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parents were living with us i it was all on me and then two years later i figured it out and i want to show you how to do it to him like rights that's next thing after that some might nonsense business coach and then after that another quote and then another failure story and that's like basically the whole feed i don't know if it's the same for you but i guess it depends on your network.you see a lot of you see especially be the new thing i just i think is again a way to game the algorithm but it's like want to text with a hook because it cuts off the rest the taxes like click on the hook and then that makes you appear more people search yeah i try to do that it's like i try to asterix stuff if i need like put more detail into it but i want as people last night i try to figure how to do it and is like zero people commented on it but i wanted to see how i really have like a stick up my ass about people getting ripped off with digital services and it really is a really funky bothers me that this industry it is very snake oil-ish i would say hey were going to get you this amana trafficker this amount of revenue for this amount of leads and there's a subject gap education gap of the staff which we try to go way overboard educating clients but man i'm about to go like wwe wrestler like just calling out the shed does that mean there's a ton of its i think it's carryover from my way back down on you guys a bit individual but like dear member have these like add rotators so gunmen advertisers would pay for impressions maddie's whole like click or not click public impression for and is the same thing now i've heard of some people using lean even wilmington pay to play where they have like a group of people they all growing up however much and then everybody, thereby suppose but like what's the point what's the endgame that's gonna get you mean i think if you have a book something that is some kind of product you can sell i don't have a final and you get i get a lot of life marketing funnel funnel for the final list that you do add here's my free e-book and then you click on it's like all upsell affiliate link to click funnels are yeah yeah if you knew how to do it all the time why are you doing it to other marketers i really see a lot of words like the coach you on how to a million cells just let me sell to you right right weren't you doing what you're supposed be doing return to tel aviv to do it and i tell clients know this stuff elliptically or from what notice to you right like type there is little real estate guys to do that like to teach and sell real estate flipping come to my seminar it's like marion holiday inn express 9 am free continental breakfast that they give them about those one down update so i try to explain everything in old-school terms to people to clients that are not tech savvy at all and i might like but were not the online world is not that original if anything it's way more repetitive than anything else in the world a copy it's like copy business whatever someone's doing overhearing a copy that do it in a different little bit different way the faster yeah i just i haven't spoken i was thing about the other nights can really test like how many people we talk to that almost everybody that comes to us has had a bad experience already and like oh yeah this sco company they promised me a lot of traffic i got nothing and i paid him 50 grand a year and it's a like a local business like a lot of money for that's a lot of money but generally company under just you messing them up like and in the shockingly bad as the clock the client that just blindly sign with these people we never get the first time around give us a blind sign when i know well send the sins of the grant here will yeah we we can do so much for directors of local business but it's one of the things were i figured centering the digital marketing world and guess you had a similar thing going on so basically what i have going on is just type them in like attitude towards a lot of that story is like a decent guy the few times we talked nebulous about you but i think the so under the law rachel my posters because i try to create authentic connections an interesting concept so you know i'm not trying to sell business coaching services to business coaches or anything like open something about time travel up there for all a good example is one of the things i'm working on now if you have told you about its just let me know what when you got here for about 50 mentors are not connected that out but concise yet that's good all but one thing working right now is trying to figure out what makes people say yes i why the people convert like if he is her conversion rate optimization so there's a lot of companies out there that can assail their formula and that's place to do this i got my start in marketing in jacksonville and that is crazy formula that was nobody's ever to remember it was i remember it but it's c equals 4m plus 3v -2 it's long i had of the variables being built just like conversion motivation to write down conversion motivation incentive friction anxiety and another company called washing wonderful to have a similar one the lift model the value proposition is is a airplane is growing your you're right your likelihood to convert but i can one called the crave methodology and so basically some sexy pain i got market marketing should be set to rise in the market in the marketing stuff you're doing should have good marketing terms like turkey burgers logo in the mm's fire so close on the name of all that is good nobody ever gets it right will everything wrong you know how to help you i don't know what held up her yeah i don't know how to read we should talk about me always a little about what i mean is indian tribes is like who knows so little white man's literal work go in the temperate temperament sticks of fire hence the fire look so end and we sit around like run a campfire, planning should out that's that's a whole brand world figure depreciated renting thanks man but the credit methodology so you've got a situation where you want somebody to say yes or to do some certain actions like your example you the postop and you want to get some feedback from written so there's each letter has elements of art is a reason what's the what's the reason that the person is in that decision-making mindset why are they only did what was the reason her motivation for being there yet understand that the next element is action and what's the action that you want them take asking them to do it so is a clear all in the v is the value proposition slight what's in it for them i'm writing this down okay i think it's fine if that's all right i was what is at work on the book but it will probably take me 12 years her head hits a fly onslow hide a lot of projects in the far right but all that is experience like everything else on linkedin's know it's is it spelled correctly formatted right stuff to catch their all for web conversion it's no it doesn't work the father but on so like what's in it what was see so see so first first of all you get those for you can have something that gets people raving about what you're doing on see is that connection so that authentic human connection that's what i say makes people crave were you doing and come back again and again i feel like that is a lot of youtube celebrities are very good at that right after making the site i don't of log is still term but there it looks like there there looking there i line is directly at the lynn's so it looks like you're talking to the persons like you have a friend right it's digital but it feels authentic yeah except i like watching tv it's different when they're talking at you but wish to look at the camera i mean i can if you want you didn't like close-ups is automatically doing it so that's good sometimes it will just hit that like that paying of me when us to yeah yeah man pretty good pot but by god you listeners break but you know the whole thing out i guess the the value in it formulated so it's a way to analyze what you're doing yeah what you're putting out there and you can visit with clients as well but how do you how you analyze like you know i give value proposition similes are hard to quantify right yeah here's a good example this is just a heuristic it's a mental shortcut for whatever you're trying to make the situation happen so let's say you're in a bar and your goal on how they were all married but was pre-college years okay all your daydreaming now they drew his time trying to serve her time traveling back in time the precollege hop if a company go to the bar and there's a young lady that you're interested in all your conversion goal is also to get her home so you can get to know her better so far first c is for consent so are you first learn to you have suffered enough from the universe and what to reason to be there to pick up on different cues like notice from initial conversation as she can look around to see what she wants to meet other people in my garden with a wall of her friends when offense of line is that exactly all that is left to shape the new how easy it is to pursue this this pickup i guess you say yeah all and in the value light what is what i think now you okay my favorite baby in a what what is she valuing it just as she introduced both new skills to finally go for me for the wrong prospect okay on experiencing a is there is orval drunk in its back in time before ever existed lower even to get home when there's a number of different things that you can analyze the situation to figure out what you need to influence to i just kind of funny ifi would try to run through a method be like that yeah in my panties that were certainly the analytical warrior like in other scenarios because i don't feel like this is out when you actually applied mcclure maybe didn't design articulated i mean it this probably is spent sitting in your craw for a while the way to you that you're looking at this right because again online is not that different from off-line i don't think it will you explaining it to us is not the same as you running through it in your head speed because you're used to doing you know i got the same thing because we have no idea what you're getting to yes i guess that's the thing is that it's heuristics are like that because you can run through quickly so it's probably largely explain in person and it is run through yeah it does it would make you feel over analytical or whatever yeah i mean we can talk about that without using the cool term heuristic but it's just like what can we do and have snapshot kind of decision-making, working on that slowly you know, get dashboards that just okay here's were at today just know the lifeblood of the company kind of stuff and that's similar kind of thing and in a way because not to tell us exactly how good we are it's good to give us, were in between the nautical beacons three premade decision sort of failure it's like yeah will in the situation we already know this is what to do sort of thing yeah the fit lessening the variables what do you see in the digital marketing universe connect what you think anything you think about augmented reality staff virtual-reality stuff what you think the next kind bigger thing will be i feel like amazon google facebook have such a stronghold over most of the internet it's really interesting to come to see the corporate consolidation of everything but well from a digital marketer standpoint what he thinks it'll be like the next, platform to conduct market either advertisers that kind of holistic marketing approach like coat craves more of that figure strategy kinda meets tactics idea of i think the i think it was all just launch there go stores yeah like yesterday's yellow line was, ironically around the block away from people don't go to the grocery store that does have is supposed to not have any lines but had a fecund my thinking yank the guard because years but nice and everything censored as you pick it up it'll john michael charge you as you walk out with amazon pay or whatever is but i guess that i see that being one of the for the big shifts that we see in marketing is how do you you go ahead have the friction moment in a transaction and how to go and set that up with a customer so it doesn't exist anymore looking that's with her after where are you going to the store you get what you want to leave you doing think about the purchase you will have that awkward buyer's remorse and so maybe you get your credit card bill it's good way to think about that or you have the talking i hate i hate the underselling i sign it i'll add mad jack audio drop buttons and find dad mad him out of the stew i bet when you're the grocery store and the like and you can't get test right there at the grocery store you checking out there like would you like to donate a dollar to kid to click pallets in life will i look i'll do it on my own because i want the tax write off i have said this before just like yeah and after the railroad job i mean i hate that light but it then you feel it should if you don't do it is not i don't do a better thing i'm over that i do my own journey by cantilever troops in my words what the fark i know you were no troops worse than that there is like some visitors restored my wife is from germany and she gets like really a quotable man is merely small talk some of the grocery store there like buying anything super you tonight you talking well you have said about my time some bad ass chocolate cakes at her no never had german chocolate cake i bet it's not a business setting from germany what i have no idea pogo asked but that seems like the sort of thing the unit implementing because if there's a german bakery in south tampa is wrong with this home but anyway so that's the key to jennings are trying to get rid of curves that whole awkward because that's part of the experience part of the crate methodology it's it's those moments where it's like you have and you have the likelihood to turn around and say i want to do this i will like if you're a person a client were there some way that you can just make it where they don't have to sign the paperwork and sounded online, that's always an excuse but there's there's new digital ways to to get around that light mover for example like they set it up at the beginning and after that you just the cx line experience customer trip on experience yeah we think about that a lot but at the same time art are big thing as i see it going forward his transparencies in this industry can happen i think a lot more especially with pricing like it's wild west out there that's that's part of the reason people can get ripped off all the time because they don't know how much stuff cost and should cost german chocolate cake was made by samuel german and american i went there to determine bakeries right all adults start backtracking now i totally called it the way you look at every meal german chocolate cake the guys name was samuel german was determined doesn't matter so much american chocolate maker but you know alex guys back me up okay folks from the united states he found on reddit drink on wikipedia yeah you read it it's like the national archive i found a fortune which i know that i must've i don't know maybe you were there already and and maybe maybe the way to get that fourth dimension is love for talking just to bring in interstellar chicken scotch interstellar the cake i digital marketing wise i feel like transparency is getting to more more to me morally i feel like it's kind of our duty to really even though reply lose a lot now you know in the early stages of this firm but i feel like long-term debt that will pay dividends and buy trust a lot of people mi things like i can't sleep before ripping someone off to anything but i feel like a lot of people dislike batson 1790 does it yeah is a big deal for the business but w is a good point i think it's even like thinking of surveys conversion rate optimization company that's a relatively new digital marketing field but a lot of them though approach big corporations mostly well we can run a test and get you a lift can we just had 10% of that lives because that's you know it's pretty transparent there's a deal but let's say they get an extra million dollars that would've been there there's a new 10% of a big chunk of change that's that's a sliding scale tombs based on performance on the think performance-based results are to be a lot bigger in the future site as they should be should been all along i think standardization of terms these happen somehow that that's the hardest part of communicating all the stuff like what is a conversion meeting so like some people don't understand like knowing your lead though someone filling out a form as a lead that your conversion that i yeah but we didn't didn't give us any money that i know that's not the main objective for you as a service business for marketing people on my email so it's that it's tough it's tough because i talked a lot of people go how much you how much does it lead cost you and the like no other idea like i have an interesting marketing like it in so i will go crazy when dad show you my totem pole kind of idea how to look at all.i finished this this yet it's pretty it's it's all up in this this five had fallen under the san antonio whole maybe to do a better job of explaining that i did my craig wrote now that is way more convoluted again located yes pants off every time as well that i get sweaty sweat equity yet the legs will blank you were that all the powers from right so you know i get really hot and like little feverish and then i have to close off so that's what happens anything else dana point people to anything i forgot to bring up all of them you can follow along with the time trouble stuff it time travelers.org right now is that my passion project try to learn audiences because like i don't know anything about doctor who leslie one of the biggest groups so this like sunday in tampa florida thursday tom ward fist so volunteered with i just want to check this world out did you gotta come back on my next month yet i want to hear about like you have an open invite by the way my legs were down the street to cool this is the show's messy pragmatic business advice a lot of it is digital marketing stuff to do because a lot of people if they're doing their side passion thing you know i make in an antique store that they need advice in that direction so next to me, me will will do like a mailbag or some butter but yeah i mean i want to hear the progression of this truth i know the last thing i want to ask about is a facebook group so we we need to do it for our sweat equity page because i think that be a good area to drum up discussion and if you invite people they automatically get added right so there will be careful of what why that one is the one you want to make a lot of people how we talk about the christmas party is yeah i mean by now through all my friends on their been doing comedy for 12 years promoting shows and stuff i think they know i'm kind of a horror with all the stuff but at the same time i.e. was it the other people that are like i know you're doing it that you like i feel like this is all i post about anything so it's tough but another the group is absolutely the way to go because everybody is a page of yeah i don't know if you saw the recent news and digital facebook it is much making it almost impossible to reach your audience through your page without paying for the post so groups is going the last holdout that's where everybody's got them migrating their strategies but they've already doubled back on that according to iphone cat how i don't if you see her she's like a facebook advertiser it she's a good person to follow because shall give an update every week of the stuff that's going on so it's like a i like it she could for me to come to know what what's going on already know how to do a lot of that advertising but you know what that something changes everything is but i usually don't have people with a huge following anyway so we usually have people that have a small following we go ads like crazy but the groups it creates engagement what have you seen out of it because some of the ones in there really trying to sell you something sneak them in their now let's let me that's the whole experience part two you you have to have interesting topics that your people in that community are in the audience are interested in and you can't just say oh way i could easily with those 20,000 people say about his t-shirt about time travel every third poster something but like that's cannot alienate people and eventually is going to kill the engagement from the group yeah i think you're seeing the whole movement of like like good content is habitat for your blog or social outlets all that stuff always goes back to the content every time you just try to try to do don't try to game the system that's what this can i see a guy strategy is the size of a marketing company mounted the consulting back in the day all and articles golden rule marketing do onto others as you 72 years and that's something that's a good rule about i agree i think we'll see more kind of a meeting to get to net neutrality which i kind wanted to but will do it another time we've been we've been shoving it off for months why fight it, it's not, it's going away what i meant yeah what is it me talk about it a little bit but what are you got you got a ball, but we got some other work to do things coming on and i we went to church and how we can both teachers in our get-together targeting is one okay running to be what about the people listening they were to pay for so were so one of the parties work on is the one time travelers.org were to be launching a online time trouble museums or interstellar billing to all the things we talked about will have a breakdown but also store speak about the impress your friends with your knowledge and you do rent double unity big cartel not they were working to do is probably to start our lives was a cold printable or think yeah this way it's basically an order it'll dropship it in the print windows just don't get the hands pvt please do not always go straight alternative apparel yeah yeah you nice that's it yeah i only reason i wear the shirts write every day of my life american apparel center seven of them some good i think for, no man and you know i can't wait defection time travel i'm excited she can can i just have to maybe earned it so i suit you did there did they really get into that more is you did do a more fun

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like copy business whatever someone's doing overhearing a copy that do it in a different little bit different way the faster yeah i just i haven't spoken i was thing about the other nights can really test like how many people we talk to that almost everybody that comes to us has had a bad experience already and like oh yeah this sco company they promised me a lot of traffic i got nothing and i paid him 50 grand a year and it's a like a local business like a lot of money for that's a lot of money but generally company under just you messing them up like and in the shockingly bad as the clock the client that just blindly sign with these people we never get the first time around give us a blind sign when i know well send the sins of the grant here will yeah we we can do so much for directors of local business but it's one of the things were i figured centering the digital marketing world and guess you had a similar thing going on so basically what i have going on is just type them in like attitude towards a lot of that story is like a decent guy the few times we talked nebulous about you but i think the so under the law rachel my posters because i try to create authentic connections an interesting concept so you know i'm not trying to sell business coaching services to business coaches or anything like open something about time travel up there for all a good example is one of the things i'm working on now if you have told you about its just let me know what when you got here for about 50 mentors are not connected that out but concise yet that's good all but one thing working right now is trying to figure out what makes people say yes i why the people convert like if he is her conversion rate optimization so there's a lot of companies out there that can assail their formula and that's place to do this i got my start in marketing in jacksonville and that is crazy formula that was nobody's ever to remember it was i remember it but it's c equals 4m plus 3v -2 it's long i 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conversation as she can look around to see what she wants to meet other people in my garden with a wall of her friends when offense of line is that exactly all that is left to shape the new how easy it is to pursue this this pickup i guess you say yeah all and in the value light what is what i think now you okay my favorite baby in a what what is she valuing it just as she introduced both new skills to finally go for me for the wrong prospect okay on experiencing a is there is orval drunk in its back in time before ever existed lower even to get home when there's a number of different things that you can analyze the situation to figure out what you need to influence to i just kind of funny ifi would try to run through a method be like that yeah in my panties that were certainly the analytical warrior like in other scenarios because i don't feel like this is out when you actually applied mcclure maybe didn't design articulated i mean it this probably is spent sitting in your craw for a while the way to you that you're looking at this right because again online is not that different from off-line i don't think it will you explaining it to us is not the same as you running through it in your head speed because you're used to doing you know i got the same thing because we have no idea what you're getting to yes i guess that's the thing is that it's heuristics are like that because you can run through quickly so it's probably largely explain in person and it is run through yeah it does it would make you feel over analytical or whatever yeah i mean we can talk about that without using the cool term heuristic but it's just like what can we do and have snapshot kind of decision-making, working on that slowly you know, get dashboards that just okay here's were at today just know the lifeblood of the company kind of stuff and that's similar kind of thing and in a way because not to tell us exactly how good we are it's good to give us, were in between the nautical beacons three premade decision sort of failure it's like yeah will in the situation we already know this is what to do sort of thing yeah the fit lessening the variables what do you see in the digital marketing universe connect what you think anything you think about augmented reality staff virtual-reality stuff what you think the next kind bigger thing will be i feel like amazon google facebook have such a stronghold over most of the internet it's really interesting to come to see the corporate consolidation of everything but well from a digital marketer standpoint what he thinks it'll be like the next, platform to conduct market either advertisers that kind of holistic marketing approach like coat craves more of that figure strategy kinda meets tactics idea of i think the i think it was all just launch there go stores yeah like yesterday's yellow line was, ironically around the block away from people don't go to the grocery store that does have is supposed to not have any lines but had a 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i look i'll do it on my own because i want the tax write off i have said this before just like yeah and after the railroad job i mean i hate that light but it then you feel it should if you don't do it is not i don't do a better thing i'm over that i do my own journey by cantilever troops in my words what the fark i know you were no troops worse than that there is like some visitors restored my wife is from germany and she gets like really a quotable man is merely small talk some of the grocery store there like buying anything super you tonight you talking well you have said about my time some bad ass chocolate cakes at her no never had german chocolate cake i bet it's not a business setting from germany what i have no idea pogo asked but that seems like the sort of thing the unit implementing because if there's a german bakery in south tampa is wrong with this home but anyway so that's the key to jennings are trying to get rid of curves that whole awkward because that's part of the experience part of the crate methodology it's it's those moments where it's like you have and you have the likelihood to turn around and say i want to do this i will like if you're a person a client were there some way that you can just make it where they don't have to sign the paperwork and sounded online, that's always an excuse but there's there's new digital ways to to get around that light mover for example like they set it up at the beginning and after that you just the cx line experience customer trip on experience yeah we think about that a lot but at the same time art are big thing as i see it going forward his transparencies in this industry can happen i think a lot more especially with pricing like it's wild west out there that's that's part of the reason people can get ripped off all the time because they don't know how much stuff cost and should cost german chocolate cake was made by samuel german and american i went there to determine bakeries right all adults start backtracking now i totally called it the way you look at every meal german chocolate cake the guys name was samuel german was determined doesn't matter so much american chocolate maker but you know alex guys back me up okay folks from the united states he found on reddit drink on wikipedia yeah you read it it's like the national archive i found a fortune which i know that i must've i don't know maybe you were there already and and maybe maybe the way to get that fourth dimension is love for talking just to bring in interstellar chicken scotch interstellar the cake i digital marketing wise i feel like transparency is getting to more more to me morally i feel like it's kind of our duty to really even though reply lose a lot now you know in the early stages of this firm but i feel like long-term debt that will pay dividends and buy trust a lot of people mi things like i can't sleep before ripping someone off to anything but i feel like a lot of people dislike batson 1790 does it yeah is a big deal for the business but w is a good point i think it's even like thinking of surveys conversion rate optimization company that's a relatively new digital marketing field but a lot of them though approach big corporations mostly well we can run a test and get you a lift can we just had 10% of that lives because that's you know it's pretty transparent there's a deal but let's say they get an extra million dollars that would've been there there's a new 10% of a big chunk of change that's that's a sliding scale tombs based on performance on the think performance-based results are to be a lot bigger in the future site as they should be should been all along i think standardization of terms these happen somehow that that's the hardest part of communicating all the stuff like what is a conversion meeting so like some people don't understand like knowing your lead though someone filling out a form as a lead that your conversion that i yeah but we didn't didn't give us any money that i know that's not the main objective for you as a service business for marketing people on my email so it's that it's tough it's tough because i talked a lot of people go how much you how much does it lead cost you and the like no other idea like i have an interesting marketing like it in so i will go crazy when dad show you my totem pole kind of idea how to look at all.i finished this this yet it's pretty it's it's all up in this this five had fallen under the san antonio whole maybe to do a better job of explaining that i did my craig wrote now that is way more convoluted again located yes pants off every time as well that i get sweaty sweat equity yet the legs will blank you were that all the powers from right so you know i get really hot and like little feverish and then i have to close off so that's what happens anything else dana point people to anything i forgot to bring up all of them you can follow along with the time trouble stuff it time travelers.org right now is that my passion project try to learn audiences because like i don't know anything about doctor who leslie one of the biggest groups so this like sunday in tampa florida thursday tom ward fist so volunteered with i just want to check this world out did you gotta come back on my next month yet i want to hear about like you have an open invite by the way my legs were down the street to cool this is the show's messy pragmatic business advice a lot of it is digital marketing stuff to do because a lot of people if they're doing their side passion thing you know i make in an antique store that they need advice in that direction so next to me, me will will do like a mailbag or some butter but yeah i mean i want to hear the progression of this truth i know the last thing i want to ask about is a facebook group so we we need to do it for our sweat equity page because i think that be a good area to drum up discussion and if you invite people they automatically get added right so there will be careful of what why that one is the one you want to make a lot of people how we talk about the christmas party is yeah i mean by now through all my friends on their been doing comedy for 12 years promoting shows and stuff i think they know i'm kind of a horror with all the stuff but at the same time i.e. was it the other people that are like i know you're doing it that you like i feel like this is all i post about anything so it's tough but another the group is absolutely the way to go because everybody is a page of yeah i don't know if you saw the recent news and digital facebook it is much making it almost impossible to reach your audience through your page without paying for the post so groups is going the last holdout that's where everybody's got them migrating their strategies but they've already doubled back on that according to iphone cat how i don't if you see her she's like a facebook advertiser it she's a good person to follow because shall give an update every week of the stuff that's going on so it's like a i like it she could for me to come to know what what's going on already know how to do a lot of that advertising but you know what that something changes everything is but i usually don't have people with a huge following anyway so we usually have people that have a small following we go ads like crazy but the groups it creates engagement what have you seen out of it because some of the ones in there really trying to sell you something sneak them in their now let's let me that's the whole experience part two you you have to have interesting topics that your people in that community are in the audience are interested in and you can't just say oh way i could easily with those 20,000 people say about his t-shirt about time travel every third poster something but like that's cannot alienate people and eventually is going to kill the engagement from the group yeah i think you're seeing the whole movement of like like good content is habitat for your blog or social outlets all that stuff always goes back to the content every time you just try to try to do don't try to game the system that's what this can i see a guy strategy is the size of a marketing company mounted the consulting back in the day all and articles golden rule marketing do onto others as you 72 years and that's something that's a good rule about i agree i think we'll see more kind of a meeting to get to net neutrality which i kind wanted to but will do it another time we've been we've been shoving it off for months why fight it, it's not, it's going away what i meant yeah what is it me talk about it a little bit but what are you got you got a ball, but we got some other work to do things coming on and i we went to church and how we can both teachers in our get-together targeting is one okay running to be what about the people listening they were to pay for so were so one of the parties work on is the one time travelers.org were to be launching a online time trouble museums or interstellar billing to all the things we talked about will have a breakdown but also store speak about the impress your friends with your knowledge and you do rent double unity big cartel not they were working to do is probably to start our lives was a cold printable or think yeah this way it's basically an order it'll dropship it in the print windows just don't get the hands pvt please do not always go straight alternative apparel yeah yeah you nice that's it yeah i only reason i wear the shirts write every day of my life american apparel center seven of them some good i think for, no man and you know i can't wait defection time travel i'm excited she can can i just have to maybe earned it so i suit you did there did they really get into that more is you did do a more fun

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marketing funnel funnel for the final list that you do add here's my free e-book and then you click on it's like all upsell affiliate link to click funnels are yeah yeah if you knew how to do it all the time why are you doing it to other marketers i really see a lot of words like the coach you on how to a million cells just let me sell to you right right weren't you doing what you're supposed be doing return to tel aviv to do it and i tell clients know this stuff elliptically or from what notice to you right like type there is little real estate guys to do that like to teach and sell real estate flipping come to my seminar it's like marion holiday inn express 9 am free continental breakfast that they give them about those one down update so i try to explain everything in old-school terms to people to clients that are not tech savvy at all and i might like but were not the online world is not that original if anything it's way more repetitive than anything else in the world a copy it's like copy business whatever someone's doing overhearing a copy that do it in a different little bit different way the faster yeah i just i haven't spoken i was thing about the other nights can really test like how many people we talk to that almost everybody that comes to us has had a bad experience already and like oh yeah this sco company they promised me a lot of traffic i got nothing and i paid him 50 grand a year and it's a like a local business like a lot of money for that's a lot of money but generally company under just you messing them up like and in the shockingly bad as the clock the client that just blindly sign with these people we never get the first time around give us a blind sign when i know well send the sins of the grant here will yeah we we can do so much for directors of local business but it's one of the things were i figured centering the digital marketing world and guess you had a similar thing going on so basically what i have going on is just type them in like attitude towards a lot of that story is like a decent guy the few times we talked nebulous about you but i think the so under the law rachel my posters because i try to create authentic connections an interesting concept so you know i'm not trying to sell business coaching services to business coaches or anything like open something about time travel up there for all a good example is one of the things i'm working on now if you have told you about its just let me know what when you got here for about 50 mentors are not connected that out but concise yet that's good all but one thing working right now is trying to figure out what makes people say yes i why the people convert like if he is her conversion rate optimization so there's a lot of companies out there that can assail their formula and that's place to do this i got my start in marketing in jacksonville and that is crazy formula that was nobody's ever to remember it was i remember it but it's c equals 4m plus 3v -2 it's long i had of the variables being built just like conversion motivation to write down conversion motivation incentive friction anxiety and another company called washing wonderful to have a similar one the lift model the value proposition is is a airplane is growing your you're right your likelihood to convert but i can one called the crave methodology and so basically some sexy pain i got market marketing should be set to rise in the market in the marketing stuff you're doing should have good marketing terms like turkey burgers logo in the mm's fire so close on the name of all that is good nobody ever gets it right will everything wrong you know how to help you i don't know what held up her yeah i don't know how to read we should talk about me always a little about what i mean is indian tribes is like who knows so little white man's literal work go in the temperate temperament sticks of fire hence the fire look so end and we sit around like run a campfire, planning should out that's that's a whole brand world figure depreciated renting thanks man but the credit methodology so you've got a situation where you want somebody to say yes or to do some certain actions like your example you the postop and you want to get some feedback from written so there's each letter has elements of art is a reason what's the what's the reason that the person is in that decision-making mindset why are they only did what was the reason her motivation for being there yet understand that the next element is action and what's the action that you want them take asking them to do it so is a clear all in the v is the value proposition slight what's in it for them i'm writing this down okay i think it's fine if that's all right i was what is at work on the book but it will probably take me 12 years her head hits a fly onslow hide a lot of projects in the far right but all that is experience like everything else on linkedin's know it's is it spelled correctly formatted right stuff to catch their all for web conversion it's no it doesn't work the father but on so like what's in it what was see so see so first first of all you get those for you can have something that gets people raving about what you're doing on see is that connection so that authentic human connection that's what i say makes people crave were you doing and come back again and again i feel like that is a lot of youtube celebrities are very good at that right after making the site i don't of log is still term but there it looks like there there looking there i line is directly at the lynn's so it looks like you're talking to the persons like you have a friend right it's digital but it feels authentic yeah except i like watching tv it's different when they're talking at you but wish to look at the camera i mean i can if you want you didn't like close-ups is automatically doing it so that's good sometimes it will just hit that like that paying of me when us to yeah yeah man pretty good pot but by god you listeners break but you know the whole thing out i guess the the value in it formulated so it's a way to analyze what you're doing yeah what you're putting out there and you can visit with clients as well but how do you how you analyze like you know i give value proposition similes are hard to quantify right yeah here's a good example this is just a heuristic it's a mental shortcut for whatever you're trying to make the situation happen so let's say you're in a bar and your goal on how they were all married but was pre-college years okay all your daydreaming now they drew his time trying to serve her time traveling back in time the precollege hop if a company go to the bar and there's a young lady that you're interested in all your conversion goal is also to get her home so you can get to know her better so far first c is for consent so are you first learn to you have suffered enough from the universe and what to reason to be there to pick up on different cues like notice from initial conversation as she can look around to see what she wants to meet other people in my garden with a wall of her friends when offense of line is that exactly all that is left to shape the new how easy it is to pursue this this pickup i guess you say yeah all and in the value light what is what i think now you okay my favorite baby in a what what is she valuing it just as she introduced both new skills to finally go for me for the wrong prospect okay on experiencing a is there is orval drunk in its back in time before ever existed lower even to get home when there's a number of different things that you can analyze the situation to figure out what you need to influence to i just kind of funny ifi would try to run through a method be like that yeah in my panties that were certainly the analytical warrior like in other scenarios because i don't feel like this is out when you actually applied mcclure maybe didn't design articulated i mean it this probably is spent sitting in your craw for a while the way to you that you're looking at this right because again online is not that different from off-line i don't think it will you explaining it to us is not the same as you running through it in your head speed because you're used to doing you know i got the same thing because we have no idea what you're getting to yes i guess that's the thing is that it's heuristics are like that because you can run through quickly so it's probably largely explain in person and it is run through yeah it does it would make you feel over analytical or whatever yeah i mean we can talk about that without using the cool term heuristic but it's just like what can we do and have snapshot kind of decision-making, working on that slowly you know, get dashboards that just okay here's were at today just know the lifeblood of the company kind of stuff and that's similar kind of thing and in a way because not to tell us exactly how good we are it's good to give us, were in between the nautical beacons three premade decision sort of failure it's like yeah will in the situation we already know this is what to do sort of thing yeah the fit lessening the variables what do you see in the digital marketing universe connect what you think anything you think about augmented reality staff virtual-reality stuff what you think the next kind bigger thing will be i feel like amazon google facebook have such a stronghold over most of the internet it's really interesting to come to see the corporate consolidation of everything but well from a digital marketer standpoint what he thinks it'll be like the next, platform to conduct market either advertisers that kind of holistic marketing approach like coat craves more of that figure strategy kinda meets tactics idea of i think the i think it was all just launch there go stores yeah like yesterday's yellow line was, ironically around the block away from people don't go to the grocery store that does have is supposed to not have any lines but had a fecund my thinking yank the guard because years but nice and everything censored as you pick it up it'll john michael charge you as you walk out with amazon pay or whatever is but i guess that i see that being one of the for the big shifts that we see in marketing is how do you you go ahead have the friction moment in a transaction and how to go and set that up with a customer so it doesn't exist anymore looking that's with her after where are you going to the store you get what you want to leave you doing think about the purchase you will have that awkward buyer's remorse and so maybe you get your credit card bill it's good way to think about that or you have the talking i hate i hate the underselling i sign it i'll add mad jack audio drop buttons and find dad mad him out of the stew i bet when you're the grocery store and the like and you can't get test right there at the grocery store you checking out there like would you like to donate a dollar to kid to click pallets in life will i look i'll do it on my own because i want the tax write off i have said this before just like yeah and after the railroad job i mean i hate that light but it then you feel it should if you don't do it is not i don't do a better thing i'm over that i do my own journey by cantilever troops in my words what the fark i know you were no troops worse than that there is like some visitors restored my wife is from germany and she gets like really a quotable man is merely small talk some of the grocery store there like buying anything super you tonight you talking well you have said about my time some bad ass chocolate cakes at her no never had german chocolate cake i bet it's not a business setting from germany what i have no idea pogo asked but that seems like the sort of thing the unit implementing because if there's a german bakery in south tampa is wrong with this home but anyway so that's the key to jennings are trying to get rid of curves that whole awkward because that's part of the experience part of the crate methodology it's it's those moments where it's like you have and you have the likelihood to turn around and say i want to do this i will like if you're a person a client were there some way that you can just make it where they don't have to sign the paperwork and sounded online, that's always an excuse but there's there's new digital ways to to get around that light mover for example like they set it up at the beginning and after that you just the cx line experience customer trip on experience yeah we think about that a lot but at the same time art are big thing as i see it going forward his transparencies in this industry can happen i think a lot more especially with pricing like it's wild west out there that's that's part of the reason people can get ripped off all the time because they don't know how much stuff cost and should cost german chocolate cake was made by samuel german and american i went there to determine bakeries right all adults start backtracking now i totally called it the way you look at every meal german chocolate cake the guys name was samuel german was determined doesn't matter so much american chocolate maker but you know alex guys back me up okay folks from the united states he found on reddit drink on wikipedia yeah you read it it's like the national archive i found a fortune which i know that i must've i don't know maybe you were there already and and maybe maybe the way to get that fourth dimension is love for talking just to bring in interstellar chicken scotch interstellar the cake i digital marketing wise i feel like transparency is getting to more more to me morally i feel like it's kind of our duty to really even though reply lose a lot now you know in the early stages of this firm but i feel like long-term debt that will pay dividends and buy trust a lot of people mi things like i can't sleep before ripping someone off to anything but i feel like a lot of people dislike batson 1790 does it yeah is a big deal for the business but w is a good point i think it's even like thinking of surveys conversion rate optimization company that's a relatively new digital marketing field but a lot of them though approach big corporations mostly well we can run a test and get you a lift can we just had 10% of that lives because that's you know it's pretty transparent there's a deal but let's say they get an extra million dollars that would've been there there's a new 10% of a big chunk of change that's that's a sliding scale tombs based on performance on the think performance-based results are to be a lot bigger in the future site as they should be should been all along i think standardization of terms these happen somehow that that's the hardest part of communicating all the stuff like what is a conversion meeting so like some people don't understand like knowing your lead though someone filling out a form as a lead that your conversion that i yeah but we didn't didn't give us any money that i know that's not the main objective for you as a service business for marketing people on my email so it's that it's tough it's tough because i talked a lot of people go how much you how much does it lead cost you and the like no other idea like i have an interesting marketing like it in so i will go crazy when dad show you my totem pole kind of idea how to look at all.i finished this this yet it's pretty it's it's all up in this this five had fallen under the san antonio whole maybe to do a better job of explaining that i did my craig wrote now that is way more convoluted again located yes pants off every time as well that i get sweaty sweat equity yet the legs will blank you were that all the powers from right so you know i get really hot and like little feverish and then i have to close off so that's what happens anything else dana point people to anything i forgot to bring up all of them you can follow along with the time trouble stuff it time travelers.org right now is that my passion project try to learn audiences because like i don't know anything about doctor who leslie one of the biggest groups so this like sunday in tampa florida thursday tom ward fist so volunteered with i just want to check this world out did you gotta come back on my next month yet i want to hear about like you have an open invite by the way my legs were down the street to cool this is the show's messy pragmatic business advice a lot of it is digital marketing stuff to do because a lot of people if they're doing their side passion thing you know i make in an antique store that they need advice in that direction so next to me, me will will do like a mailbag or some butter but yeah i mean i want to hear the progression of this truth i know the last thing i want to ask about is a facebook group so we we need to do it for our sweat equity page because i think that be a good area to drum up discussion and if you invite people they automatically get added right so there will be careful of what why that one is the one you want to make a lot of people how we talk about the christmas party is yeah i mean by now through all my friends on their been doing comedy for 12 years promoting shows and stuff i think they know i'm kind of a horror with all the stuff but at the same time i.e. was it the other people that are like i know you're doing it that you like i feel like this is all i post about anything so it's tough but another the group is absolutely the way to go because everybody is a page of yeah i don't know if you saw the recent news and digital facebook it is much making it almost impossible to reach your audience through your page without paying for the post so groups is going the last holdout that's where everybody's got them migrating their strategies but they've already doubled back on that according to iphone cat how i don't if you see her she's like a facebook advertiser it she's a good person to follow because shall give an update every week of the stuff that's going on so it's like a i like it she could for me to come to know what what's going on already know how to do a lot of that advertising but you know what that something changes everything is but i usually don't have people with a huge following anyway so we usually have people that have a small following we go ads like crazy but the groups it creates engagement what have you seen out of it because some of the ones in there really trying to sell you something sneak them in their now let's let me that's the whole experience part two you you have to have interesting topics that your people in that community are in the audience are interested in and you can't just say oh way i could easily with those 20,000 people say about his t-shirt about time travel every third poster something but like that's cannot alienate people and eventually is going to kill the engagement from the group yeah i think you're seeing the whole movement of like like good content is habitat for your blog or social outlets all that stuff always goes back to the content every time you just try to try to do don't try to game the system that's what this can i see a guy strategy is the size of a marketing company mounted the consulting back in the day all and articles golden rule marketing do onto others as you 72 years and that's something that's a good rule about i agree i think we'll see more kind of a meeting to get to net neutrality which i kind wanted to but will do it another time we've been we've been shoving it off for months why fight it, it's not, it's going away what i meant yeah what is it me talk about it a little bit but what are you got you got a ball, but we got some other work to do things coming on and i we went to church and how we can both teachers in our get-together targeting is one okay running to be what about the people listening they were to pay for so were so one of the parties work on is the one time travelers.org were to be launching a online time trouble museums or interstellar billing to all the things we talked about will have a breakdown but also store speak about the impress your friends with your knowledge and you do rent double unity big cartel not they were working to do is probably to start our lives was a cold printable or think yeah this way it's basically an order it'll dropship it in the print windows just don't get the hands pvt please do not always go straight alternative apparel yeah yeah you nice that's it yeah i only reason i wear the shirts write every day of my life american apparel center seven of them some good i think for, no man and you know i can't wait defection time travel i'm excited she can can i just have to maybe earned it so i suit you did there did they really get into that more is you did do a more fun

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I'm here with Julie monkey representing all the graphics and video people out there are animations and zones of what we have our new intern Jordan from destitute of Tampa who is switching today for Salerno Jordan he is not you might not say much to say hi hi there apology and advance the switching of very new interface me but it's going well yeah don't worry about it just just make sure when people are watching that they want to barf switch a lot as fast as you go yeah yeah probably won't hear much from him the rest of the episode as we do give them but they didn't want to really build these off-camera he's having a bad hair day yeah he's well you know it's not our splitting is you said that walking in right oh well I heard it on this and I'm saying is that you're not a good hair day that thing is just backwards perfectly yet looks like it's like bed had made it site made to be messy can I think you know what people listen to podcasts love is talking about stuff the cancer well sorry about this, accountable what we were were not just a really nice really give it varies or why I'm really good a given description I can give a very descriptive please use your words were podcast in streaming show I want to make that declaration right now we were both its word and most podcasts are gonna be doing that to you know all the big got all the big dogs got have video at some point that's true that's an that I actually have time to listen to a video podcast and listen to in my car so I could make Lance down and see something but I'm really listening to it more than it right right so what you turn on a video podcast and then just listen to the audio while there are some of my pockets are only on like YouTube video so I don't really gotcha I guess accent didn't have that party your podcast working to get you on audio soon yes we are its embryos it will start recording the audio to that we have so many is it said that a video production company that has all the bells and whistles doesn't extract the audio from behind It was tough Type that's can be Jordan's job mean it's super easy but it's like how many administrative things can you do at some point you gotta have someone qualify the Jordan to help out with that it is super it if you need to know how to do it you can download anything you do on Facebook live or YouTube live streaming you can re-download that video let people don't know that and then if you have a Mac going quick quick time file export audio pitch there you go that's all I do because the audio that comes through our lifestream it's all mixed already zones are it's all good yeah it no one knows anybody is not that are you'll have have super high quality audio well I don't know we've I've I've gotten somehow apparently I was popping he told me to stop and will be a hassle telecast place the lemminglike audio nerds will tell you there very sensitive about that right but most people are not audio nerds third even okay with a pop every once in think about it like we do yeah yeah but when it when it especially start mixing video video and audio is very important we have people that sound like an empty room evolves and if I started something like this hey so our habit I was a writer on this podcast yeah so what will like that it will reduce really do many podcast and I'm gonna throw it out there without talking to Eric about it first shuffled to another will do another mini one early next week to kinda Joel make it kind of a full our of sorts just because were pressed for time today but I want to go for contracts is if you like a talk to a lot of freelancers and a lot of agencies a lot of firms about this and I want to give the advice straight that I got after going through a suit with the client at one point couple years ago and it's it's pretty easy to follow but it again administratively this is a lasting want to do in the business development process is really worry about your contract usually get started if your small business or if you're doing your side thing or you know you don't want to have to double back and be like that's that actually the part that takes me out of flight the energy of like getting it going you know my gosh I got a right three today that's I guess that's where this kind was bubbling in my head anyway and so when you have your contract a don't get your friend that's an attorney that does real estate to do your contracts it will get them to do a template for you get a business attorney people think attorneys are just you're an attorney you can do everything and if so specified especially now might be the most specified learning of medical field probably the second-most great segment of what they're even batlike. Bill knows more medicines like are you cold is your lymph node so they know the questions asked Dr. usually attorneys they said I don't want to know what you have business attorneys you know even business attorneys some are good and employment and some are good at mergers and acquisitions you really need to con a Nero that feel down to like who's done a lot of start ups or who's done a lot of small businesses were you kinda doing your own thing what provisions can they help you put in there so you don't get screwed so like if your graphic designer my heart goes out to the good graphic designers out there you got a lot of animators and stuff because what happens is they end up now it's tough because a lot of them are flakes to but they end up getting screwed a lot because design a by client is never recognized for what it should be and then be like design is tough original design is really tough but like there's a lot of iterations that happen behind the scenes the client is know about and I feel like there's a lot you always need to declare all right were making a logo there's three rounds each round has the first run has five concepts and then we whittled down each time you hear that days we meet for these notes I need feedback from you so the way we do like a logo design is a go three rounds five concepts six concepts whatever and in between each round we give a little bit of breath so let's call it six weeks which is still pretty quick Chris would like that but like books when I round one on this on the to show you the we shown in person or via video because unless your instant reaction round two and three healthcare because of we just need feedback and then on I'll give you three days to give me more notes because I want you, digest it but on that third day we show you on Monday on Thursday you have to get us feedback if you want it if you want to submit feedback you have to be the strict about her osteophyte right right yeah well I mean your movies go as is even tighter it's the same thing to me whether with the design as design iterations or iterations and feedback is the one in the things that can slow down the project to a crawl especially when you're in the creative state whether you're doing a character design or you're doing a costume design or doing a logo design when you're trying to basically I must take the words that you tell me turn that into an image of some sort and give you that image and then take more words if you tell me and and convert that into an image again were really basically trying to read minds and figure out that image that that perfect image that's in your head and even that that the ideas that no not every client comes and sit with the perfect image most clients with the table the concept and then they basically by either by a committee of one or committee of many try to decide does this feel right at this look right where are we getting the right response from this particular image logo in this case and if that's the case what's our feedback but that feedback takes if you guys are making a decision and that decision takes three weeks to come to a conclusion the NUI case so I know this project left with only four weeks it took us three weeks to make a decision on this one round crystal get in time for the fourth week that then become is a problem it's like translating I was going to say a link from a whole other language with like doing it to in one language and then another one because like the law says you want to see somebody's visceral reaction then your reading their body language then you gotta process all that on your end you know you're getting feedback there and most the time people we've done podcasts about this words like they really don't know what they want they just know what they don't want annexes like was like get that's good because also say there's three episodes we try to keep these podcast episodes a little bit evergreen I might have a hacking reference to like Sica or something you know so if there little old like that that's why but open music of the will and maybe heads yeah sprinkle only at night it had thought that was going what if I make a reference that stated like Anthony Weiner for some like that you know it's yet that started that out throw that out we try to meet the vice is you know is good for a couple years as we can make it and or Evergreen or whatever you want to call it so go back if you want to search and sweat equity's episodes for Steve and Teddy use our power business attorney he we break down the basics of getting the legal going and I go through every dumb question you house you don't have to ask your guy or gal the other one is how to get creative notes back which is my lease everything I try not to lose my ship is when I click free of notes that I just don't give me something I don't like that yeah just to say I want to go back and listen how angry we were where doing this when I want to have you gotten this note better right. So then I go what's better is it that the shape is it the 2D or 3D version of this is a the color or what screen are you looking at dishonoring on your phone or just better than last yet so I keep going I keep digging like an attorney, does it just keep going okay so what were how are you looking at what kind of just Opry on right now is the retina screen like mine or is it kind of the old school Dell what are you working on it's it's a computer so what kind of computer we working with I think it's a PC PC alright so we talking gateway from the 90s shall throw in a little shady joke like that so that gets their year like oh I didn't know the Roebling today but okay again and propped up on time I got you it's yes and if you want me to take over for the better questions while there is a well known the masque of this question my company gave it to me by the waves I can see your screen because we have the technology to be able to track that so yeah yeah if you want to look at boomerang for your emails to track if people open your emails that's a little helpful advice right there if you're sending contract via email which I don't recommend I did send them via doc you sign or some other cloud-based service like that it's worth it because it will send them a copy immediately after done on that ship but we use boomerang from Gmail so if if you guys want some to go it is Fokker actually open his email up it's like 15 bucks a month you can track the idea of it was starting with if they don't open or you can have a drop down if they don't open reply click or something else we actually read it it'll figure out if they read the email it will boomerang it back to them as a new email whatever today's whatever you want nice suits we actually save you a lot of time and if were efficient you break out doing your emails like throughout the day but you only send him they only go out is that the end of the day her stomach that don't ask this because in for a long time I was the only point of contact for my business and my clients is my clients is when clients – which I did you ever like your machine did you ever find yourself in a position where you're sending out a contract Eric and that you are like momentum built such a great relationship with this person I was the person who introduced him I got them all light wet and ready and now got hit with the legal document does that ever find your fine hesitation how to get past the barricade of crap I gotta get real with these people will so what were doing now law does all that Tillich that this part of that that I'm glad that I don't want to deal with that sort of thing because it is like no matter what the lawyers involved people just get weirdly getting tightened up if you don't know that person's like little man was that mean what is it me for later they train early recording you are now like what that sort of thing so I personally haven't had a lot of at least in this business was doing videographer you know I would get into the contracts and stuff little bit but that was all basically copy and pasted standard videography contract that I never bothered will, I mean I looked at it you know to make sure wasn't saying that we set ourselves on fire at the end of the night or something weird but you know it I never had a problem with it if the deal done sending a contract out I mean that's all the paperwork people usually build yet mutant and no one wants to really get lawyers involved I try to do my best to not with any of these but there's an old saying is like your contracts is only as good as it is specific right yes is a loose contract where you just go well the logos doing whenever it's done that's how you get boned on on the on the work side is the contractor so what do you what what advice would you give to someone who maybe has some downloaded contract from the Internet in order that don't ever do that for me that's the first in the graduate nursing anyone other than to go to like sums LegalZoom or some crank out not only goes over there in a little bit of contracts right so so go to LegalZoom to get your LLC started if he have done it that way right right that little zoom can be useful THE LEFT AND YOU'RE DOING I WROTE SOME I LIKE TO TALK TO GRADING AGREEMENT WRITING GENERIC DUMB TIME GENERIC WORK FOR HIRE CONTRACT FOR VIDEO GRAPHICS OR WHATEVER I'M OUT THERE I'VE GOT MY OWN LITTLE BUSINESS I JUST STARTED UP, AND I NEED A CONTRACT BECAUSE I GOT A CLIENT WHOSE IDEA YOU FIND THAT BUSINESS ATTORNEY AND YOU SEE IF YOU CAN KIND OF TRADE SERVICES WHAT OKAY SO WHAT COULD WHAT SHOULD A BUSINESS ATTORNEY GO AHEAD GO FOR FROM PAYING CASH AND WASH UP WHAT WOULD BUSINESS ATTORNEYS GO FOR FROM TRON TRADE SERVICE IT'S DIFFERENT EVERY STATE IS DEAFLY DIFFERENT IN SCOPE BUT FOR THIS EXAMPLE I'LL TRY TO SAY LIKE YOU KNOW IT'S WORTH BUT FEW GRANDBABY TO DO IT AND I THE WAY I DO A BURGER BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WE WORK WITH AND I TRY TO THAT YOU KNOW THE NURSE THERE IN THAT IMMATURE PHASES I CAUGHT UNDER THREE YEARS AS A BUSINESS JUSTICE YOU WERE ABOUT TO GET TO THAT THREE YEAR MARK IF WERE NOT ALREADY I DON'T KNOW WE TECHNICALLY STARTED BUT LET'S JUST SAY WERE THAT IMMATURE ZONE AS A BUSINESS AND I'D SAY OKAY ARE OUR RATES ARE HUNDRED AND 8650 AN HOUR YOURS IS AN ATTORNEY IS TWICE THAT SO WILL DO TWICE THE HOURS TO DO YOUR WEBSITE IF YOU HELP US DO CONTRACTS OR WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER WILL PAY FOR THAT WE FIGURE IT OUT BUT YOU KNOW WITH VIDEO AND ON THE MARKETING SIDE THAT COULD BE OF THAT CAN GO ON FOREVER TO MAKE UP FOR THAT AND THERE'S ALWAYS ATTORNEYS THAT NEED HELP WITH THAT TOO SO I WOULD SAY THAT SCENARIO THAT'S THE WAY I PLAY IT THAT'S KIND OF THE PRAGMATIC ADVICE THE REAL-LIFE ICE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT LIKE MY DAD WOULD GIVE HER SUPER CONSERVATIVE YOU KNOW JUST PAID FIND THAT ATTORNEY THAT IT'S AT THE YOUNGISH LEVEL NOT DON'T GO THE BIG FIRMS BECAUSE IT CAN BE SO EXPENSIVE DO THE ONES THAT YOU KNOW AROUND YOUR AGE THAT WILL DO IT BUT PAY YOUR FRIEND THAT'S A BUSINESS ATTORNEY COUPLE GRAND WHAT YOU NEED IS OPERATING AGREEMENTS YOU NEED YOUR LLC DECLARATION WHATEVER DOCS SO WHO HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OR ON THE LLC WHO IS A MEMBER WHO'S A MANAGER'S MEMBER MANAGER AND THEN IF YOU DO ANY IT WILL AND STUFF WITH THE STATE SEE NEED TO GET STUFF DONE LIKE FEDERALLY STATE AND THEN YOU JUST NEED THIS CONTRACT STARTED DO NOT GO ONLINE TO GET IT BECAUSE YOU YOU BASICALLY YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THAT MINDSET IF YOU'RE GOING OFF ON TO FIND A TEMPLATE BUT YOU JUST WHAT WE JUST BACKTRACK TO YOU JUST MADE YOURSELF OPEN ENDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SET UP FOR YOU BUT THE WITH IT FULLY CREATIVE PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT INTO ADMIN STUFF LIKE THAT SHIRT AND IT'S LIKE THEY ALL WANT TO GO THAT WERE TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO GET IT DONE MOVE ON OR WHATEVER I TELL THAT CRATE A PERSON RIGHT NOW I'M TALKING SO NEW ON THE CLOSE MINDS AND TALK AND WRITE TO YOU RIGHT NOW I KNOW THAT FEELING YOU'LL ALWAYS STAY A FREELANCER ALWAYS ALWAYS BE A FREELANCER WILL NEVER GET OUT OF THAT HOLE YOU'LL NEVER GET TO THAT NEXT LEVEL IF YOU DON'T PUSH YOURSELF TO DOING THAT MINISTRY AND I'M SAYING THIS MYSELF THIS TIME AND I'M TAGGING ONTO THE YOU THAT'S HOW YOU LOSE $10,000 IN CONTRACTED BUSINESS IN YOUR FIRST ONE OR TWO YEARS EASILY THAT I'VE LOST MONEY BECAUSE THE CONTRACTS DIDN'T STATE CERTAIN THINGS AND BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT QUITE LITERALLY MY PAYMENTS EOB NOW LIKE FIVE GRAND AND GUYS LIKE WILL THE CONCERT WAS FOR 2500 MIKE YEAH BUT YOU KNOW YOU DID THIS HE DID THAT EXIST BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT YEAH BUT YOU KNOW I HEAR WHAT HE MEANS IS WITH US THAT THIS THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU INTERPRETED AS BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT AND IT CAN'T FIND MY NEXT THING I THINK IS TO TURBOTAX OR CONTRACTS A LITTLE BIT YEAH I LOVE TURBOTAX I THINK WHAT THEY'VE DONE UNIT WHAT GO FRESH BUT DOESN'T SAY IT OUT LOUD NOW IT'S FINE FOR THE SAME THING FIRST BOOKS IS MORE PUBLIC HOUSING YEAH TURBERVILLE TAXES HIS TRIP TO CUBA KNOW I KNOW I AM GONE SO I USE TURBOTAX IS A REALLY IN AN LEGALZOOM TO A DEGREE OF THIS THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT IS TURBOTAX IS DONE THE BEST JOB OF TAKING WHAT SUPER COMPLICATED AND TAXES MAKING IT SO SIMPLIFIED THAT ANY BONUS AT THIS TABLE CAN DO ARE INTACT IT'S REALLY ANNOYING WHEN YOU SEE HOW MUCH THEY'VE SIMPLIFIED IT AND THEN YOU SEE THE PAPERWORK THAT THEY SPIT OUT A THING LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME LIKE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO FIGURE THAT OUT ON THEIR OWN EXACT WITHOUT THIS WHILE I LIKE THIS IS A TINFOIL HAT SO KNOCK IT AGAIN TO SAY LIKE EVERYTHING I HAD TO BE HARD YEAH FOR SURE NO ONE'S VIEWING PEOPLE IN A FIGHT THAT ACCOUNTANTS AND ACCOUNTANTS WANT THEY LIKE IT WANTED TO BE HARD SO BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEIR JOB AND THEIR ALLY WITH RIGHT SO EXACTLY SO SO MY THING IS LIKE HOW CAN I TURBOTAX ARE CONTRACTS OR CLIENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON TO AND I THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GET TO EVENTUALLY IS LIKE SOME KIND OF INTERFACE MAY BE THROUGH TYPE FORMS OR INCOGNITO FORMS THAT YOU KNOW IT SPELLS IT OUT IN A VERY BASIC MANNER AND THEN HERE IS ACTUALLY THE LEGAL JARGON UNDERNEATH RIGHT NOW WILL BOTH KNOW THAT OUT THE HAVEN BUT LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST IS FAMILIAR WITH BUILDING THOSE KIND OF FORMS AND WANTS TO DO A LITTLE SWEAT EQUITY TRADE AND WHEN HELP US OUT WITH THAT TO ME WILL WORK ON YOUR MARKETING AND AND THINGS THAT NATURE AND YOU COULD HELP US, WITH THE WAY THAT WE CAN CREATE A UNIVERSAL CONTRACT THAT IS EASY ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE TO PLUG IN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND SPIT OUT A CONTRACT THAT WORKS WITH EVERYBODY I'LL GIVE YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS WILL IT'S ALSO KNOW IT'S MORE ABOUT AND THEY WILL HELP MARKET THAT AND THEY WILL RESELL IT AND WILL BE A PART OF IT AND THAT WE MOVE ON FROM THERE IT'S PART OF THE BUT IS ALSO THE CLIENT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY SIGNED SOME OF THE TIME AND SO IT'S I DON'T WANT AN ITUNES TERMS AND AGREEMENT WERE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET HIM TO SCROLL THROUGH EVERYTHING AND CLICK YES I DON'T REALLY WANT THAT BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING TO BUT I CAN'T BUT YOU ALSO IT DOES NOT MATTER ALSO LIKE I CAN'T GO BACK AND GO OVER INDEMNIFICATION FOR AN HOUR WITH THAT BECAUSE I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY I CAN TELL YOU LIKE I DID I WAS BILLED NONATTORNEY I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON OUR PART WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAND OVER ANYTHING COPYWRITTEN THAT WE PUT OUT THERE THAT WE GIVE BACK TO YOU OR WE MARKET FOR YOU AND THEN WE GET BONED ON THAT WE GET SUED ON THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT ARE YOU ESPECIALLY HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL VIDEO IF YOU HAVE A STUFF LIKE OH YOU KNOW HAVE THESE CLIPS AND THIS THIS FOOTAGE FROM OUR LAST VIDEO LIKE ALL THOSE MACDONALDS CLEARLY PRESENT IN THIS VIDEO AND YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING IT'S A VIDEO AGAINST THE SAME BURGER GREASER IS A VEGETARIAN PUTTING VIDEO IN A BIG MAC FOR EXAMPLE YEAH BUT EXACT SHOT AGAIN JOHN JACOBS FF FF PRESENT MCDONALD'S LOGO ON HIS OUTLETS AS WELL OR DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT SON THAT CASE I UNITED BUT I I PERSONALLY CAN'T MISS IT I HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES AS A EAM AND PUT THIS UP THAT WAY BUT IF DONALD COMES AFTER YOU AND I DON'T HAVE A DAY YOU NEED TO PUT DOWN I HAVE THAT I GUESS I DON'T TRUST THAT ARE WE GOING TO SHUT THIS THING DOWN BECAUSE I'VE GOT A HEART OUT AND YOU GUYS HAVE GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON ANY LAST WORDS BEFORE WE TELL PEOPLE SUBSCRIBE RATE REVIEW TELL A FRIEND TELL THAT LOVE ONE COWORKER ABOUT THIS PODCAST SEND US A MESSAGE IT'S NICE TO PEOPLE FITNESS UP THIS FILE IS NICE I WAS I GOT SOME LINKEDIN WERE TO DO MAILBAG TRY ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY GLOBAL NICE SO I GOT IF YOU WANT TO WRITE WHAT SHOULD MAKE THE EMAILS I ANSWER I ANSWER STUFF ON LINKEDIN ABOUT YOU THERE'S A THING CALLED BIKE GIVE PEOPLE ADVICE OR SUMMIT THAT AND SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY LIKES DEVICE HAVE BEEN GIVEN BUT THE CONDO ADVICE CORNER IF ONLY TO ANSWER THOSE IN THE INTERIM ON HERE AT LEAST ELISE WILL GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT IN THE MENTOR WERE BOTH WEARING THE SAME PANTS TODAY RANDOMLY YET IT LIKE THAT HELLO LEVANT THAT MET THE GIRL YOU SEE THAT NOT ALL AMERICANS WENT TO SICK GUYS AND ALSO BETWEEN TWO CIGARS WERE IN THE SAME PAN IT WILL OVERNIGHT IN THE SAME PAIR PAN WE WILL INCLUDE SEPARATE PAIRS OF PANTS THAT ARE THE SAME DESIGN WHATEVER NOT WALK AROUND THE DINNER KIND OF DAD ON KEYS I DID THE DEED IS NAVY BLUE WERE KIND OF THE DAD YEAH I GOT MY KIDS LIKE ROSEVILLE ATHLETIC BUT I'M COMFORTABLE AND SAME FAMILIES IN THE WEARING SWEATPANTS MY DADDY'S WERE HOSPITAL PENCILED ALL SCRUBS WHILE HAVE THE ULTIMATE DATA'S MOVE I MIGHT I MIGHT START ADOPTING A LITTLE IT WAS ETHEL'S COUNTY SCHOOL THAT I THAT'S IF I CAST FOR ERIC DAMIEN ON LAW AND OH INJURY OFF OFF CAMERA SUBSCRIBE RATE REVIEW COMMENT DO SOMETHING IF YOU DO A COMMENT YOU CAN TALK SHIPPED JUST AS LONG AS IT'S TRYING TO BE FUNNY THAT'S THAT YOU CAN TALK SHOW ABOUT US ON CARE BUT THIS TRY TO MAKE AWAY YES THAT'S IT FOR NOW YOU KNOW THAT YOU NOT IN THIS THING THREE PRESS THE RED BUTTON THE DRAGON IS LIGHTED RIGHT

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I'm looking at right now it is not meals and entertainment what counterweight no other consultants let meals and entertainment) I think they mean they may want to do branding so literally every conversation we have comes back to some kind of work with what were doing in this office so we got write-offs and I need fresh books to make that happen but tell me about your insurance will I pull up profit code is important to bring my spiritual strippers with my spirit fresh books if you can mix the two that would make yeah, well you know he's getting his it is a thing that people realize that it strippers are independent contractors and bites by default the clothing that they buy even though it's a very skimpy clothing is actually a write off so they could actually put just like you would write off a suit for a new job you connect to write off clothing if it pertains to your work so for all of you out there in the adult entertainment industry if you're not using fresh books to you know write off your heels your Skippy clothing and other such items then you're missing out you actually able to know yeah claim some stuff on taxes you want to do cash business all the time when it could claim something on taxes that way when it comes to buying a car or a house you can show some sort of income that thing is important to you to strippers so sorry so many that you might think they they put You know that I found in IRS and will work it in man-hours it is not yet filibustered nicely I would say as he scribbled will straightfaced mind with the straightlaced entire time go fresh books.com/sweat that's go fresh books.com/Iguess you don't see/and more/sweat like he sweat keeping you groovy our listeners get a discount you get a trial of 30 days you get the hook up it helps the show even if you're not gonna maybe zero Geyer QuickBooks guy just click on the link in the in the in the description is it all, helps us out you know anything you gotta promote to get the contract stuff so you know I'm here with Julie monkey representing all the graphics and video people out there are animations and zones of what we have our new intern Jordan from destitute of Tampa who is switching today for Salerno Jordan he is not you might not say much to say hi hi there apology and advance the switching of very new interface me but it's going well yeah don't worry about it just just make sure when people are watching that they want to barf switch a lot as fast as you go yeah yeah probably won't hear much from him the rest of the episode as we do give them but they didn't want to really build these off-camera he's having a bad hair day yeah he's well you know it's not our splitting is you said that walking in right oh well I heard it on this and I'm saying is that you're not a good hair day that thing is just backwards perfectly yet looks like it's like bed had made it site made to be messy can I think you know what people listen to podcasts love is talking about stuff the cancer well sorry about this, accountable what we were were not just a really nice really give it varies or why I'm really good a given description I can give a very descriptive please use your words were podcast in streaming show I want to make that declaration right now we were both its word and most podcasts are gonna be doing that to you know all the big got all the big dogs got have video at some point that's true that's an that I actually have time to listen to a video podcast and listen to in my car so I could make Lance down and see something but I'm really listening to it more than it right right so what you turn on a video podcast and then just listen to the audio while there are some of my pockets are only on like YouTube video so I don't really gotcha I guess accent didn't have that party your podcast working to get you on audio soon yes we are its embryos it will start recording the audio to that we have so many is it said that a video production company that has all the bells and whistles doesn't extract the audio from behind It was tough Type that's can be Jordan's job mean it's super easy but it's like how many administrative things can you do at some point you gotta have someone qualify the Jordan to help out with that it is super it if you need to know how to do it you can download anything you do on Facebook live or YouTube live streaming you can re-download that video let people don't know that and then if you have a Mac going quick quick time file export audio pitch there you go that's all I do because the audio that comes through our lifestream it's all mixed already zones are it's all good yeah it no one knows anybody is not that are you'll have have super high quality audio well I don't know we've I've I've gotten somehow apparently I was popping he told me to stop and will be a hassle telecast place the lemminglike audio nerds will tell you there very sensitive about that right but most people are not audio nerds third even okay with a pop every once in think about it like we do yeah yeah but when it when it especially start mixing video video and audio is very important we have people that sound like an empty room evolves and if I started something like this hey so our habit I was a writer on this podcast yeah so what will like that it will reduce really do many podcast and I'm gonna throw it out there without talking to Eric about it first shuffled to another will do another mini one early next week to kinda Joel make it kind of a full our of sorts just because were pressed for time today but I want to go for contracts is if you like a talk to a lot of freelancers and a lot of agencies a lot of firms about this and I want to give the advice straight that I got after going through a suit with the client at one point couple years ago and it's it's pretty easy to follow but it again administratively this is a lasting want to do in the business development process is really worry about your contract usually get started if your small business or if you're doing your side thing or you know you don't want to have to double back and be like that's that actually the part that takes me out of flight the energy of like getting it going you know my gosh I got a right three today that's I guess that's where this kind was bubbling in my head anyway and so when you have your contract a don't get your friend that's an attorney that does real estate to do your contracts it will get them to do a template for you get a business attorney people think attorneys are just you're an attorney you can do everything and if so specified especially now might be the most specified learning of medical field probably the second-most great segment of what they're even batlike. Bill knows more medicines like are you cold is your lymph node so they know the questions asked Dr. usually attorneys they said I don't want to know what you have business attorneys you know even business attorneys some are good and employment and some are good at mergers and acquisitions you really need to con a Nero that feel down to like who's done a lot of start ups or who's done a lot of small businesses were you kinda doing your own thing what provisions can they help you put in there so you don't get screwed so like if your graphic designer my heart goes out to the good graphic designers out there you got a lot of animators and stuff because what happens is they end up now it's tough because a lot of them are flakes to but they end up getting screwed a lot because design a by client is never recognized for what it should be and then be like design is tough original design is really tough but like there's a lot of iterations that happen behind the scenes the client is know about and I feel like there's a lot you always need to declare all right were making a logo there's three rounds each round has the first run has five concepts and then we whittled down each time you hear that days we meet for these notes I need feedback from you so the way we do like a logo design is a go three rounds five concepts six concepts whatever and in between each round we give a little bit of breath so let's call it six weeks which is still pretty quick Chris would like that but like books when I round one on this on the to show you the we shown in person or via video because unless your instant reaction round two and three healthcare because of we just need feedback and then on I'll give you three days to give me more notes because I want you, digest it but on that third day we show you on Monday on Thursday you have to get us feedback if you want it if you want to submit feedback you have to be the strict about her osteophyte right right yeah well I mean your movies go as is even tighter it's the same thing to me whether with the design as design iterations or iterations and feedback is the one in the things that can slow down the project to a crawl especially when you're in the creative state whether you're doing a character design or you're doing a costume design or doing a logo design when you're trying to basically I must take the words that you tell me turn that into an image of some sort and give you that image and then take more words if you tell me and and convert that into an image again were really basically trying to read minds and figure out that image that that perfect image that's in your head and even that that the ideas that no not every client comes and sit with the perfect image most clients with the table the concept and then they basically by either by a committee of one or committee of many try to decide does this feel right at this look right where are we getting the right response from this particular image logo in this case and if that's the case what's our feedback but that feedback takes if you guys are making a decision and that decision takes three weeks to come to a conclusion the NUI case so I know this project left with only four weeks it took us three weeks to make a decision on this one round crystal get in time for the fourth week that then become is a problem it's like translating I was going to say a link from a whole other language with like doing it to in one language and then another one because like the law says you want to see somebody's visceral reaction then your reading their body language then you gotta process all that on your end you know you're getting feedback there and most the time people we've done podcasts about this words like they really don't know what they want they just know what they don't want annexes like was like get that's good because also say there's three episodes we try to keep these podcast episodes a little bit evergreen I might have a hacking reference to like Sica or something you know so if there little old like that that's why but open music of the will and maybe heads yeah sprinkle only at night it had thought that was going what if I make a reference that stated like Anthony Weiner for some like that you know it's yet that started that out throw that out we try to meet the vice is you know is good for a couple years as we can make it and or Evergreen or whatever you want to call it so go back if you want to search and sweat equity's episodes for Steve and Teddy use our power business attorney he we break down the basics of getting the legal going and I go through every dumb question you house you don't have to ask your guy or gal the other one is how to get creative notes back which is my lease everything I try not to lose my ship is when I click free of notes that I just don't give me something I don't like that yeah just to say I want to go back and listen how angry we were where doing this when I want to have you gotten this note better right. So then I go what's better is it that the shape is it the 2D or 3D version of this is a the color or what screen are you looking at dishonoring on your phone or just better than last yet so I keep going I keep digging like an attorney, does it just keep going okay so what were how are you looking at what kind of just Opry on right now is the retina screen like mine or is it kind of the old school Dell what are you working on it's it's a computer so what kind of computer we working with I think it's a PC PC alright so we talking gateway from the 90s shall throw in a little shady joke like that so that gets their year like oh I didn't know the Roebling today but okay again and propped up on time I got you it's yes and if you want me to take over for the better questions while there is a well known the masque of this question my company gave it to me by the waves I can see your screen because we have the technology to be able to track that so yeah yeah if you want to look at boomerang for your emails to track if people open your emails that's a little helpful advice right there if you're sending contract via email which I don't recommend I did send them via doc you sign or some other cloud-based service like that it's worth it because it will send them a copy immediately after done on that ship but we use boomerang from Gmail so if if you guys want some to go it is Fokker actually open his email up it's like 15 bucks a month you can track the idea of it was starting with if they don't open or you can have a drop down if they don't open reply click or something else we actually read it it'll figure out if they read the email it will boomerang it back to them as a new email whatever today's whatever you want nice suits we actually save you a lot of time and if were efficient you break out doing your emails like throughout the day but you only send him they only go out is that the end of the day her stomach that don't ask this because in for a long time I was the only point of contact for my business and my clients is my clients is when clients – which I did you ever like your machine did you ever find yourself in a position where you're sending out a contract Eric and that you are like momentum built such a great relationship with this person I was the person who introduced him I got them all light wet and ready and now got hit with the legal document does that ever find your fine hesitation how to get past the barricade of crap I gotta get real with these people will so what were doing now law does all that Tillich that this part of that that I'm glad that I don't want to deal with that sort of thing because it is like no matter what the lawyers involved people just get weirdly getting tightened up if you don't know that person's like little man was that mean what is it me for later they train early recording you are now like what that sort of thing so I personally haven't had a lot of at least in this business was doing videographer you know I would get into the contracts and stuff little bit but that was all basically copy and pasted standard videography contract that I never bothered will, I mean I looked at it you know to make sure wasn't saying that we set ourselves on fire at the end of the night or something weird but you know it I never had a problem with it if the deal done sending a contract out I mean that's all the paperwork people usually build yet mutant and no one wants to really get lawyers involved I try to do my best to not with any of these but there's an old saying is like your contracts is only as good as it is specific right yes is a loose contract where you just go well the logos doing whenever it's done that's how you get boned on on the on the work side is the contractor so what do you what what advice would you give to someone who maybe has some downloaded contract from the Internet in order that don't ever do that for me that's the first in the graduate nursing anyone other than to go to like sums LegalZoom or some crank out not only goes over there in a little bit of contracts right so so go to LegalZoom to get your LLC started if he have done it that way right right that little zoom can be useful THE LEFT AND YOU'RE DOING I WROTE SOME I LIKE TO TALK TO GRADING AGREEMENT WRITING GENERIC DUMB TIME GENERIC WORK FOR HIRE CONTRACT FOR VIDEO GRAPHICS OR WHATEVER I'M OUT THERE I'VE GOT MY OWN LITTLE BUSINESS I JUST STARTED UP, AND I NEED A CONTRACT BECAUSE I GOT A CLIENT WHOSE IDEA YOU FIND THAT BUSINESS ATTORNEY AND YOU SEE IF YOU CAN KIND OF TRADE SERVICES WHAT OKAY SO WHAT COULD WHAT SHOULD A BUSINESS ATTORNEY GO AHEAD GO FOR FROM PAYING CASH AND WASH UP WHAT WOULD BUSINESS ATTORNEYS GO FOR FROM TRON TRADE SERVICE IT'S DIFFERENT EVERY STATE IS DEAFLY DIFFERENT IN SCOPE BUT FOR THIS EXAMPLE I'LL TRY TO SAY LIKE YOU KNOW IT'S WORTH BUT FEW GRANDBABY TO DO IT AND I THE WAY I DO A BURGER BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WE WORK WITH AND I TRY TO THAT YOU KNOW THE NURSE THERE IN THAT IMMATURE PHASES I CAUGHT UNDER THREE YEARS AS A BUSINESS JUSTICE YOU WERE ABOUT TO GET TO THAT THREE YEAR MARK IF WERE NOT ALREADY I DON'T KNOW WE TECHNICALLY STARTED BUT LET'S JUST SAY WERE THAT IMMATURE ZONE AS A BUSINESS AND I'D SAY OKAY ARE OUR RATES ARE HUNDRED AND 8650 AN HOUR YOURS IS AN ATTORNEY IS TWICE THAT SO WILL DO TWICE THE HOURS TO DO YOUR WEBSITE IF YOU HELP US DO CONTRACTS OR WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER WILL PAY FOR THAT WE FIGURE IT OUT BUT YOU KNOW WITH VIDEO AND ON THE MARKETING SIDE THAT COULD BE OF THAT CAN GO ON FOREVER TO MAKE UP FOR THAT AND THERE'S ALWAYS ATTORNEYS THAT NEED HELP WITH THAT TOO SO I WOULD SAY THAT SCENARIO THAT'S THE WAY I PLAY IT THAT'S KIND OF THE PRAGMATIC ADVICE THE REAL-LIFE ICE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT LIKE MY DAD WOULD GIVE HER SUPER CONSERVATIVE YOU KNOW JUST PAID FIND THAT ATTORNEY THAT IT'S AT THE YOUNGISH LEVEL NOT DON'T GO THE BIG FIRMS BECAUSE IT CAN BE SO EXPENSIVE DO THE ONES THAT YOU KNOW AROUND YOUR AGE THAT WILL DO IT BUT PAY YOUR FRIEND THAT'S A BUSINESS ATTORNEY COUPLE GRAND WHAT YOU NEED IS OPERATING AGREEMENTS YOU NEED YOUR LLC DECLARATION WHATEVER DOCS SO WHO HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OR ON THE LLC WHO IS A MEMBER WHO'S A MANAGER'S MEMBER MANAGER AND THEN IF YOU DO ANY IT WILL AND STUFF WITH THE STATE SEE NEED TO GET STUFF DONE LIKE FEDERALLY STATE AND THEN YOU JUST NEED THIS CONTRACT STARTED DO NOT GO ONLINE TO GET IT BECAUSE YOU YOU BASICALLY YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THAT MINDSET IF YOU'RE GOING OFF ON TO FIND A TEMPLATE BUT YOU JUST WHAT WE JUST BACKTRACK TO YOU JUST MADE YOURSELF OPEN ENDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SET UP FOR YOU BUT THE WITH IT FULLY CREATIVE PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT INTO ADMIN STUFF LIKE THAT SHIRT AND IT'S LIKE THEY ALL WANT TO GO THAT WERE TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO GET IT DONE MOVE ON OR WHATEVER I TELL THAT CRATE A PERSON RIGHT NOW I'M TALKING SO NEW ON THE CLOSE MINDS AND TALK AND WRITE TO YOU RIGHT NOW I KNOW THAT FEELING YOU'LL ALWAYS STAY A FREELANCER ALWAYS ALWAYS BE A FREELANCER WILL NEVER GET OUT OF THAT HOLE YOU'LL NEVER GET TO THAT NEXT LEVEL IF YOU DON'T PUSH YOURSELF TO DOING THAT MINISTRY AND I'M SAYING THIS MYSELF THIS TIME AND I'M TAGGING ONTO THE YOU THAT'S HOW YOU LOSE $10,000 IN CONTRACTED BUSINESS IN YOUR FIRST ONE OR TWO YEARS EASILY THAT I'VE LOST MONEY BECAUSE THE CONTRACTS DIDN'T STATE CERTAIN THINGS AND BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT QUITE LITERALLY MY PAYMENTS EOB NOW LIKE FIVE GRAND AND GUYS LIKE WILL THE CONCERT WAS FOR 2500 MIKE YEAH BUT YOU KNOW YOU DID THIS HE DID THAT EXIST BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT YEAH BUT YOU KNOW I HEAR WHAT HE MEANS IS WITH US THAT THIS THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU INTERPRETED AS BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT AND IT CAN'T FIND MY NEXT THING I THINK IS TO TURBOTAX OR CONTRACTS A LITTLE BIT YEAH I LOVE TURBOTAX I THINK WHAT THEY'VE DONE UNIT WHAT GO FRESH BUT DOESN'T SAY IT OUT LOUD NOW IT'S FINE FOR THE SAME THING FIRST BOOKS IS MORE PUBLIC HOUSING YEAH TURBERVILLE TAXES HIS TRIP TO CUBA KNOW I KNOW I AM GONE SO I USE TURBOTAX IS A REALLY IN AN LEGALZOOM TO A DEGREE OF THIS THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT IS TURBOTAX IS DONE THE BEST JOB OF TAKING WHAT SUPER COMPLICATED AND TAXES MAKING IT SO SIMPLIFIED THAT ANY BONUS AT THIS TABLE CAN DO ARE INTACT IT'S REALLY ANNOYING WHEN YOU SEE HOW MUCH THEY'VE SIMPLIFIED IT AND THEN YOU SEE THE PAPERWORK THAT THEY SPIT OUT A THING LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME LIKE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO FIGURE THAT OUT ON THEIR OWN EXACT WITHOUT THIS WHILE I LIKE THIS IS A TINFOIL HAT SO KNOCK IT AGAIN TO SAY LIKE EVERYTHING I HAD TO BE HARD YEAH FOR SURE NO ONE'S VIEWING PEOPLE IN A FIGHT THAT ACCOUNTANTS AND ACCOUNTANTS WANT THEY LIKE IT WANTED TO BE HARD SO BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEIR JOB AND THEIR ALLY WITH RIGHT SO EXACTLY SO SO MY THING IS LIKE HOW CAN I TURBOTAX ARE CONTRACTS OR CLIENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON TO AND I THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GET TO EVENTUALLY IS LIKE SOME KIND OF INTERFACE MAY BE THROUGH TYPE FORMS OR INCOGNITO FORMS THAT YOU KNOW IT SPELLS IT OUT IN A VERY BASIC MANNER AND THEN HERE IS ACTUALLY THE LEGAL JARGON UNDERNEATH RIGHT NOW WILL BOTH KNOW THAT OUT THE HAVEN BUT LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST IS FAMILIAR WITH BUILDING THOSE KIND OF FORMS AND WANTS TO DO A LITTLE SWEAT EQUITY TRADE AND WHEN HELP US OUT WITH THAT TO ME WILL WORK ON YOUR MARKETING AND AND THINGS THAT NATURE AND YOU COULD HELP US, WITH THE WAY THAT WE CAN CREATE A UNIVERSAL CONTRACT THAT IS EASY ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE TO PLUG IN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND SPIT OUT A CONTRACT THAT WORKS WITH EVERYBODY I'LL GIVE YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS WILL IT'S ALSO KNOW IT'S MORE ABOUT AND THEY WILL HELP MARKET THAT AND THEY WILL RESELL IT AND WILL BE A PART OF IT AND THAT WE MOVE ON FROM THERE IT'S PART OF THE BUT IS ALSO THE CLIENT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY SIGNED SOME OF THE TIME AND SO IT'S I DON'T WANT AN ITUNES TERMS AND AGREEMENT WERE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET HIM TO SCROLL THROUGH EVERYTHING AND CLICK YES I DON'T REALLY WANT THAT BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING TO BUT I CAN'T BUT YOU ALSO IT DOES NOT MATTER ALSO LIKE I CAN'T GO BACK AND GO OVER INDEMNIFICATION FOR AN HOUR WITH THAT BECAUSE I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY I CAN TELL YOU LIKE I DID I WAS BILLED NONATTORNEY I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON OUR PART WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAND OVER ANYTHING COPYWRITTEN THAT WE PUT OUT THERE THAT WE GIVE BACK TO YOU OR WE MARKET FOR YOU AND THEN WE GET BONED ON THAT WE GET SUED ON THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT ARE YOU ESPECIALLY HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL VIDEO IF YOU HAVE A STUFF LIKE OH YOU KNOW HAVE THESE CLIPS AND THIS THIS FOOTAGE FROM OUR LAST VIDEO LIKE ALL THOSE MACDONALDS CLEARLY PRESENT IN THIS VIDEO AND YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING IT'S A VIDEO AGAINST THE SAME BURGER GREASER IS A VEGETARIAN PUTTING VIDEO IN A BIG MAC FOR EXAMPLE YEAH BUT EXACT SHOT AGAIN JOHN JACOBS FF FF PRESENT MCDONALD'S LOGO ON HIS OUTLETS AS WELL OR DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT SON THAT CASE I UNITED BUT I I PERSONALLY CAN'T MISS IT I HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES AS A EAM AND PUT THIS UP THAT WAY BUT IF DONALD COMES AFTER YOU AND I DON'T HAVE A DAY YOU NEED TO PUT DOWN I HAVE THAT I GUESS I DON'T TRUST THAT ARE WE GOING TO SHUT THIS THING DOWN BECAUSE I'VE GOT A HEART OUT AND YOU GUYS HAVE GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON ANY LAST WORDS BEFORE WE TELL PEOPLE SUBSCRIBE RATE REVIEW TELL A FRIEND TELL THAT LOVE ONE COWORKER ABOUT THIS PODCAST SEND US A MESSAGE IT'S NICE TO PEOPLE FITNESS UP THIS FILE IS NICE I WAS I GOT SOME LINKEDIN WERE TO DO MAILBAG TRY ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY GLOBAL NICE SO I GOT IF YOU WANT TO WRITE WHAT SHOULD MAKE THE EMAILS I ANSWER I ANSWER STUFF ON LINKEDIN ABOUT YOU THERE'S A THING CALLED BIKE GIVE PEOPLE ADVICE OR SUMMIT THAT AND SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY LIKES DEVICE HAVE BEEN GIVEN BUT THE CONDO ADVICE CORNER IF ONLY TO ANSWER THOSE IN THE INTERIM ON HERE AT LEAST ELISE WILL GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT IN THE MENTOR WERE BOTH WEARING THE SAME PANTS TODAY RANDOMLY YET IT LIKE THAT HELLO LEVANT THAT MET THE GIRL YOU SEE THAT NOT ALL AMERICANS WENT TO SICK GUYS AND ALSO BETWEEN TWO CIGARS WERE IN THE SAME PAN IT WILL OVERNIGHT IN THE SAME PAIR PAN WE WILL INCLUDE SEPARATE PAIRS OF PANTS THAT ARE THE SAME DESIGN WHATEVER NOT WALK AROUND THE DINNER KIND OF DAD ON KEYS I DID THE DEED IS NAVY BLUE WERE KIND OF THE DAD YEAH I GOT MY KIDS LIKE ROSEVILLE ATHLETIC BUT I'M COMFORTABLE AND SAME FAMILIES IN THE WEARING SWEATPANTS MY DADDY'S WERE HOSPITAL PENCILED ALL SCRUBS WHILE HAVE THE ULTIMATE DATA'S MOVE I MIGHT I MIGHT START ADOPTING A LITTLE IT WAS ETHEL'S COUNTY SCHOOL THAT I THAT'S IF I CAST FOR ERIC DAMIEN ON LAW AND OH INJURY OFF OFF CAMERA SUBSCRIBE RATE REVIEW COMMENT DO SOMETHING IF YOU DO A COMMENT YOU CAN TALK SHIPPED JUST AS LONG AS IT'S TRYING TO BE FUNNY THAT'S THAT YOU CAN TALK SHOW ABOUT US ON CARE BUT THIS TRY TO MAKE AWAY YES THAT'S IT FOR NOW YOU KNOW THAT YOU NOT IN THIS THING THREE PRESS THE RED BUTTON THE DRAGON IS LIGHTED RIGHT

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I'm looking at right now it is not meals and entertainment what counterweight no other consultants let meals and entertainment) I think they mean they may want to do branding so literally every conversation we have comes back to some kind of work with what were doing in this office so we got write-offs and I need fresh books to make that happen but tell me about your insurance will I pull up profit code is important to bring my spiritual strippers with my spirit fresh books if you can mix the two that would make yeah, well you know he's getting his it is a thing that people realize that it strippers are independent contractors and bites by default the clothing that they buy even though it's a very skimpy clothing is actually a write off so they could actually put just like you would write off a suit for a new job you connect to write off clothing if it pertains to your work so for all of you out there in the adult entertainment industry if you're not using fresh books to you know write off your heels your Skippy clothing and other such items then you're missing out you actually able to know yeah claim some stuff on taxes you want to do cash business all the time when it could claim something on taxes that way when it comes to buying a car or a house you can show some sort of income that thing is important to you to strippers so sorry so many that you might think they they put You know that I found in IRS and will work it in man-hours it is not yet filibustered nicely I would say as he scribbled will straightfaced mind with the straightlaced entire time go fresh books.com/sweat that's go fresh books.com/Iguess you don't see/and more/sweat like he sweat keeping you groovy our listeners get a discount you get a trial of 30 days you get the hook up it helps the show even if you're not gonna maybe zero Geyer QuickBooks guy just click on the link in the in the in the description is it all, helps us out you know anything you gotta promote to get the contract stuff so you know I'm here with Julie monkey representing all the graphics and video people out there are animations and zones of what we have our new intern Jordan from destitute of Tampa who is switching today for Salerno Jordan he is not you might not say much to say hi hi there apology and advance the switching of very new interface me but it's going well yeah don't worry about it just just make sure when people are watching that they want to barf switch a lot as fast as you go yeah yeah probably won't hear much from him the rest of the episode as we do give them but they didn't want to really build these off-camera he's having a bad hair day yeah he's well you know it's not our splitting is you said that walking in right oh well I heard it on this and I'm saying is that you're not a good hair day that thing is just backwards perfectly yet looks like it's like bed had made it site made to be messy can I think you know what people listen to podcasts love is talking about stuff the cancer well sorry about this, accountable what we were were not just a really nice really give it varies or why I'm really good a given description I can give a very descriptive please use your words were podcast in streaming show I want to make that declaration right now we were both its word and most podcasts are gonna be doing that to you know all the big got all the big dogs got have video at some point that's true that's an that I actually have time to listen to a video podcast and listen to in my car so I could make Lance down and see something but I'm really listening to it more than it right right so what you turn on a video podcast and then just listen to the audio while there are some of my pockets are only on like YouTube video so I don't really gotcha I guess accent didn't have that party your podcast working to get you on audio soon yes we are its embryos it will start recording the audio to that we have so many is it said that a video production company that has all the bells and whistles doesn't extract the audio from behind It was tough Type that's can be Jordan's job mean it's super easy but it's like how many administrative things can you do at some point you gotta have someone qualify the Jordan to help out with that it is super it if you need to know how to do it you can download anything you do on Facebook live or YouTube live streaming you can re-download that video let people don't know that and then if you have a Mac going quick quick time file export audio pitch there you go that's all I do because the audio that comes through our lifestream it's all mixed already zones are it's all good yeah it no one knows anybody is not that are you'll have have super high quality audio well I don't know we've I've I've gotten somehow apparently I was popping he told me to stop and will be a hassle telecast place the lemminglike audio nerds will tell you there very sensitive about that right but most people are not audio nerds third even okay with a pop every once in think about it like we do yeah yeah but when it when it especially start mixing video video and audio is very important we have people that sound like an empty room evolves and if I started something like this hey so our habit I was a writer on this podcast yeah so what will like that it will reduce really do many podcast and I'm gonna throw it out there without talking to Eric about it first shuffled to another will do another mini one early next week to kinda Joel make it kind of a full our of sorts just because were pressed for time today but I want to go for contracts is if you like a talk to a lot of freelancers and a lot of agencies a lot of firms about this and I want to give the advice straight that I got after going through a suit with the client at one point couple years ago and it's it's pretty easy to follow but it again administratively this is a lasting want to do in the business development process is really worry about your contract usually get started if your small business or if you're doing your side thing or you know you don't want to have to double back and be like that's that actually the part that takes me out of flight the energy of like getting it going you know my gosh I got a right three today that's I guess that's where this kind was bubbling in my head anyway and so when you have your contract a don't get your friend that's an attorney that does real estate to do your contracts it will get them to do a template for you get a business attorney people think attorneys are just you're an attorney you can do everything and if so specified especially now might be the most specified learning of medical field probably the second-most great segment of what they're even batlike. Bill knows more medicines like are you cold is your lymph node so they know the questions asked Dr. usually attorneys they said I don't want to know what you have business attorneys you know even business attorneys some are good and employment and some are good at mergers and acquisitions you really need to con a Nero that feel down to like who's done a lot of start ups or who's done a lot of small businesses were you kinda doing your own thing what provisions can they help you put in there so you don't get screwed so like if your graphic designer my heart goes out to the good graphic designers out there you got a lot of animators and stuff because what happens is they end up now it's tough because a lot of them are flakes to but they end up getting screwed a lot because design a by client is never recognized for what it should be and then be like design is tough original design is really tough but like there's a lot of iterations that happen behind the scenes the client is know about and I feel like there's a lot you always need to declare all right were making a logo there's three rounds each round has the first run has five concepts and then we whittled down each time you hear that days we meet for these notes I need feedback from you so the way we do like a logo design is a go three rounds five concepts six concepts whatever and in between each round we give a little bit of breath so let's call it six weeks which is still pretty quick Chris would like that but like books when I round one on this on the to show you the we shown in person or via video because unless your instant reaction round two and three healthcare because of we just need feedback and then on I'll give you three days to give me more notes because I want you, digest it but on that third day we show you on Monday on Thursday you have to get us feedback if you want it if you want to submit feedback you have to be the strict about her osteophyte right right yeah well I mean your movies go as is even tighter it's the same thing to me whether with the design as design iterations or iterations and feedback is the one in the things that can slow down the project to a crawl especially when you're in the creative state whether you're doing a character design or you're doing a costume design or doing a logo design when you're trying to basically I must take the words that you tell me turn that into an image of some sort and give you that image and then take more words if you tell me and and convert that into an image again were really basically trying to read minds and figure out that image that that perfect image that's in your head and even that that the ideas that no not every client comes and sit with the perfect image most clients with the table the concept and then they basically by either by a committee of one or committee of many try to decide does this feel right at this look right where are we getting the right response from this particular image logo in this case and if that's the case what's our feedback but that feedback takes if you guys are making a decision and that decision takes three weeks to come to a conclusion the NUI case so I know this project left with only four weeks it took us three weeks to make a decision on this one round crystal get in time for the fourth week that then become is a problem it's like translating I was going to say a link from a whole other language with like doing it to in one language and then another one because like the law says you want to see somebody's visceral reaction then your reading their body language then you gotta process all that on your end you know you're getting feedback there and most the time people we've done podcasts about this words like they really don't know what they want they just know what they don't want annexes like was like get that's good because also say there's three episodes we try to keep these podcast episodes a little bit evergreen I might have a hacking reference to like Sica or something you know so if there little old like that that's why but open music of the will and maybe heads yeah sprinkle only at night it had thought that was going what if I make a reference that stated like Anthony Weiner for some like that you know it's yet that started that out throw that out we try to meet the vice is you know is good for a couple years as we can make it and or Evergreen or whatever you want to call it so go back if you want to search and sweat equity's episodes for Steve and Teddy use our power business attorney he we break down the basics of getting the legal going and I go through every dumb question you house you don't have to ask your guy or gal the other one is how to get creative notes back which is my lease everything I try not to lose my ship is when I click free of notes that I just don't give me something I don't like that yeah just to say I want to go back and listen how angry we were where doing this when I want to have you gotten this note better right. So then I go what's better is it that the shape is it the 2D or 3D version of this is a the color or what screen are you looking at dishonoring on your phone or just better than last yet so I keep going I keep digging like an attorney, does it just keep going okay so what were how are you looking at what kind of just Opry on right now is the retina screen like mine or is it kind of the old school Dell what are you working on it's it's a computer so what kind of computer we working with I think it's a PC PC alright so we talking gateway from the 90s shall throw in a little shady joke like that so that gets their year like oh I didn't know the Roebling today but okay again and propped up on time I got you it's yes and if you want me to take over for the better questions while there is a well known the masque of this question my company gave it to me by the waves I can see your screen because we have the technology to be able to track that so yeah yeah if you want to look at boomerang for your emails to track if people open your emails that's a little helpful advice right there if you're sending contract via email which I don't recommend I did send them via doc you sign or some other cloud-based service like that it's worth it because it will send them a copy immediately after done on that ship but we use boomerang from Gmail so if if you guys want some to go it is Fokker actually open his email up it's like 15 bucks a month you can track the idea of it was starting with if they don't open or you can have a drop down if they don't open reply click or something else we actually read it it'll figure out if they read the email it will boomerang it back to them as a new email whatever today's whatever you want nice suits we actually save you a lot of time and if were efficient you break out doing your emails like throughout the day but you only send him they only go out is that the end of the day her stomach that don't ask this because in for a long time I was the only point of contact for my business and my clients is my clients is when clients – which I did you ever like your machine did you ever find yourself in a position where you're sending out a contract Eric and that you are like momentum built such a great relationship with this person I was the person who introduced him I got them all light wet and ready and now got hit with the legal document does that ever find your fine hesitation how to get past the barricade of crap I gotta get real with these people will so what were doing now law does all that Tillich that this part of that that I'm glad that I don't want to deal with that sort of thing because it is like no matter what the lawyers involved people just get weirdly getting tightened up if you don't know that person's like little man was that mean what is it me for later they train early recording you are now like what that sort of thing so I personally haven't had a lot of at least in this business was doing videographer you know I would get into the contracts and stuff little bit but that was all basically copy and pasted standard videography contract that I never bothered will, I mean I looked at it you know to make sure wasn't saying that we set ourselves on fire at the end of the night or something weird but you know it I never had a problem with it if the deal done sending a contract out I mean that's all the paperwork people usually build yet mutant and no one wants to really get lawyers involved I try to do my best to not with any of these but there's an old saying is like your contracts is only as good as it is specific right yes is a loose contract where you just go well the logos doing whenever it's done that's how you get boned on on the on the work side is the contractor so what do you what what advice would you give to someone who maybe has some downloaded contract from the Internet in order that don't ever do that for me that's the first in the graduate nursing anyone other than to go to like sums LegalZoom or some crank out not only goes over there in a little bit of contracts right so so go to LegalZoom to get your LLC started if he have done it that way right right that little zoom can be useful THE LEFT AND YOU'RE DOING I WROTE SOME I LIKE TO TALK TO GRADING AGREEMENT WRITING GENERIC DUMB TIME GENERIC WORK FOR HIRE CONTRACT FOR VIDEO GRAPHICS OR WHATEVER I'M OUT THERE I'VE GOT MY OWN LITTLE BUSINESS I JUST STARTED UP, AND I NEED A CONTRACT BECAUSE I GOT A CLIENT WHOSE IDEA YOU FIND THAT BUSINESS ATTORNEY AND YOU SEE IF YOU CAN KIND OF TRADE SERVICES WHAT OKAY SO WHAT COULD WHAT SHOULD A BUSINESS ATTORNEY GO AHEAD GO FOR FROM PAYING CASH AND WASH UP WHAT WOULD BUSINESS ATTORNEYS GO FOR FROM TRON TRADE SERVICE IT'S DIFFERENT EVERY STATE IS DEAFLY DIFFERENT IN SCOPE BUT FOR THIS EXAMPLE I'LL TRY TO SAY LIKE YOU KNOW IT'S WORTH BUT FEW GRANDBABY TO DO IT AND I THE WAY I DO A BURGER BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WE WORK WITH AND I TRY TO THAT YOU KNOW THE NURSE THERE IN THAT IMMATURE PHASES I CAUGHT UNDER THREE YEARS AS A BUSINESS JUSTICE YOU WERE ABOUT TO GET TO THAT THREE YEAR MARK IF WERE NOT ALREADY I DON'T KNOW WE TECHNICALLY STARTED BUT LET'S JUST SAY WERE THAT IMMATURE ZONE AS A BUSINESS AND I'D SAY OKAY ARE OUR RATES ARE HUNDRED AND 8650 AN HOUR YOURS IS AN ATTORNEY IS TWICE THAT SO WILL DO TWICE THE HOURS TO DO YOUR WEBSITE IF YOU HELP US DO CONTRACTS OR WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER WILL PAY FOR THAT WE FIGURE IT OUT BUT YOU KNOW WITH VIDEO AND ON THE MARKETING SIDE THAT COULD BE OF THAT CAN GO ON FOREVER TO MAKE UP FOR THAT AND THERE'S ALWAYS ATTORNEYS THAT NEED HELP WITH THAT TOO SO I WOULD SAY THAT SCENARIO THAT'S THE WAY I PLAY IT THAT'S KIND OF THE PRAGMATIC ADVICE THE REAL-LIFE ICE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT LIKE MY DAD WOULD GIVE HER SUPER CONSERVATIVE YOU KNOW JUST PAID FIND THAT ATTORNEY THAT IT'S AT THE YOUNGISH LEVEL NOT DON'T GO THE BIG FIRMS BECAUSE IT CAN BE SO EXPENSIVE DO THE ONES THAT YOU KNOW AROUND YOUR AGE THAT WILL DO IT BUT PAY YOUR FRIEND THAT'S A BUSINESS ATTORNEY COUPLE GRAND WHAT YOU NEED IS OPERATING AGREEMENTS YOU NEED YOUR LLC DECLARATION WHATEVER DOCS SO WHO HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE OR ON THE LLC WHO IS A MEMBER WHO'S A MANAGER'S MEMBER MANAGER AND THEN IF YOU DO ANY IT WILL AND STUFF WITH THE STATE SEE NEED TO GET STUFF DONE LIKE FEDERALLY STATE AND THEN YOU JUST NEED THIS CONTRACT STARTED DO NOT GO ONLINE TO GET IT BECAUSE YOU YOU BASICALLY YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THAT MINDSET IF YOU'RE GOING OFF ON TO FIND A TEMPLATE BUT YOU JUST WHAT WE JUST BACKTRACK TO YOU JUST MADE YOURSELF OPEN ENDED BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SET UP FOR YOU BUT THE WITH IT FULLY CREATIVE PEOPLE THEY'RE NOT INTO ADMIN STUFF LIKE THAT SHIRT AND IT'S LIKE THEY ALL WANT TO GO THAT WERE TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO GET IT DONE MOVE ON OR WHATEVER I TELL THAT CRATE A PERSON RIGHT NOW I'M TALKING SO NEW ON THE CLOSE MINDS AND TALK AND WRITE TO YOU RIGHT NOW I KNOW THAT FEELING YOU'LL ALWAYS STAY A FREELANCER ALWAYS ALWAYS BE A FREELANCER WILL NEVER GET OUT OF THAT HOLE YOU'LL NEVER GET TO THAT NEXT LEVEL IF YOU DON'T PUSH YOURSELF TO DOING THAT MINISTRY AND I'M SAYING THIS MYSELF THIS TIME AND I'M TAGGING ONTO THE YOU THAT'S HOW YOU LOSE $10,000 IN CONTRACTED BUSINESS IN YOUR FIRST ONE OR TWO YEARS EASILY THAT I'VE LOST MONEY BECAUSE THE CONTRACTS DIDN'T STATE CERTAIN THINGS AND BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT QUITE LITERALLY MY PAYMENTS EOB NOW LIKE FIVE GRAND AND GUYS LIKE WILL THE CONCERT WAS FOR 2500 MIKE YEAH BUT YOU KNOW YOU DID THIS HE DID THAT EXIST BUT THAT'S NOT IN THE CONTRACT YEAH BUT YOU KNOW I HEAR WHAT HE MEANS IS WITH US THAT THIS THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT YOU INTERPRETED AS BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT AND IT CAN'T FIND MY NEXT THING I THINK IS TO TURBOTAX OR CONTRACTS A LITTLE BIT YEAH I LOVE TURBOTAX I THINK WHAT THEY'VE DONE UNIT WHAT GO FRESH BUT DOESN'T SAY IT OUT LOUD NOW IT'S FINE FOR THE SAME THING FIRST BOOKS IS MORE PUBLIC HOUSING YEAH TURBERVILLE TAXES HIS TRIP TO CUBA KNOW I KNOW I AM GONE SO I USE TURBOTAX IS A REALLY IN AN LEGALZOOM TO A DEGREE OF THIS THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT IS TURBOTAX IS DONE THE BEST JOB OF TAKING WHAT SUPER COMPLICATED AND TAXES MAKING IT SO SIMPLIFIED THAT ANY BONUS AT THIS TABLE CAN DO ARE INTACT IT'S REALLY ANNOYING WHEN YOU SEE HOW MUCH THEY'VE SIMPLIFIED IT AND THEN YOU SEE THE PAPERWORK THAT THEY SPIT OUT A THING LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING ME LIKE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO FIGURE THAT OUT ON THEIR OWN EXACT WITHOUT THIS WHILE I LIKE THIS IS A TINFOIL HAT SO KNOCK IT AGAIN TO SAY LIKE EVERYTHING I HAD TO BE HARD YEAH FOR SURE NO ONE'S VIEWING PEOPLE IN A FIGHT THAT ACCOUNTANTS AND ACCOUNTANTS WANT THEY LIKE IT WANTED TO BE HARD SO BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEIR JOB AND THEIR ALLY WITH RIGHT SO EXACTLY SO SO MY THING IS LIKE HOW CAN I TURBOTAX ARE CONTRACTS OR CLIENTS UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON TO AND I THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GET TO EVENTUALLY IS LIKE SOME KIND OF INTERFACE MAY BE THROUGH TYPE FORMS OR INCOGNITO FORMS THAT YOU KNOW IT SPELLS IT OUT IN A VERY BASIC MANNER AND THEN HERE IS ACTUALLY THE LEGAL JARGON UNDERNEATH RIGHT NOW WILL BOTH KNOW THAT OUT THE HAVEN BUT LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST IS FAMILIAR WITH BUILDING THOSE KIND OF FORMS AND WANTS TO DO A LITTLE SWEAT EQUITY TRADE AND WHEN HELP US OUT WITH THAT TO ME WILL WORK ON YOUR MARKETING AND AND THINGS THAT NATURE AND YOU COULD HELP US, WITH THE WAY THAT WE CAN CREATE A UNIVERSAL CONTRACT THAT IS EASY ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE TO PLUG IN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND SPIT OUT A CONTRACT THAT WORKS WITH EVERYBODY I'LL GIVE YOU THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS WILL IT'S ALSO KNOW IT'S MORE ABOUT AND THEY WILL HELP MARKET THAT AND THEY WILL RESELL IT AND WILL BE A PART OF IT AND THAT WE MOVE ON FROM THERE IT'S PART OF THE BUT IS ALSO THE CLIENT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY SIGNED SOME OF THE TIME AND SO IT'S I DON'T WANT AN ITUNES TERMS AND AGREEMENT WERE WERE JUST TRYING TO GET HIM TO SCROLL THROUGH EVERYTHING AND CLICK YES I DON'T REALLY WANT THAT BECAUSE I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SIGNING TO BUT I CAN'T BUT YOU ALSO IT DOES NOT MATTER ALSO LIKE I CAN'T GO BACK AND GO OVER INDEMNIFICATION FOR AN HOUR WITH THAT BECAUSE I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY I CAN TELL YOU LIKE I DID I WAS BILLED NONATTORNEY I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON OUR PART WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAND OVER ANYTHING COPYWRITTEN THAT WE PUT OUT THERE THAT WE GIVE BACK TO YOU OR WE MARKET FOR YOU AND THEN WE GET BONED ON THAT WE GET SUED ON THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT ARE YOU ESPECIALLY HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL VIDEO IF YOU HAVE A STUFF LIKE OH YOU KNOW HAVE THESE CLIPS AND THIS THIS FOOTAGE FROM OUR LAST VIDEO LIKE ALL THOSE MACDONALDS CLEARLY PRESENT IN THIS VIDEO AND YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING IT'S A VIDEO AGAINST THE SAME BURGER GREASER IS A VEGETARIAN PUTTING VIDEO IN A BIG MAC FOR EXAMPLE YEAH BUT EXACT SHOT AGAIN JOHN JACOBS FF FF PRESENT MCDONALD'S LOGO ON HIS OUTLETS AS WELL OR DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT SON THAT CASE I UNITED BUT I I PERSONALLY CAN'T MISS IT I HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES AS A EAM AND PUT THIS UP THAT WAY BUT IF DONALD COMES AFTER YOU AND I DON'T HAVE A DAY YOU NEED TO PUT DOWN I HAVE THAT I GUESS I DON'T TRUST THAT ARE WE GOING TO SHUT THIS THING DOWN BECAUSE I'VE GOT A HEART OUT AND YOU GUYS HAVE GOT A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON ANY LAST WORDS BEFORE WE TELL PEOPLE SUBSCRIBE RATE REVIEW TELL A FRIEND TELL THAT LOVE ONE COWORKER ABOUT THIS PODCAST SEND US A MESSAGE IT'S NICE TO PEOPLE FITNESS UP THIS FILE IS NICE I WAS I GOT SOME LINKEDIN WERE TO DO MAILBAG TRY ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY GLOBAL NICE SO I GOT IF YOU WANT TO WRITE WHAT SHOULD MAKE THE EMAILS I ANSWER I ANSWER STUFF ON LINKEDIN ABOUT YOU THERE'S A THING CALLED BIKE GIVE PEOPLE ADVICE OR SUMMIT THAT AND SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY LIKES DEVICE HAVE BEEN GIVEN BUT THE CONDO ADVICE CORNER IF ONLY TO ANSWER THOSE IN THE INTERIM ON HERE AT LEAST ELISE WILL GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT IN THE MENTOR WERE BOTH WEARING THE SAME PANTS TODAY RANDOMLY YET IT LIKE THAT HELLO LEVANT THAT MET THE GIRL YOU SEE THAT NOT ALL AMERICANS WENT TO SICK GUYS AND ALSO BETWEEN TWO CIGARS WERE IN THE SAME PAN IT WILL OVERNIGHT IN THE SAME PAIR PAN WE WILL INCLUDE SEPARATE PAIRS OF PANTS THAT ARE THE SAME DESIGN WHATEVER NOT WALK AROUND THE DINNER KIND OF DAD ON KEYS I DID THE DEED IS NAVY BLUE WERE KIND OF THE DAD YEAH I GOT MY KIDS LIKE ROSEVILLE ATHLETIC BUT I'M COMFORTABLE AND SAME FAMILIES IN THE WEARING SWEATPANTS MY DADDY'S WERE HOSPITAL PENCILED ALL SCRUBS WHILE HAVE THE ULTIMATE DATA'S MOVE I MIGHT I MIGHT START ADOPTING A LITTLE IT WAS ETHEL'S COUNTY SCHOOL THAT I THAT'S IF I CAST FOR ERIC DAMIEN ON LAW AND OH INJURY OFF OFF CAMERA SUBSCRIBE RATE REVIEW COMMENT DO SOMETHING IF YOU DO A COMMENT YOU CAN TALK SHIPPED JUST AS LONG AS IT'S TRYING TO BE FUNNY THAT'S THAT YOU CAN TALK SHOW ABOUT US ON CARE BUT THIS TRY TO MAKE AWAY YES THAT'S IT FOR NOW YOU KNOW THAT YOU NOT IN THIS THING THREE PRESS THE RED BUTTON THE DRAGON IS LIGHTED RIGHT

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Your library life we live we are alive that's that's what I was talking to my how you feeling Eric I'm getting educators along yeah well man that all changes yeah I said before off Mike I unabashedly love fall out boy cure number 33-year-old man three great fumes you three yeah I count them as they come in but we got Joe Clay here how many cubes if you have any encryptions yeah this is how you intervene in but I don't have an Excel sheet relevant for your first question but Serbia tough interview okay you don't have an Excel sheet that 12 I don't know what you're doing here honestly our producer since it is up that's me okay were to talk some graphic design some animation workbench.tv is your website and that passion project to teach young ends how to do stuff let's do our sponsor for this podcast sweat equity pragmatic realistic business advice hustle interviews sometimes Eric and I should ship sometime noises Damien Baltasar 28 monkeys durable direction if you're watching a video which is on YouTube Facebook origin of just listening you'll just hear that sultry voice limb area yeah because once bona fide run iTunes prion pod bailed other things that just pull pull that audio automatically but for the demographic yeah it keeps its two white we had had a mess it up a little bit developed a Relevant hammer yes they were there Chuck Cameron so let's do our sponsors Grasshopper phones you got business right Joe is so business phone lines how may people you call and you're like is this the bizarre house number or is this there just their cell phone, never misses a rigid self as noted tell yet but a lot of people need to act bigger than they are need act mortgage and especially people doing startups you noticed you need to act professional that's what you need a second phone line how does knowing how to answer the phone I answer hello when I answer my phone if I have a business plan when will I felt myself some angry so grasshoppers and app you can have in your phone and it will give you different kind of screen so you know it's that that still your Verizon or AT&T line or whatever personal line is and it's a scalable phone option it's the entrepreneurs phone line our listeners get 50 bucks off if they use the link and will put this in the episode description it's a tried grasshopper.com/sweat try Grasshopper.com/sweat like he's sweat get nasty real sultry and he got to come up with a better example go for it boy right now my only other one they brought us wet so what nuts where the only two I got off top my head but off camera but not sweat and fumes really taking this good time an area I national business and let's get Eric's favorite part we got to get it officially started God Almighty that's how you officially start the podcast I like old-school radio call-in that start every program with your your call into signed like that much like if you go on workbenches YouTube channel you've got I see the thumbnails have your branding on everything in a similar fashion it's the same thing it just irritates it because it's I let her do it to get you ramped up yeah get me fired alive and have seen he is always good it's a it's a miracle it's a little cheesy it's legit oh yeah it's cheesy for sure it's like a old it's it we soon football it's an old it's an old missing Ole Miss football that they have the hottie toddy I don't I don't know what it means it was in our fraternity we had some kind of chant like that just my opinion on its pleasant change yeah I know I'm not hoping or if anything all those reasons are just making it better for pay out I'll switch if I can find some better just like we talk about writing copy or brand name like companies and name a lot of friends and stuff I got a lady you got me at my jokes in the room it's a 7/10 you gotta beat it in the in the writers room what's going on I'm glad you're on the podcast it's a little hectic throw out this you that everything is throw out all your your handles for for the people Instagram all that stuff usually workbench TV I think on Instagram were no twitters workbench_TV because there's some weird Canadian like workbench DIY program that's got that yet and when you search for the workbench are getting a lot of workbench tutorials how to make a workbench, then silly little dancer putting my graphic designer put in animation tutorial now you want tutorial though it is graphic design animation motion okay it's want to clarify everything Eric did a lot of research before names I told him I intentionally don't do research so I can ask the questions of people when we actually do that on purpose because with Alexa just because he's lazy we will follow me, shut it gave me hope it can be both work well for both suit and tell me about a wide you started what is it you know give me the who what when where why all that well first I was having, slow year click two years ago my main business builder party so would you like graphics animation production all the stuff and so I was like you know it is time to come to share some of my knowledge the people himself I wanted to like a long time ago there's like some people to restart noun is like a man I could do that you know you have and just at the time is like I didn't have the time to do it and that just wasn't the right time I guess for it and there's all this like beginner stuff that didn't exist when I'd started so, what I wanted to do but then all of the market, filled up and do that so I figured I just start to make more advanced tutorials that for the stuff that I'd want to see that was another interesting it's like the Tyco's telling Damien something about they should be doing a podcast similar to this is nothing like two years ago I was telling yeah more as a recruiting tool I think to get younger people to follow over and then you can maybe you develop a relationship with some of these people that are into it but that's that's interesting how that kind of parallel thinking happened and were not even what 7 miles away were your in South Tampa right will assimilate no head of the murder of the murder capital your my hood yeah that's what I was just pitching about trying to sell our house and buy a new one contingent on a stone house that serial killer just the light went on your day 35 grand on the house price so that you will yeah I mean obviously it sucks but it's also kind of interesting way it's like here like Ford motors the news and like that's like not even a weekend in Chicago I'll try to keep a rant pretty quick but but I did journalism this twofold why this was a disaster of an investigation a the the churlish function should be they should be ashamed of themselves they should be flocking there should be some kind of punishment for them for sensationalizing this made it five times worse than it needed to be they called a serial killer before it is technically a serial killer I think I need is a take three I think thickly three I think I got back I go with the major league and the hum of the the speech is all going okay right three that's a winning streak or a heart attack that's my role at least and it was just at when they had to kills it was just a bus stop that was similar that was it to so you really move around MO yet there's no end there is no like he left the pentagram is yet you have all the fun puzzles and things that they normally leave around for the cops just to do that's a sociopath I bet he was on pipette there's some pharmaceutical involvement I think I bet opiates because that does change your brain chemistry anyway were getting down to a sloppy road the other part of that is PR will this all will come back and into the fold PR date the Police Department dictated this message so poorly that they just kept leaving it open ended like they wanted to write a TV show on it like they were like the truth either this guy on video he's he's either doing a job he's either Jazzercise and through the neighborhood like gave this like ridiculous in areas like or use a similar white skin is like why did you do press conference of this like this makes no sense real quick I just think that your audience is probably China figure at this moment how drugs opiates and graphic design are all gonna come back together that's the magic of me all dovetail back because my eyebrow went straight up like Dragon like what good your voice of the people today that so as to do dictating your message right I think chosen a good job of that type I went through and all I went back in your catalog before he started his I want to see what it looked like in the beginning you channel the reason we start talking is like you did a humble pride post like hey we get 10,000 subscribers on site ownership I his armor looking out a while ago and knows that this is really cool I on the fly have to do a lot of graphic design stuff like smaller stuff so I can send it to a good designer like and you are Damien really do it I'll get the concept down but sometimes I said I need tutorials and you can burn funk and hours trying to find like a good stuff and know it's learning how to do some more reading about earlier today the just how to take a logo make a white me like I have is like I was trying to do this for a while and then I looked it was like a minute video as I just change that utilized the site that is it in Photoshop okay media that's what is yeah said you'll never make it at the end. But so it dovetails back is your your your creating a brand through this on a passion project not too dissimilar from what were trying to do with this podcast a little bit were you know we don't know what's in a come of it we'd like should initiate and talk a little business gazettes mainly were any if I went to a dinner party the conversation would somehow get over there anyway which my wife hates but somehow yet your business is life that will mean it's in a lot of it's a small medium business that's life no for a lot of business owner Damien over there look it's it consumes everything his wife's business owner to it's it's a lot in your conversation because sometimes you can come and go help oh you should be doing this this and this is his wife the bad stylus jingo oh you should do you with the shellac nails you should get some Moroccan oil put in the hair yeah I know my hair stuff good her words meant that I was in the salon industry man I know about you want to start slowing off talking I'll rip that ship how did I know price per square foot I know any chairs you need I know the commission rates all that ship you should put a runway in their red carpet so after they're done you look in your eye right now I'm excited to start here decided what that Ceará will try to record the safety and this is interprofessional now we know as I was attempting Internet database yet and it's bad love aggregates artifacting and freezing so there sometimes at your max and drumming out for the lands headroom the show for everybody who is not born after 1990 something to do that hacked into the TV station was that no Max Headroom is I don't know what it is like the Nobel Pepsi commercial guy like accent room that was that roof that yeah they did there was something that that you guys look like Chicago yes somebody like contacting the local TV stand here but there was a mass I got SSRI so yes you got pretty much right there looks okay on the prowl for knowing that random reason hello good underwriters distributes up parcels of the will they also admit Noblesville spoofed it in back to the future when the Ronald Reagan got up and like I run away and they did the whole little thing when we first goes into the future Café I to retro Café yeah, some random kid in there I think assault not too long ago the thing with Elijah when Elijah wasn't out yet and had the arcade ghetto yeah we're having your hands yeah that's the fun part I like watching old movies over again is really out hey that's that guy that I know forgot about. He made it will happen the guy next to him that he didn't suck Kirsten Dunst and Jumanji the day about 10 years whatever it is we know the old and the kanji will swear to say we'll just see the new one they just shrug her down I fulfill I will was cheaper to buy on Amazon for the kids want the original data bungee things like how I got it is what I like a lot in it yeah yeah whatever is not to give up because while it is when the like where's the rock I heard one of the Kevin Hart I heard it's really good actually it is is it you saw kids note no need for kids to watch but herself has caring community, is that redhead from a Doctor Who and also plays Gomorrah and battles of cardiology or some parties I guess she's the blue haired blue chick in guarding the value of the really like the sister nebula sorry nebulae yeah yeah that's it that's conflicted Gavin, hot redhead I'm not into redhead sorry I decide not to ginger kinda guy no fence so my thing, I'm too pale or too dark something about and I hear you if you talk too much so that's what character can't say to the dark why is it just to play it safe I say to paling is that you Darnell you can't that's legal is able to kill I thought this is not telling you I know what I find my wiener gets a Boner for certain things like open you up here right this is not a PC show by any means so and I'm not anything terrible I don't say I'm hating anybody just the wiener wants with the wind once it's okay can you be more click here if you're in the DVD AA like that's your yesterday Outlook might might my wife is ill or find me trying to double in my wife is her, she's like some light bright and damn near white so I don't know what I thought about her hellos and then some. BII can't learn all these acronyms and what you're talking about is a real test for one and were shoehorning here to talk about Dixon balls for 15 minutes now that I thought of it like that with you Dick and balls that he instinctively meals back-and-forth that we will try to edit this psychologist Dick and balls in business that duplicates the goal and maybe a spinoff it works for me like member shoehorning this Internet and a very hectic day Eric's a little stressed as a my is finding serenity that's my nonstress time yeah this is the fight this is gone silly topics yeah that's what we have yoga mats and ship over there and I want to get a funky punching bag thank you we can hang one thing let me think yes anymore Justice just bagged 30 seconds just if I can punch something I thought I think it be cathartic to a definite yes drive-by punch what you got all that stuff is just one Pam okay I feel better now that you like a speed bag and it was good closer it got hit on a nice thought of that those are so noisy it's true that these guys next to a city record will I can hear light them on a conference call behind us so it's you know the walls are thin already use that glass to the wall technique Yahoo that there can hear everything I just take a ceiling tile and Dragon leave eight trying to take all day son all day will do that with this I I have a couple pointers like that that it wrote down Wells Fargo not currently sponsored by Dragon dictate I'm in love Dragon dictate I've got no qualms about it there not a sponsor we just want to give out good things that are good you know good things that are good yeah it makes a wedding but it works good with use mu.com is reporting stuff that's a good thing that's good man log got all his own pilot that I write you down for the next day you really think so don't worry I will be in the show notes in the blog post I forget to put up Jonah 2 yeah I know one thing when asked about we just a tinfoil hat podcast which is conspiracy theory podcast Assam Tripoli the Gotland listeners but also like crazy listeners and Eric and I've been looking through the comments independent of each other talking about it we both went through all floors and ice just got forward one night start answering a bunch of find him and I was looking at yours and theirs so me people whining about like this is to know can you slow it down it's like beachfront composite like pause the video it's in the video tutorial positive actually had some people tell me before like a long time and I like one commenter lowers like that that YouTube is a feature really slow down the video I was disabled I do have speed summary three was likely a watch of it is only capturing the mounding of native English speakers ligaments address you can write something like the next slick person that said that to me obviously just like that we could watch and we have to be you podcast it has to be nobody sounds like I do not accident a lot like that but no pill what I'm I'm talking more one I hope yeah what have is that there was a loud ITS wrong how might this pleases inkwell is that purple drink what's the weirdest thing that's come out of you doing this you been doing for two years passion project side project kinda like I am guessing it's similar because we did this because it's like I got some to say about I got all this information I feel like and I like I like giving advice to people that don't ask for credit but I also like interviewing people right like heaven old buddies come in industries initiate what's what's we're think about it comments or weird messages are you know any that I think that's interesting that you come around the world people are using it which is I saw you had some kind of French translation may be on one of them oh that there was a guy that had done it to tour… Were Willie did it before I did I didn't know existed some bills told me about it so was in French so thankfully had taken some French I was able to figure out what he did 09 there's a better version of something I did so I incorporate that into the download for no I think that's cool I mean we talk about you know a lot of the stuff are doing like, Jesus did like the universal language or saying anything so work or start to think of everything in the context of life right how can we make a little bit more global it's not a much more effort you know but you're at your tutorials you don't really need the audio right sometimes you do but it's harder I'd say probably only because I don't do step-by-step so I can escape a lot of things if you're not in aftereffects user like like a beginner's like I really get all of the things I'm doing usually yeah but in its and is a narrow audience on yeah if you're if you're advanced enough you could probably pick up some stuff sometimes I don't really explain what things are exactly like a minute settings guide I hate when people just while circular all the time I get like reels from people or whatever different ways that worked and it's like okay like I copied a tutorial like I did this like he doesn't know what he is doing disease is not taking the thing in advancing it is just taking something with wheels did in presenting that it in a different way that the zoning assigned something so everybody have all like this you guys have to collaborate so much with other video production companies animation Studios whatever so you when you're getting a file all the default settings are all wacky or they have a way of doing stuff isn't notices its world people present in the work like the stuff that I see from people like you can pick out if you've seen like there's a huge guide video copilot Andrew Kramer he does like these just crazy tutorials only in you see his stuff and people real-time like this is this likely presented to like it is my work on it no that's not yours you know they are doing the tutorial and then think about it and what the rent because they technically did it place I used to work at where the creative director was asking us I mean this happens everywhere I've seen other people tell the same story but basically Craig Dir. comes in is okay we just think of these these people you looking to hire somebody and then it's like well that's an inter-grammar tutorial so and it soon as that happened in the in the Place I was at initially took the DVD's of that long ago of the computer and just throw trash like that is immediately is like no well he sent whelming to the Google reversed something searched I know that was another I know that prevalent like I figured like I figured like the stand-up comedy community were like if you steal jokes basically what that like a child will not exactly stolen like it's like if somebody well I mean I guess in common it's a little different because in comedy the punch line is always the portal and there's not really like however you'd tell it it changing what it's knowing that it's it's it's a very similar because you can have a premise right that is only unique to that person right that's how a lot of these guys get caught one thing is what people think is that they can go off and tell the joke differently and that that's a different thing right but so it is the same but I'm saying it's same and different yeah and calmly they get way more like shut down on doing and in our world it's more like older, did something a little different than that you know it's it's knock down yeah little bit it's all because you have to you your iterations count and yours were czars are just like you just building to something where there are whiffs of tartar comics you know you you're working on a bit to make it tight where is Joel's final thing if you like the graphic designer for lack of a better term like graphic design community they they like seeing the iterations in the process allow the touch her right the flip if I can chime in one of the main thing especially if the just a little advice anybody out there who is doing things that they know they have Andrew Kramer or whatever other tutorials out there you're more than welcome to take that material learned from it do it and then do something as simple as go and shoot your own footage and do the same affect on your own footage and lease that shows that you an instant how to apply the effect and I think that that's when the main things that I specimen graphic designers come and play it's almost similar as someone you know what happens in music and as you have is a lot of industry people in music and she liked it might be McNally actually got like five samples and three loops that already came with the package you didn't really create anything unique you may have rearranged a slightly different but yet totally understand what that means is mean and that's and it's a it happens most special and new budding graphic artist they they that's their education they know they get it from from online and they start hot expand upon and I think that's one of the bigger things that I think on that it's overlooked even Andrew Kramer and yourselves on strong workbench always pushing people to go I go take this and apply to your project at least let me see it in an application as opposed to just being quite literally it's the exact same effect that's partly to why I'll get some complaints were once lowered some is like okay you show me from the beginning or what did you do for this waiver unless a click of a really important setting American go often and say yeah okay the setting is 50 for this in 20 for that because then you're not learning how to use it and the point is to take what I make and expand upon it that's kind like us to watch tutorials nowadays like some else comes up something interesting even if it's something I know like a lot of times if I have some down time I watch it because sometimes I'll pick up a little piece of something that they didn't like I didn't even do that were in a like whatever like because even if you're the meekest person you know you still have some no insight in the shirt or something sure no I died I think that's what YouTube is really great for is I that we learn we have to use all the time because it's stay here will they know and we handle so many different services you know so it's like it's yes there is regular green fire you didn't know like you know what you would've heard outside of work and stuff like your at your house like oh okay this like peace in my toilet broke what do I do to fix that and some is like hey here's this exact model of toilet this is the handle that nicotine elixirs like we manage the stuff that we may sketch were very proud about that we didn't put much behind it but we made a sketch like how to be a man sketch toilet because we grew up in this era were like were not handy and definitely and almost embarrassingly have to look up how like how to properly spell your dad or something will you try it first and you break everything and then go back how to feel that you were slightly taken apart and you break the thing that you need you like oh now I know how this works but it's broken every time and then yeah wife pitches at you in this like an okay I won't buy a new one but liked on the figure this out (about what does it mean Adobe After Effects seems like it's like limitless units potential for manipulation sort of thing and Eric actually Eric's videoconference my ex-wife just to give an ex-wife really don't have fever and ex-wife chose man I got Jesus Christ lately ever life will relive IK wow not look I was looking at your site Joe and I looked at the blog and it was like literally the first sentence I'm lost I can't like I thought about looking in the video graphic design stuff and then it was like five minutes and I was like no I can't do this is this is a lament different there there are some simple stuff that that last post is actually kind of comforted okay no known stones pretty computer at a time on number format yeah things okay okay looks really because for some reason I don't know why saw a lot of stuff I do like programming related and as I used to do some of that and what's what's annoyed me about aftereffect sometimes there sometimes like functions in it that you need that you don't have the better like a single function in another language like number format like PHP which is that some bad a lot of stuff in it's like number format this number you go in it is outlining a number with buildings in it yet although Prelude met here you'd like at least as far as I know maybe it's in there somewhere I don't know but like I had actually reverse engineer how to build that junction was on St. like even you you're making these videos you know what you're doing and you have to go reverse engineer Samuel sometimes I have to learn stuff and some you know like other times there's people way smarter than me that figure out things to yeah yeah problem-solving at the end of the day it's it it's really a similar process am sure to for figuring out any difficult process problem whatever that's why life like trying to do stuff that's outside my zone to help that problem so as as you grow to yeah because it all go okay watching this tutorial on how to do grout for my tile actually what subconsciously helps me figure out how to use software in reverse engineer from there or apply I need that grout fresh fresh and flush against the tile just like we need this design to be flush just you know for whatever reason it will help me contextualize a lot and want to learn it as a man you'll throw that info out as soon as you can know God yes now I grab you guys especially to some other guy is just as many of the applicant been an expert in it oh yeah I own a trial business for last year hashtag that God did all day yeah now if I more if I'm doing the middle the night I'm just by myself like just listen to podcasts just like this Friday night when doing more hundred percent on the posted lightly what I do you guys suggest feels like that old little Simpson joker were like Marge's learning piano just like it just teaching piano 2 inches like I said that they wanted 11 lesson ahead of the kids basically like what is I feel like that's a lot of a lot of management nowadays just because were to spread out just, everything so segmented fragmented out from a management standpoint discussed the Internet box with everybody's head there's too much school stuff out trying to think of the worst a recorded voice and I said I lost applying as live video interrupted that's fine whatever the reason I'm going to yeah that's what the producer does sit here and inform you of the situation will we may have one coming up later following her over there. You write it only to close over there like putting together yeah the tubes are it's me know it's not a will and do it I understand I'm I'm in the process of trying to get it to the point we get used to having this kind of a situation on the backend because I would love for this Texaco no ocean here behind the classroom went to the roof to have the talent just me on how we piping in your earphones always like yeah Robert quivers out further like they're doing that thing are you just part echoing what he said but just like a live fraction of a second later so messily break their people audiences love that audiences love the audio that Don is a doubles okay get my children but all in all that's that's the worst in Prague a Mother's Day gift or gift if the copy the person right in front of you it's like a warm-up game and my this is this is the worst okay yeah that's what kids do the focal me yeah this did not touch you yeah putting it free country brought Jeffrey country free country that means on the deck he said it's a free country never push you yeah anything about that free country pitch right to bear arms my power arms whether or not I will yard and drumming is working on that how I was going for the dead pine thousand and although I was just trying to get all the way to bear arms basically I said I queued up for five minutes oh yeah oh yeah I got an offer one day the full circle with all the others are talking live earlier should do my daily diary touch back to it as you have wakes up and set beforehand like your you to say it oh well like way way before you worry in this weird phrase and see if I can sell it won't last year my New Year's resolution was to say Kirsty more and so I think I've done a good job and it's in the lexicon outside of the poor said that like three or four times a been here in a good because it's now it's woven into my vernacular it is the Meebo was named earthy yeah yeah you need to name it something so why not maybe together looks like McCarthy it does I cancel the slogan for this podcast should be good with the advice I think but I think you get a totally different audience sweat equity well after the pragmatic but pragmatic girth he advises that case went by the movie so what tell us what tell us about the industry what's going on how about this habit give advice 10 years younger you that wanted to get into this time travel give advice yourself for you or you just taught given advice to classrooms read really start learn is the start of the environmental I've probably stolen from somebody am sure but now it's it's parallel theory like Seth Godin noon ship and or was really a look at things just start now we don't listen we don't listen to those those Silicon Valley anticancer types that are those higher up business guys that's why we created this actually one like anti-Tim Ferris here so your maybe you can't like it everything you one like for exactly that's about it seriously a decent anointment it also goes or I listen to all the software podcasting to be like or I just get like seven of your friends that are billionaires then you sit know why commentator conference room and wrote a book on how to manage her $80,000 a month pharmaceutical business yeah thanks for the advice Tim swing five people's likelihood is make a product yeah okay which one tell me so this that's why I go so specific and like mu.com reference or some like that because there is it it sounds jilted sometimes but it it it I heard Colin Quinn say's specificity is the language of the universal wrote that down and remembered it I really like that because I feel like my the way I look at comedy and a lot of the communication and language I try to be overly specific unnecessarily because it's kind of funny or sometimes but I do that sometimes even workbench doctors yeah yeah it's fun what so just start now you have the motivation to do it my my first thing I know I know nothing about how to start to want to be this kind of artist I would say I tried to find like a Mashable class or something get that bait Linda Gladden limit as far as I can as a prism I'm thinking I'm thinking of when I was when I had this mindset to do workbench stuff right I was like I was Artie kind of in it and I'm thinking like the time is whenever you have it in the lake it's now right right yeah it's an appendage to what you're doing already like this podcast is timing cost-effective and it's a good way to get her voice out and literally don't have to spend that many hours a week or so it's not and it's fine so it's not that bad and I'm sure when you start seeing results of people, subscribing that's when it kind of felt fun you know effluent is the first part of doing like some kind of like content strategy like this even if it's not like focused on making money anything it it's that thing of like your print out there for a while lit and unless you have a big budget to put add money or some it's just to be like I am sending us 100 views that are under a message in a bottle for me to do with how it is I started as I started action video instead of YouTube so I started putting stuff up on there and I'm like very cool and it actually got a decent amount of use I know what the deal is with that but just didn't feel like the right type of place I've made a suggestion to go to me I was acting as an Internet for me on the hooves man they just bought that camera company live stream mix bottom out they want to be the third player now and is Facebook's down number two I think video rights which might be three I don't know but as far as like like not watching video games video some places blows my mind that it could be threatened if I can blows my life that is fine. It's insane kids these days that they're actually good about people doing leave and start unit is random stuff and which like all sorts of stuff like I said I have these very very Blake takes on different things and YouTube and like you know if a 3YI like when I went to censor yourself you will hear psychotic artist to its anatomy and I mean like a wimp or hoax everyone yeah me that all porn set yeah okay everything is nothing here that I was kind yeah that's in a separate graphic video right here in your normal everyday you know what are your you're like nine you know yeah yeah whatever yeah so that's what else is on twitch there's a there's people like I watched the granted I don't want to let stuff on twitch by know they have switch usually watching on YouTube because I'm older I guess I will and I'm not there at like 6 o'clock when people doing things like you do that I watch that does he make things this child hold I like to make stuff so he does switch dreams and stuff and then there's a guy that does like these prop making things like reprints and phone stuff and that's punish props and he does stuff on there as well though at times catch people's live stream stuff later on but I'm not on twitch watching it but it's a content that was generated therein so you go on YouTube to go to twitch one I'm usually usually people posting a shortened version of it let Mrs. know I'm scribbling literally hours I don't usually have three hours worth the time to yet we but we will sit there and we were trying to figure out a process to there's I think I will be asked if we start using that as a live broadcasting software we like that the Meebo camera supposed to be able to get you on a few streams at a time but they have some weird thing were like you can either do Facebook live only or you can do YouTube and and for me at the same time and so it's like okay but you know ideally you want to have the video up on all three I say but nobody like do not take checking YouTube and DiMeo like to check Facebook so going live on Facebook makes we don't sense but remember we just a tinfoil hat and they get us in every time like I subscribed a workbench their channel every time you post the video I get an email notification right under the Rome open accidentally you're in you're more like this easily on Facebook more people you check that will always me taking were not going on for me oh to see what's new on mimeo for me as a profession where it makes sense for that it makes sense for I know the half of what we talked about as a hard very unlimited in the way it was like I feel like that's for finished work that's like how it feels but maybe that's all you survey it has to be like cures like real professional video they are naturally separate themselves from my main business stuff is like my main actual company workers on their W a means I would if I'm right now playing armchair quarterback I'd say just make just take everything you've done on that channel and just uploaded to mimeo and it's all good with the keywords and all that stuff all that stuff helps in the e-learning thing is really what they're focusing on so like premium premium subscription model stuff that happens that that like a FC that come along that I don't want people have to like pay for things unless it's specific like is there a subscription that people can just like sign up to look at YouTube rather than go to Freeman the freemium strategy which is a lot of apps do it right so you you get a nap it's free but like to really use it you gotta pay for box or whatever it is it hey it's the same thing the podcast or starting your concern see that a lot more Sam Tripoli was telling us he does bonus content and then for anybody that does patriot on donations which I guess is I saw a PayPal button on yours yet I could have paid his patrons way better now for one reason that such a good think of do as I feel like sometimes my patron I struggle actually like get like the word tears and stuff done just just because a lot of times Kleinwort comes in and then I have to do that yeah I mean I told John Jacobs who was on tinfoil podcast just had a album come out I was like look you want organic an organic strategy it's a little corny but you should anybody buys your album and they screenshot it send it to you should freestyle the name on my Facebook live people love that and they would share it it would get the help on that on their in is not doing what you know comedian I didn't follow through his own doubts deftly done to look like that, like wind over the old spice was doing the the old spice guy was like showing out people like 10 years ago but oh yeah, that if you like you can tweet to my thing at a time and like everyone so I like you they pick somebody and they had him dutifully 24 hours me like that like customize videos toward little pieces it's it's okay could you do this in the whatever production team I don't know they must have liked some just a team stuff oh yeah he was that they like pop it out like immediately oh that pride was the program when I was like people like had specific supplicating to do a video would like a toothbrush in a workmanlike like a 24 hour film fest but it was like only a guy in Terry Cruz knows the Isaiah Mustapha order when you know the other guys after right is right I told him to get rid of commitment I know I'm with you I should to double back in? This is like what I guess try to think which way to go with this what you want to do with this like what you what are you getting out of having this channel I think I I would see that is like you can look at it like a freemium model like like you're doing right eventually you're gonna want to try to get something financially out of it may be direct or indirect is that'll make it better yeah I mean so right now I kind of it's kind of somewhat of a vehicle for other things I have like it like the products inscriptions in the cell and molecular stuff but at the same time a muscle thinking of doing more like specific tutorial play groupings so where is right now making all the tutorials and I'm never to stop doing those free leases far as I can right now but those will always be there you know but the other something of like an actual like a tutorial series or some like that where it actually I can sell that as a unit yeah that's way single tutorial probably not get sold but I mean Jill one specific thing with 10 different managers showing everything they need to know is it so there goes all those anymore I ran those be more from the ground up versus my normal like here's the thing we have to either later this I do and that's it you know little bit more basic stuff you talk about what had not even that exactly basic but like I say it with one of the one something of doing his expression tutorial or expression series and I'm thinking of doing that to where we start from the beginning and it goes in a more like programming in depth like here's what you would do this and whatever you know versus like hey this is cool affect saga expression as this is like a snippet of code and aftereffects that you can use it to like run other things basically like to thank you for telling love with you like Eric got it the only link things together or dynamiting bitcoin what I wish I've missed out on that pretty heavily it's kind of like you can take some have liked for controls of you can bring up your own control to control multiple layers of different things there really powerful you do a lot of stuff with it that's kind of convert topic to actually specifically explain and like one now how do better under five cents IR Inc. in your elevator and yeah write it up yet what I mean that's why we this is the podcasts good you can kinda take the time to explain something that's a little confusing that's why you're doing these videos it's it's hard to I we do video for almost everything now like I don't want to do any phone calls with clients because this is so much visual stuff and it's like now now let's do phone I'll go now let's just reschedule it because it's not you can try to explain to me like guess some things in the talking like this create a ruling, is to help you, Howdy pixels we talk about the early pixels right well you know never that, that's the measurement you use pocket pocket five it is these things up there on what you like to now turn on speaking of in the camera like so I also production stuff and having having those around my house is great but then I'm watching the dictatorial and like color grading and that she's talking to me like what you talking I like the this morning I was watching something about collaborating in and she's like okay so were to repair this thing like prepare what are you talking about I turn mine off yeah it's it's hard my kids see the file, change the names of the notes I can think of something else like Beyoncé my uncle had ever detached his door from it because people if you can eat if you are outside you said open deluxe open Gloriana jet open a door ceiling again, and detach the snow yet he has his whole house Morehouse hooked up to the Lexan problem was that he was a humongous queue society like let's open the door and open the door from the thought of Isaac this is not good now you baby girl it's been well hey baby girl.you doing about I can't believe it took this long to get keyless entry door houses like what we had our car for 15 years I said I go for the stupid metal key in my house, I agree right but always late and I think always get the one like we've got technologies in a failure at some point so get the analog, you can always put the key and if you need to that we have a thumbprint one fingerprint one and I'm like this thing to break I want something that hasn't punch code I thought finger print and then also an addict glory hole for your key because that's my theory with all like that, smart home stuff if I can't turn on the lights physically that I don't want to have a yeah my app to do it. Let's carry I could I feel like I have bad luck with a lot of stuff to do and it'll break down and the moment you need it the most have had that happen to me a couple times were used have a wink that was controlling stuff. It's a hub okay it's like all the other that she went had Home Depot to get like loud laugh I do since then live in Like that I'll actually have since been able to put that into my Phillips you set up which is nice that works like instantly and great but the week one would like fail at random times and latency for the morning like a camera to go to sleep a good turn off lights and it just doesn't yeah like okay great I like the power goes off and for some reason it set to automatically like turn them on slick power is off you I do like I do like this I use I have TTT for a lot of that and I do we have the Phillips you in our place for a few lights and I like I like that it will turn the lights red if there's like a smoke detector goes off were there or something like that you take in warmth or chicken gas station chicken warm bread whatever fried chicken we have laying around it interests automatically turn to that that this martyrdom stuff scares me that it's kind of why we I don't have one of the any of the voice activated things at her house I'm fine with that here is God knows what she thinks we talk about in this room when the vice will verify the calyx profile please yeah know they got a dossier on is what I mean they can't really advertise to us because it's so were so random over the paragraph and I don't think they did like in one sentence will talk about Lexi sleep that what is sensory deprivation tank and like great cubes you know that's going to call that guy's attached is a business that is how far we in here what's the minute count for producer think we gotta wrap it up in the minutes or something here that tells you that Jesus go to the letter sounds like you're done and I think we started at, 20 I think were 45 ends up 40 minutes boom I found it any advice just made that up like that fixed it if you any advice you want to give out there anything short you want to throw out there that I didn't pre-ask you what you want to talk about like a good host would anything in your industry any or reduce pitch about some if you want me like I said before tubes copying people that's a big thing you know I feel like there's a lot of people that just some kids like it because my wife the teacher right so a lot of times the the there is the you get like the two groups I feel like now there's like kids that really want to learn something in there like driven to you know do whatever and then you are, I guess is probably true of all generations but in whatever way I see now being old 34-year-old so if your you have these other people that basically want to been given to them now like and if I feel it's a little bit more than when I was a kid probably because when I was a kid he had let go to an encyclopedia or you know whatever the lake gets information and now it's just like people just like old you didn't tell me exactly how to do it you know and and I've that's kind of what my tutorials are kind of geared to not do look, I want to know the reason though because I think it's frustrating to double back when you're in the middle of that right now the reason is that you learn one way and the other way you don't learn like if you you either learn how to get information or you learn how to like figure out how to get information so you think the speed that common I saw was like why can't you tell might slow it down and no break everything down you think more Darwinism like that's just half sometimes as people are people that are learning in on their there just new to it they don't understand the people that leave comments now is the final test this I don't know the board laying out three comments on YouTube his comments on YouTube narcissistic I had to read the ones were never on arms at every site I think a reply to pretty much everybody I replied nicely and the guy the try to accuse me of actually like stealing some else's tutorial or something 1000 interesting where is basically just like okay so people can have the same idea that's not loud apparently and I'm supposed to know what everybody else in the tutorial spaces that were occasionally has some data set this is my reply was like okay will assuming I stole this one what about the other like 70 done at that time right what about that that the other guy 70 guys like was like people commenting on when I did like 60 back or something like what okay they probably saw one the copied of you that I think you got it okay yeah I've had comedian still my material and I don't there's not much you can do about it except confront them but usually I they die out anyway yeah and I don't I'm not worried about it and now lives I've seen people that are basically like within a few days posted to the world that similar to mine is different enough or whatever but I'm like I don't care yeah yeah it's funny to read their comment silicone man you're the only person on YouTube doing the stuff it's like that's funny because I get that sink in a comment like Virgo that we had people accusing us or throwing up illuminati gang signs during the podcast address like that the likely like that I don't know I don't know really what I was reading a lot of the stuff left will follow to us, like I'm not big on social justice stuff obviously got really a thing whatever but anyway yeah one thing is really feeling all right one thing is funny is that you said you see the thing if you were doing this like okay oh will do everything under the now everything I know it looks like wipeout like they like so some of the people that were like in this thing we visited a watch on YouTube is his name is that somehow it all okay humble some black eye and a couple other people like any work you really did like this like dealer's like the slick white power thing is like a joke you know like and but they got it like actually get news on it like you were calling this like some kind of whites only making the symbol the index after the other three fingers up yeah you don't want to lick you the okay dive symbol you know like that okay Moji just turns out that yeah the other for the penal perfect whatever but I thought you're going to go on the one is the game that came back from our middle school early high school days is you can take the okay you put it on your thigh whatever Melissa has people your bell ever if someone looks at it get to punch in the stupid ship I never initially combine that together it's dark back like Smirnov whatever the kneeling Smirnov nice that I went back to its back than the national championship photo of Alabama one guy was for the players is doing it which is where ever he that's like an 18-year-old kid doesn't know at school if all right dad I think it's funny there's a people doing it I don't have a type of super professional meeting at the White House meeting people there to have fun it that I mean it's funny but you know all I fall is like 50 or barstool sports like Friday old room science Yep again I got a question so how do you manage expectations for some of the new artist that you meet as far as getting into the industry I don't think it's really think people have a lot of like doom and gloom unlike other semi people doing it whatever but there's not so many good people so like a lot of times that I am trying to get in I get I get a lot of work coming in and then I have nobody to farm it to know because a lot of times it's just there's nobody good around you know you just have to be like like hone your skills don't just say oh well I don't use aftereffect so here you go you know like you can't really have the idea that people should just be giving you money you know and in you just have to kind of like just like learners that you know you cannot sit there and after effects and like yeah or wherever programmer using phenolics and their actually actively learning and experimenting and that you're not really gonna grow to the level that you working late you know get extra work and stuff you know because otherwise you're just doing whatever belts does so you're just taking that basil yeah you know it's obvious it's a prerequisite that you know this program in order to make stuff but you need to like work on it more in order to learn things about it have talent you deftly need talent yeah I mean yeah I have an eye for the best person is or talented enough you there's nothing I'm on called the mow grass like whatever it's hashtag motion design.com and that's there's a lot of like people hanging out in there and sharing knowledge about different things and I feel like I've got a lot of stuff no just from them and just you know people have liked met online you know it okay want to do this work and sometimes even people send me an idea for tutorial that way okay I don't do tutorials but you and I can do whatever and I shot a mountain I can assure what they have so I think I think you need to get I saw that you've added yourself in the beginning of as intro I think Geico picture-in-picture have your your you countries to shot you are doing it sure, then I get that I get the problem of well I do like cuts because I'm try to keep them short so that was my other goal when I first heard it was like really keeping him shortly I got tired of twirl that like 40 minutes long in the show like the same thing also in three minutes notes like Goldmine the cuts are thinking on the front they understand that your skip and I'm saying I ran inside should you do picture-in-picture and have you in the time a tiny box of bottom just so they don't know gastric almost branding yourself a little bit in a way you couldn't and I don't have to record yourself at the exact same time searching her cut down there again when you're just doing a voiceover you sure you could but mean you can do OB we started doing it with the how to tutorials we do website for someone which would shoot like seven of those and will I want to mess around with that OBS picture-in-picture thing so that our thing is we want to show them there's a human behind this living I did and it didn't intro that's what started doing I think you can intro but I might actually do a little like a cutaway because that might be a little easier for me to shoehorn into the way I do everything that's kind of how I'm planning on doing that one series is a guy who's watermark your face at the thought of the bug cut out yeah that IBM gets the job whatever it is I think I think you are workbench workbenches you kind of thing now but is that things like you may develop something a couple years down the line that you are expert for this intermediate to advanced area sure they work. People may want to book you workbench we have a we talked about with this like there's opportunities for us to do business kinda commie business stuff I we got a role or producer showing cue cards it says 57+ we got we got a lot about you a lot a bunch a lot a bunch of work to do picture coming on and anything else you know Damon now Matt is fun bossing your mouth back here I like I like having you as the produce. Yeah and I is inviting whiteboard and now as put in a request for whiteboards and sharpies and so will have and will have the display screen you see that professionalism here that audio jack going yeah yeah

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similar fashion it's the same thing it just irritates it because it's I let her do it to get you ramped up yeah get me fired alive and have seen he is always good it's a it's a miracle it's a little cheesy it's legit oh yeah it's cheesy for sure it's like a old it's it we soon football it's an old it's an old missing Ole Miss football that they have the hottie toddy I don't I don't know what it means it was in our fraternity we had some kind of chant like that just my opinion on its pleasant change yeah I know I'm not hoping or if anything all those reasons are just making it better for pay out I'll switch if I can find some better just like we talk about writing copy or brand name like companies and name a lot of friends and stuff I got a lady you got me at my jokes in the room it's a 7/10 you gotta beat it in the in the writers room what's going on I'm glad you're on the podcast it's a little hectic throw out this you that everything is throw out all your your handles for for the people Instagram all that stuff usually workbench TV I think on Instagram were no twitters workbench_TV because there's some weird Canadian like workbench DIY program that's got that yet and when you search for the workbench are getting a lot of workbench tutorials how to make a workbench, then silly little dancer putting my graphic designer put in animation tutorial now you want tutorial though it is graphic design animation motion okay it's want to clarify everything Eric did a lot of research before names I told him I intentionally don't do research so I can ask the questions of people when we actually do that on purpose because with Alexa just because he's lazy we will follow me, shut it gave me hope it can be both work well for both suit and tell me about a wide you started what is it you know give me the who what when where why all that well first I was having, slow year click two years ago my main business builder party so would you like graphics animation production all the stuff and so I was like you know it is time to come to share some of my knowledge the people himself I wanted to like a long time ago there's like some people to restart noun is like a man I could do that you know you have and just at the time is like I didn't have the time to do it and that just wasn't the right time I guess for it and there's all this like beginner stuff that didn't exist when I'd started so, what I wanted to do but then all of the market, filled up and do that so I figured I just start to make more advanced tutorials that for the stuff that I'd want to see that was another interesting it's like the Tyco's telling Damien something about they should be doing a podcast similar to this is nothing like two years ago I was telling yeah more as a recruiting tool I think to get younger people to follow over and then you can maybe you develop a relationship with some of these people that are into it but that's that's interesting how that kind of parallel thinking happened and were not even what 7 miles away were your in South Tampa right will assimilate no head of the murder of the murder capital your my hood yeah that's what I was just pitching about trying to sell our house and buy a new one contingent on a stone house that serial killer just the light went on your day 35 grand on the house price so that you will yeah I mean obviously it sucks but it's also kind of interesting way it's like here like Ford motors the news and like that's like not even a weekend in Chicago I'll try to keep a rant pretty quick but but I did journalism this twofold why this was a disaster of an investigation a the the churlish function should be they should be ashamed of themselves they should be flocking there should be some kind of punishment for them for sensationalizing this made it five times worse than it needed to be they called a serial killer before it is technically a serial killer I think I need is a take three I think thickly three I think I got back I go with the major league and the hum of the the speech is all going okay right three that's a winning streak or a heart attack that's my role at least and it was just at when they had to kills it was just a bus stop that was similar that was it to so you really move around MO yet there's no end there is no like he left the pentagram is yet you have all the fun puzzles and things that they normally leave around for the cops just to do that's a sociopath I bet he was on pipette there's some pharmaceutical involvement I think I bet opiates because that does change your brain chemistry anyway were getting down to a sloppy road the other part of that is PR will this all will come back and into the fold PR date the Police Department dictated this message so poorly that they just kept leaving it open ended like they wanted to write a TV show on it like they were like the truth either this guy on video he's he's either doing a job he's either Jazzercise and through the neighborhood like gave this like ridiculous in areas like or use a similar white skin is like why did you do press conference of this like this makes no sense real quick I just think that your audience is probably China figure at this moment how drugs opiates and graphic design are all gonna come back together that's the magic of me all dovetail back because my eyebrow went straight up like Dragon like what good your voice of the people today that so as to do dictating your message right I think chosen a good job of that type I went through and all I went back in your catalog before he started his I want to see what it looked like in the beginning you channel the reason we start talking is like you did a humble pride post like hey we get 10,000 subscribers on site ownership I his armor looking out a while ago and knows that this is really cool I on the fly have to do a lot of graphic design stuff like smaller stuff so I can send it to a good designer like and you are Damien really do it I'll get the concept down but sometimes I said I need tutorials and you can burn funk and hours trying to find like a good stuff and know it's learning how to do some more reading about earlier today the just how to take a logo make a white me like I have is like I was trying to do this for a while and then I looked it was like a minute video as I just change that utilized the site that is it in Photoshop okay media that's what is yeah said you'll never make it at the end. But so it dovetails back is your your your creating a brand through this on a passion project not too dissimilar from what were trying to do with this podcast a little bit were you know we don't know what's in a come of it we'd like should initiate and talk a little business gazettes mainly were any if I went to a dinner party the conversation would somehow get over there anyway which my wife hates but somehow yet your business is life that will mean it's in a lot of it's a small medium business that's life no for a lot of business owner Damien over there look it's it consumes everything his wife's business owner to it's it's a lot in your conversation because sometimes you can come and go help oh you should be doing this this and this is his wife the bad stylus jingo oh you should do you with the shellac nails you should get some Moroccan oil put in the hair yeah I know my hair stuff good her words meant that I was in the salon industry man I know about you want to start slowing off talking I'll rip that ship how did I know price per square foot I know any chairs you need I know the commission rates all that ship you should put a runway in their red carpet so after they're done you look in your eye right now I'm excited to start here decided what that Ceará will try to record the safety and this is interprofessional now we know as I was attempting Internet database yet and it's bad love aggregates artifacting and freezing so there sometimes at your max and drumming out for the lands headroom the show for everybody who is not born after 1990 something to do that hacked into the TV station was that no Max Headroom is I don't know what it is like the Nobel Pepsi commercial guy like accent room that was that roof that yeah they did there was something that that you guys look like Chicago yes somebody like contacting the local TV stand here but there was a mass I got SSRI so yes you got pretty much right there looks okay on the prowl for knowing that random reason hello good underwriters distributes up parcels of the will they also admit Noblesville spoofed it in back to the future when the Ronald Reagan got up and like I run away and they did the whole little thing when we first goes into the future Café I to retro Café yeah, some random kid in there I think assault not too long ago the thing with Elijah when Elijah wasn't out yet and had the arcade ghetto yeah we're having your hands yeah that's the fun part I like watching old movies over again is really out hey that's that guy that I know forgot about. He made it will happen the guy next to him that he didn't suck Kirsten Dunst and Jumanji the day about 10 years whatever it is we know the old and the kanji will swear to say we'll just see the new one they just shrug her down I fulfill I will was cheaper to buy on Amazon for the kids want the original data bungee things like how I got it is what I like a lot in it yeah yeah whatever is not to give up because while it is when the like where's the rock I heard one of the Kevin Hart I heard it's really good actually it is is it you saw kids note no need for kids to watch but herself has caring community, is that redhead from a Doctor Who and also plays Gomorrah and battles of cardiology or some parties I guess she's the blue haired blue chick in guarding the value of the really like the sister nebula sorry nebulae yeah yeah that's it that's conflicted Gavin, hot redhead I'm not into redhead sorry I decide not to ginger kinda guy no fence so my thing, I'm too pale or too dark something about and I hear you if you talk too much so that's what character can't say to the dark why is it just to play it safe I say to paling is that you Darnell you can't that's legal is able to kill I thought this is not telling you I know what I find my wiener gets a Boner for certain things like open you up here right this is not a PC show by any means so and I'm not anything terrible I don't say I'm hating anybody just the wiener wants with the wind once it's okay can you be more click here if you're in the DVD AA like that's your yesterday Outlook might might my wife is ill or find me trying to double in my wife is her, she's like some light bright and damn near white so I don't know what I thought about her hellos and then some. BII can't learn all these acronyms and what you're talking about is a real test for one and were shoehorning here to talk about Dixon balls for 15 minutes now that I thought of it like that with you Dick and balls that he instinctively meals back-and-forth that we will try to edit this psychologist Dick and balls in business that duplicates the goal and maybe a spinoff it works for me like member shoehorning this Internet and a very hectic day Eric's a little stressed as a my is finding serenity that's my nonstress time yeah this is the fight this is gone silly topics yeah that's what we have yoga mats and ship over there and I want to get a funky punching bag thank you we can hang one thing let me think yes anymore Justice just bagged 30 seconds just if I can punch something I thought I think it be cathartic to a definite yes drive-by punch what you got all that stuff is just one Pam okay I feel better now that you like a speed bag and it was good closer it got hit on a nice thought of that those are so noisy it's true that these guys next to a city record will I can hear light them on a conference call behind us so it's you know the walls are thin already use that glass to the wall technique Yahoo that there can hear everything I just take a ceiling tile and Dragon leave eight trying to take all day son all day will do that with this I I have a couple pointers like that that it wrote down Wells Fargo not currently sponsored by Dragon dictate I'm in love Dragon dictate I've got no qualms about it there not a sponsor we just want to give out good things that are good you know good things that are good yeah it makes a wedding but it works good with use mu.com is reporting stuff that's a good thing that's good man log got all his own pilot that I write you down for the next day you really think so don't worry I will be in the show notes in the blog post I forget to put up Jonah 2 yeah I know one thing when asked about we just a tinfoil hat podcast which is conspiracy theory podcast Assam Tripoli the Gotland listeners but also like crazy listeners and Eric and I've been looking through the comments independent of each other talking about it we both went through all floors and ice just got forward one night start answering a bunch of find him and I was looking at yours and theirs so me people whining about like this is to know can you slow it down it's like beachfront composite like pause the video it's in the video tutorial positive actually had some people tell me before like a long time and I like one commenter lowers like that that YouTube is a feature really slow down the video I was disabled I do have speed summary three was likely a watch of it is only capturing the mounding of native English speakers ligaments address you can write something like the next slick person that said that to me obviously just like that we could watch and we have to be you podcast it has to be nobody sounds like I do not accident a lot like that but no pill what I'm I'm talking more one I hope yeah what have is that there was a loud ITS wrong how might this pleases inkwell is that purple drink what's the weirdest thing that's come out of you doing this you been doing for two years passion project side project kinda like I am guessing it's similar because we did this because it's like I got some to say about I got all this information I feel like and I like I like giving advice to people that don't ask for credit but I also like interviewing people right like heaven old buddies come in industries initiate what's what's we're think about it comments or weird messages are you know any that I think that's interesting that you come around the world people are using it which is I saw you had some kind of French translation may be on one of them oh that there was a guy that had done it to tour… Were Willie did it before I did I didn't know existed some bills told me about it so was in French so thankfully had taken some French I was able to figure out what he did 09 there's a better version of something I did so I incorporate that into the download for no I think that's cool I mean we talk about you know a lot of the stuff are doing like, Jesus did like the universal language or saying anything so work or start to think of everything in the context of life right how can we make a little bit more global it's not a much more effort you know but you're at your tutorials you don't really need the audio right sometimes you do but it's harder I'd say probably only because I don't do step-by-step so I can escape a lot of things if you're not in aftereffects user like like a beginner's like I really get all of the things I'm doing usually yeah but in its and is a narrow audience on yeah if you're if you're advanced enough you could probably pick up some stuff sometimes I don't really explain what things are exactly like a minute settings guide I hate when people just while circular all the time I get like reels from people or whatever different ways that worked and it's like okay like I copied a tutorial like I did this like he doesn't know what he is doing disease is not taking the thing in advancing it is just taking something with wheels did in presenting that it in a different way that the zoning assigned something so everybody have all like this you guys have to collaborate so much with other video production companies animation Studios whatever so you when you're getting a file all the default settings are all wacky or they have a way of doing stuff isn't notices its world people present in the work like the stuff that I see from people like you can pick out if you've seen like there's a huge guide video copilot Andrew Kramer he does like these just crazy tutorials only in you see his stuff and people real-time like this is this likely presented to like it is my work on it no that's not yours you know they are doing the tutorial and then think about it and what the rent because they technically did it place I used to work at where the creative director was asking us I mean this happens everywhere I've seen other people tell the same story but basically Craig Dir. comes in is okay we just think of these these people you looking to hire somebody and then it's like well that's an inter-grammar tutorial so and it soon as that happened in the in the Place I was at initially took the DVD's of that long ago of the computer and just throw trash like that is immediately is like no well he sent whelming to the Google reversed something searched I know that was another I know that prevalent like I figured like I figured like the stand-up comedy community were like if you steal jokes basically what that like a child will not exactly stolen like it's like if somebody well I mean I guess in common it's a little different because in comedy the punch line is always the portal and there's not really like however you'd tell it it changing what it's knowing that it's it's it's a very similar because you can have a premise right that is only unique to that person right that's how a lot of these guys get caught one thing is what people think is that they can go off and tell the joke differently and that that's a different thing right but so it is the same but I'm saying it's same and different yeah and calmly they get way more like shut down on doing and in our world it's more like older, did something a little different than that you know it's it's knock down yeah little bit it's all because you have to you your iterations count and yours were czars are just like you just building to something where there are whiffs of tartar comics you know you you're working on a bit to make it tight where is Joel's final thing if you like the graphic designer for lack of a better term like graphic design community they they like seeing the iterations in the process allow the touch her right the flip if I can chime in one of the main thing especially if the just a little advice anybody out there who is doing things that they know they have Andrew Kramer or whatever other tutorials out there you're more than welcome to take that material learned from it do it and then do something as simple as go and shoot your own footage and do the same affect on your own footage and lease that shows that you an instant how to apply the effect and I think that that's when the main things that I specimen graphic designers come and play it's almost similar as someone you know what happens in music and as you have is a lot of industry people in music and she liked it might be McNally actually got like five samples and three loops that already came with the package you didn't really create anything unique you may have rearranged a slightly different but yet totally understand what that means is mean and that's and it's a it happens most special and new budding graphic artist they they that's their education they know they get it from from online and they start hot expand upon and I think that's one of the bigger things that I think on that it's overlooked even Andrew Kramer and yourselves on strong workbench always pushing people to go I go take this and apply to your project at least let me see it in an application as opposed to just being quite literally it's the exact same effect that's partly to why I'll get some complaints were once lowered some is like okay you show me from the beginning or what did you do for this waiver unless a click of a really important setting American go often and say yeah okay the setting is 50 for this in 20 for that because then you're not learning how to use it and the point is to take what I make and expand upon it that's kind like us to watch tutorials nowadays like some else comes up something interesting even if it's something I know like a lot of times if I have some down time I watch it because sometimes I'll pick up a little piece of something that they didn't like I didn't even do that were in a like whatever like because even if you're the meekest person you know you still have some no insight in the shirt or something sure no I died I think that's what YouTube is really great for is I that we learn we have to use all the time because it's stay here will they know and we handle so many different services you know so it's like it's yes there is regular green fire you didn't know like you know what you would've heard outside of work and stuff like your at your house like oh okay this like peace in my toilet broke what do I do to fix that and some is like hey here's this exact model of toilet this is the handle that nicotine elixirs like we manage the stuff that we may sketch were very proud about that we didn't put much behind it but we made a sketch like how to be a man sketch toilet because we grew up in this era were like were not handy and definitely and almost embarrassingly have to look up how like how to properly spell your dad or something will you try it first and you break everything and then go back how to feel that you were slightly taken apart and you break the thing that you need you like oh now I know how this works but it's broken every time and then yeah wife pitches at you in this like an okay I won't buy a new one but liked on the figure this out (about what does it mean Adobe After Effects seems like it's like limitless units potential for manipulation sort of thing and Eric actually Eric's videoconference my ex-wife just to give an ex-wife really don't have fever and ex-wife chose man I got Jesus Christ lately ever life will relive IK wow not look I was looking at your site Joe and I looked at the blog and it was like literally the first sentence I'm lost I can't like I thought about looking in the video graphic design stuff and then it was like five minutes and I was like no I can't do this is this is a lament different there there are some simple stuff that that last post is actually kind of comforted okay no known stones pretty computer at a time on number format yeah things okay okay looks really because for some reason I don't know why saw a lot of stuff I do like programming related and as I used to do some of that and what's what's annoyed me about aftereffect sometimes there sometimes like functions in it that you need that you don't have the better like a single function in another language like number format like PHP which is that some bad a lot of stuff in it's like number format this number you go in it is outlining a number with buildings in it yet although Prelude met here you'd like at least as far as I know maybe it's in there somewhere I don't know but like I had actually reverse engineer how to build that junction was on St. like even you you're making these videos you know what you're doing and you have to go reverse engineer Samuel sometimes I have to learn stuff and some you know like other times there's people way smarter than me that figure out things to yeah yeah problem-solving at the end of the day it's it it's really a similar process am sure to for figuring out any difficult process problem whatever that's why life like trying to do stuff that's outside my zone to help that problem so as as you grow to yeah because it all go okay watching this tutorial on how to do grout for my tile actually what subconsciously helps me figure out how to use software in reverse engineer from there or apply I need that grout fresh fresh and flush against the tile just like we need this design to be flush just you know for whatever reason it will help me contextualize a lot and want to learn it as a man you'll throw that info out as soon as you can know God yes now I grab you guys especially to some other guy is just as many of the applicant been an expert in it oh yeah I own a trial business for last year hashtag that God did all day yeah now if I more if I'm doing the middle the night I'm just by myself like just listen to podcasts just like this Friday night when doing more hundred percent on the posted lightly what I do you guys suggest feels like that old little Simpson joker were like Marge's learning piano just like it just teaching piano 2 inches like I said that they wanted 11 lesson ahead of the kids basically like what is I feel like that's a lot of a lot of management nowadays just because were to spread out just, everything so segmented fragmented out from a management standpoint discussed the Internet box with everybody's head there's too much school stuff out trying to think of the worst a recorded voice and I said I lost applying as live video interrupted that's fine whatever the reason I'm going to yeah that's what the producer does sit here and inform you of the situation will we may have one coming up later following her over there. You write it only to close over there like putting together yeah the tubes are it's me know it's not a will and do it I understand I'm I'm in the process of trying to get it to the point we get used to having this kind of a situation on the backend because I would love for this Texaco no ocean here behind the classroom went to the roof to have the talent just me on how we piping in your earphones always like yeah Robert quivers out further like they're doing that thing are you just part echoing what he said but just like a live fraction of a second later so messily break their people audiences love that audiences love the audio that Don is a doubles okay get my children but all in all that's that's the worst in Prague a Mother's Day gift or gift if the copy the person right in front of you it's like a warm-up game and my this is this is the worst okay yeah that's what kids do the focal me yeah this did not touch you yeah putting it free country brought Jeffrey country free country that means on the deck he said it's a free country never push you yeah anything about that free country pitch right to bear arms my power arms whether or not I will yard and drumming is working on that how I was going for the dead pine thousand and although I was just trying to get all the way to bear arms basically I said I queued up for five minutes oh yeah oh yeah I got an offer one day the full circle with all the others are talking live earlier should do my daily diary touch back to it as you have wakes up and set beforehand like your you to say it oh well like way way before you worry in this weird phrase and see if I can sell it won't last year my New Year's resolution was to say Kirsty more and so I think I've done a good job and it's in the lexicon outside of the poor said that like three or four times a been here in a good because it's now it's woven into my vernacular it is the Meebo was named earthy yeah yeah you need to name it something so why not maybe together looks like McCarthy it does I cancel the slogan for this podcast should be good with the advice I think but I think you get a totally different audience sweat equity well after the pragmatic but pragmatic girth he advises that case went by the movie so what tell us what tell us about the industry what's going on how about this habit give advice 10 years younger you that wanted to get into this time travel give advice yourself for you or you just taught given advice to classrooms read really start learn is the start of the environmental I've probably stolen from somebody am sure but now it's it's parallel theory like Seth Godin noon ship and or was really a look at things just start now we don't listen we don't listen to those those Silicon Valley anticancer types that are those higher up business guys that's why we created this actually one like anti-Tim Ferris here so your maybe you can't like it everything you one like for exactly that's about it seriously a decent anointment it also goes or I listen to all the software podcasting to be like or I just get like seven of your friends that are billionaires then you sit know why commentator conference room and wrote a book on how to manage her $80,000 a month pharmaceutical business yeah thanks for the advice Tim swing five people's likelihood is make a product yeah okay which one tell me so this that's why I go so specific and like mu.com reference or some like that because there is it it sounds jilted sometimes but it it it I heard Colin Quinn say's specificity is the language of the universal wrote that down and remembered it I really like that because I feel like my the way I look at comedy and a lot of the communication and language I try to be overly specific unnecessarily because it's kind of funny or sometimes but I do that sometimes even workbench doctors yeah yeah it's fun what so just start now you have the motivation to do it my my first thing I know I know nothing about how to start to want to be this kind of artist I would say I tried to find like a Mashable class or something get that bait Linda Gladden limit as far as I can as a prism I'm thinking I'm thinking of when I was when I had this mindset to do workbench stuff right I was like I was Artie kind of in it and I'm thinking like the time is whenever you have it in the lake it's now right right yeah it's an appendage to what you're doing already like this podcast is timing cost-effective and it's a good way to get her voice out and literally don't have to spend that many hours a week or so it's not and it's fine so it's not that bad and I'm sure when you start seeing results of people, subscribing that's when it kind of felt fun you know effluent is the first part of doing like some kind of like content strategy like this even if it's not like focused on making money anything it it's that thing of like your print out there for a while lit and unless you have a big budget to put add money or some it's just to be like I am sending us 100 views that are under a message in a bottle for me to do with how it is I started as I started action video instead of YouTube so I started putting stuff up on there and I'm like very cool and it actually got a decent amount of use I know what the deal is with that but just didn't feel like the right type of place I've made a suggestion to go to me I was acting as an Internet for me on the hooves man they just bought that camera company live stream mix bottom out they want to be the third player now and is Facebook's down number two I think video rights which might be three I don't know but as far as like like not watching video games video some places blows my mind that it could be threatened if I can blows my life that is fine. It's insane kids these days that they're actually good about people doing leave and start unit is random stuff and which like all sorts of stuff like I said I have these very very Blake takes on different things and YouTube and like you know if a 3YI like when I went to censor yourself you will hear psychotic artist to its anatomy and I mean like a wimp or hoax everyone yeah me that all porn set yeah okay everything is nothing here that I was kind yeah that's in a separate graphic video right here in your normal everyday you know what are your you're like nine you know yeah yeah whatever yeah so that's what else is on twitch there's a there's people like I watched the granted I don't want to let stuff on twitch by know they have switch usually watching on YouTube because I'm older I guess I will and I'm not there at like 6 o'clock when people doing things like you do that I watch that does he make things this child hold I like to make stuff so he does switch dreams and stuff and then there's a guy that does like these prop making things like reprints and phone stuff and that's punish props and he does stuff on there as well though at times catch people's live stream stuff later on but I'm not on twitch watching it but it's a content that was generated therein so you go on YouTube to go to twitch one I'm usually usually people posting a shortened version of it let Mrs. know I'm scribbling literally hours I don't usually have three hours worth the time to yet we but we will sit there and we were trying to figure out a process to there's I think I will be asked if we start using that as a live broadcasting software we like that the Meebo camera supposed to be able to get you on a few streams at a time but they have some weird thing were like you can either do Facebook live only or you can do YouTube and and for me at the same time and so it's like okay but you know ideally you want to have the video up on all three I say but nobody like do not take checking YouTube and DiMeo like to check Facebook so going live on Facebook makes we don't sense but remember we just a tinfoil hat and they get us in every time like I subscribed a workbench their channel every time you post the video I get an email notification right under the Rome open accidentally you're in you're more like this easily on Facebook more people you check that will always me taking were not going on for me oh to see what's new on mimeo for me as a profession where it makes sense for that it makes sense for I know the half of what we talked about as a hard very unlimited in the way it was like I feel like that's for finished work that's like how it feels but maybe that's all you survey it has to be like cures like real professional video they are naturally separate themselves from my main business stuff is like my main actual company workers on their W a means I would if I'm right now playing armchair quarterback I'd say just make just take everything you've done on that channel and just uploaded to mimeo and it's all good with the keywords and all that stuff all that stuff helps in the e-learning thing is really what they're focusing on so like premium premium subscription model stuff that happens that that like a FC that come along that I don't want people have to like pay for things unless it's specific like is there a subscription that people can just like sign up to look at YouTube rather than go to Freeman the freemium strategy which is a lot of apps do it right so you you get a nap it's free but like to really use it you gotta pay for box or whatever it is it hey it's the same thing the podcast or starting your concern see that a lot more Sam Tripoli was telling us he does bonus content and then for anybody that does patriot on donations which I guess is I saw a PayPal button on yours yet I could have paid his patrons way better now for one reason that such a good think of do as I feel like sometimes my patron I struggle actually like get like the word tears and stuff done just just because a lot of times Kleinwort comes in and then I have to do that yeah I mean I told John Jacobs who was on tinfoil podcast just had a album come out I was like look you want organic an organic strategy it's a little corny but you should anybody buys your album and they screenshot it send it to you should freestyle the name on my Facebook live people love that and they would share it it would get the help on that on their in is not doing what you know comedian I didn't follow through his own doubts deftly done to look like that, like wind over the old spice was doing the the old spice guy was like showing out people like 10 years ago but oh yeah, that if you like you can tweet to my thing at a time and like everyone so I like you they pick somebody and they had him dutifully 24 hours me like that like customize videos toward little pieces it's it's okay could you do this in the whatever production team I don't know they must have liked some just a team stuff oh yeah he was that they like pop it out like immediately oh that pride was the program when I was like people like had specific supplicating to do a video would like a toothbrush in a workmanlike like a 24 hour film fest but it was like only a guy in Terry Cruz knows the Isaiah Mustapha order when you know the other guys after right is right I told him to get rid of commitment I know I'm with you I should to double back in? This is like what I guess try to think which way to go with this what you want to do with this like what you what are you getting out of having this channel I think I I would see that is like you can look at it like a freemium model like like you're doing right eventually you're gonna want to try to get something financially out of it may be direct or indirect is that'll make it better yeah I mean so right now I kind of it's kind of somewhat of a vehicle for other things I have like it like the products inscriptions in the cell and molecular stuff but at the same time a muscle thinking of doing more like specific tutorial play groupings so where is right now making all the tutorials and I'm never to stop doing those free leases far as I can right now but those will always be there you know but the other something of like an actual like a tutorial series or some like that where it actually I can sell that as a unit yeah that's way single tutorial probably not get sold but I mean Jill one specific thing with 10 different managers showing everything they need to know is it so there goes all those anymore I ran those be more from the ground up versus my normal like here's the thing we have to either later this I do and that's it you know little bit more basic stuff you talk about what had not even that exactly basic but like I say it with one of the one something of doing his expression tutorial or expression series and I'm thinking of doing that to where we start from the beginning and it goes in a more like programming in depth like here's what you would do this and whatever you know versus like hey this is cool affect saga expression as this is like a snippet of code and aftereffects that you can use it to like run other things basically like to thank you for telling love with you like Eric got it the only link things together or dynamiting bitcoin what I wish I've missed out on that pretty heavily it's kind of like you can take some have liked for controls of you can bring up your own control to control multiple layers of different things there really powerful you do a lot of stuff with it that's kind of convert topic to actually specifically explain and like one now how do better under five cents IR Inc. in your elevator and yeah write it up yet what I mean that's why we this is the podcasts good you can kinda take the time to explain something that's a little confusing that's why you're doing these videos it's it's hard to I we do video for almost everything now like I don't want to do any phone calls with clients because this is so much visual stuff and it's like now now let's do phone I'll go now let's just reschedule it because it's not you can try to explain to me like guess some things in the talking like this create a ruling, is to help you, Howdy pixels we talk about the early pixels right well you know never that, that's the measurement you use pocket pocket five it is these things up there on what you like to now turn on speaking of in the camera like so I also production stuff and having having those around my house is great but then I'm watching the dictatorial and like color grading and that she's talking to me like what you talking I like the this morning I was watching something about collaborating in and she's like okay so were to repair this thing like prepare what are you talking about I turn mine off yeah it's it's hard my kids see the file, change the names of the notes I can think of something else like Beyoncé my uncle had ever detached his door from it because people if you can eat if you are outside you said open deluxe open Gloriana jet open a door ceiling again, and detach the snow yet he has his whole house Morehouse hooked up to the Lexan problem was that he was a humongous queue society like let's open the door and open the door from the thought of Isaac this is not good now you baby girl it's been well hey baby girl.you doing about I can't believe it took this long to get keyless entry door houses like what we had our car for 15 years I said I go for the stupid metal key in my house, I agree right but always late and I think always get the one like we've got technologies in a failure at some point so get the analog, you can always put the key and if you need to that we have a thumbprint one fingerprint one and I'm like this thing to break I want something that hasn't punch code I thought finger print and then also an addict glory hole for your key because that's my theory with all like that, smart home stuff if I can't turn on the lights physically that I don't want to have a yeah my app to do it. Let's carry I could I feel like I have bad luck with a lot of stuff to do and it'll break down and the moment you need it the most have had that happen to me a couple times were used have a wink that was controlling stuff. It's a hub okay it's like all the other that she went had Home Depot to get like loud laugh I do since then live in Like that I'll actually have since been able to put that into my Phillips you set up which is nice that works like instantly and great but the week one would like fail at random times and latency for the morning like a camera to go to sleep a good turn off lights and it just doesn't yeah like okay great I like the power goes off and for some reason it set to automatically like turn them on slick power is off you I do like I do like this I use I have TTT for a lot of that and I do we have the Phillips you in our place for a few lights and I like I like that it will turn the lights red if there's like a smoke detector goes off were there or something like that you take in warmth or chicken gas station chicken warm bread whatever fried chicken we have laying around it interests automatically turn to that that this martyrdom stuff scares me that it's kind of why we I don't have one of the any of the voice activated things at her house I'm fine with that here is God knows what she thinks we talk about in this room when the vice will verify the calyx profile please yeah know they got a dossier on is what I mean they can't really advertise to us because it's so were so random over the paragraph and I don't think they did like in one sentence will talk about Lexi sleep that what is sensory deprivation tank and like great cubes you know that's going to call that guy's attached is a business that is how far we in here what's the minute count for producer think we gotta wrap it up in the minutes or something here that tells you that Jesus go to the letter sounds like you're done and I think we started at, 20 I think were 45 ends up 40 minutes boom I found it any advice just made that up like that fixed it if you any advice you want to give out there anything short you want to throw out there that I didn't pre-ask you what you want to talk about like a good host would anything in your industry any or reduce pitch about some if you want me like I said before tubes copying people that's a big thing you know I feel like there's a lot of people that just some kids like it because my wife the teacher right so a lot of times the the there is the you get like the two groups I feel like now there's like kids that really want to learn something in there like driven to you know do whatever and then you are, I guess is probably true of all generations but in whatever way I see now being old 34-year-old so if your you have these other people that basically want to been given to them now like and if I feel it's a little bit more than when I was a kid probably because when I was a kid he had let go to an encyclopedia or you know whatever the lake gets information and now it's just like people just like old you didn't tell me exactly how to do it you know and and I've that's kind of what my tutorials are kind of geared to not do look, I want to know the reason though because I think it's frustrating to double back when you're in the middle of that right now the reason is that you learn one way and the other way you don't learn like if you you either learn how to get information or you learn how to like figure out how to get information so you think the speed that common I saw was like why can't you tell might slow it down and no break everything down you think more Darwinism like that's just half sometimes as people are people that are learning in on their there just new to it they don't understand the people that leave comments now is the final test this I don't know the board laying out three comments on YouTube his comments on YouTube narcissistic I had to read the ones were never on arms at every site I think a reply to pretty much everybody I replied nicely and the guy the try to accuse me of actually like stealing some else's tutorial or something 1000 interesting where is basically just like okay so people can have the same idea that's not loud apparently and I'm supposed to know what everybody else in the tutorial spaces that were occasionally has some data set this is my reply was like okay will assuming I stole this one what about the other like 70 done at that time right what about that that the other guy 70 guys like was like people commenting on when I did like 60 back or something like what okay they probably saw one the copied of you that I think you got it okay yeah I've had comedian still my material and I don't there's not much you can do about it except confront them but usually I they die out anyway yeah and I don't I'm not worried about it and now lives I've seen people that are basically like within a few days posted to the world that similar to mine is different enough or whatever but I'm like I don't care yeah yeah it's funny to read their comment silicone man you're the only person on YouTube doing the stuff it's like that's funny because I get that sink in a comment like Virgo that we had people accusing us or throwing up illuminati gang signs during the podcast address like that the likely like that I don't know I don't know really what I was reading a lot of the stuff left will follow to us, like I'm not big on social justice stuff obviously got really a thing whatever but anyway yeah one thing is really feeling all right one thing is funny is that you said you see the thing if you were doing this like okay oh will do everything under the now everything I know it looks like wipeout like they like so some of the people that were like in this thing we visited a watch on YouTube is his name is that somehow it all okay humble some black eye and a couple other people like any work you really did like this like dealer's like the slick white power thing is like a joke you know like and but they got it like actually get news on it like you were calling this like some kind of whites only making the symbol the index after the other three fingers up yeah you don't want to lick you the okay dive symbol you know like that okay Moji just turns out that yeah the other for the penal perfect whatever but I thought you're going to go on the one is the game that came back from our middle school early high school days is you can take the okay you put it on your thigh whatever Melissa has people your bell ever if someone looks at it get to punch in the stupid ship I never initially combine that together it's dark back like Smirnov whatever the kneeling Smirnov nice that I went back to its back than the national championship photo of Alabama one guy was for the players is doing it which is where ever he that's like an 18-year-old kid doesn't know at school if all right dad I think it's funny there's a people doing it I don't have a type of super professional meeting at the White House meeting people there to have fun it that I mean it's funny but you know all I fall is like 50 or barstool sports like Friday old room science Yep again I got a question so how do you manage expectations for some of the new artist that you meet as far as getting into the industry I don't think it's really think people have a lot of like doom and gloom unlike other semi people doing it whatever but there's not so many good people so like a lot of times that I am trying to get in I get I get a lot of work coming in and then I have nobody to farm it to know because a lot of times it's just there's nobody good around you know you just have to be like like hone your skills don't just say oh well I don't use aftereffect so here you go you know like you can't really have the idea that people should just be giving you money you know and in you just have to kind of like just like learners that you know you cannot sit there and after effects and like yeah or wherever programmer using phenolics and their actually actively learning and experimenting and that you're not really gonna grow to the level that you working late you know get extra work and stuff you know because otherwise you're just doing whatever belts does so you're just taking that basil yeah you know it's obvious it's a prerequisite that you know this program in order to make stuff but you need to like work on it more in order to learn things about it have talent you deftly need talent yeah I mean yeah I have an eye for the best person is or talented enough you there's nothing I'm on called the mow grass like whatever it's hashtag motion design.com and that's there's a lot of like people hanging out in there and sharing knowledge about different things and I feel like I've got a lot of stuff no just from them and just you know people have liked met online you know it okay want to do this work and sometimes even people send me an idea for tutorial that way okay I don't do tutorials but you and I can do whatever and I shot a mountain I can assure what they have so I think I think you need to get I saw that you've added yourself in the beginning of as intro I think Geico picture-in-picture have your your you countries to shot you are doing it sure, then I get that I get the problem of well I do like cuts because I'm try to keep them short so that was my other goal when I first heard it was like really keeping him shortly I got tired of twirl that like 40 minutes long in the show like the same thing also in three minutes notes like Goldmine the cuts are thinking on the front they understand that your skip and I'm saying I ran inside should you do picture-in-picture and have you in the time a tiny box of bottom just so they don't know gastric almost branding yourself a little bit in a way you couldn't and I don't have to record yourself at the exact same time searching her cut down there again when you're just doing a voiceover you sure you could but mean you can do OB we started doing it with the how to tutorials we do website for someone which would shoot like seven of those and will I want to mess around with that OBS picture-in-picture thing so that our thing is we want to show them there's a human behind this living I did and it didn't intro that's what started doing I think you can intro but I might actually do a little like a cutaway because that might be a little easier for me to shoehorn into the way I do everything that's kind of how I'm planning on doing that one series is a guy who's watermark your face at the thought of the bug cut out yeah that IBM gets the job whatever it is I think I think you are workbench workbenches you kind of thing now but is that things like you may develop something a couple years down the line that you are expert for this intermediate to advanced area sure they work. People may want to book you workbench we have a we talked about with this like there's opportunities for us to do business kinda commie business stuff I we got a role or producer showing cue cards it says 57+ we got we got a lot about you a lot a bunch a lot a bunch of work to do picture coming on and anything else you know Damon now Matt is fun bossing your mouth back here I like I like having you as the produce. Yeah and I is inviting whiteboard and now as put in a request for whiteboards and sharpies and so will have and will have the display screen you see that professionalism here that audio jack going yeah yeah

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Your library life we live we are alive that's that's what I was talking to my how you feeling Eric I'm getting educators along yeah well man that all changes yeah I said before off Mike I unabashedly love fall out boy cure number 33-year-old man three great fumes you three yeah I count them as they come in but we got Joe Clay here how many cubes if you have any encryptions yeah this is how you intervene in but I don't have an Excel sheet relevant for your first question but Serbia tough interview okay you don't have an Excel sheet that 12 I don't know what you're doing here honestly our producer since it is up that's me okay were to talk some graphic design some animation workbench.tv is your website and that passion project to teach young ends how to do stuff let's do our sponsor for this podcast sweat equity pragmatic realistic business advice hustle interviews sometimes Eric and I should ship sometime noises Damien Baltasar 28 monkeys durable direction if you're watching a video which is on YouTube Facebook origin of just listening you'll just hear that sultry voice limb area yeah because once bona fide run iTunes prion pod bailed other things that just pull pull that audio automatically but for the demographic yeah it keeps its two white we had had a mess it up a little bit developed a Relevant hammer yes they were there Chuck Cameron so let's do our sponsors Grasshopper phones you got business right Joe is so business phone lines how may people you call and you're like is this the bizarre house number or is this there just their cell phone, never misses a rigid self as noted tell yet but a lot of people need to act bigger than they are need act mortgage and especially people doing startups you noticed you need to act professional that's what you need a second phone line how does knowing how to answer the phone I answer hello when I answer my phone if I have a business plan when will I felt myself some angry so grasshoppers and app you can have in your phone and it will give you different kind of screen so you know it's that that still your Verizon or AT&T line or whatever personal line is and it's a scalable phone option it's the entrepreneurs phone line our listeners get 50 bucks off if they use the link and will put this in the episode description it's a tried grasshopper.com/sweat try Grasshopper.com/sweat like he's sweat get nasty real sultry and he got to come up with a better example go for it boy right now my only other one they brought us wet so what nuts where the only two I got off top my head but off camera but not sweat and fumes really taking this good time an area I national business and let's get Eric's favorite part we got to get it officially started God Almighty that's how you officially start the podcast I like old-school radio call-in that start every program with your your call into signed like that much like if you go on workbenches YouTube channel you've got I see the thumbnails have your branding on everything in a similar fashion it's the same thing it just irritates it because it's I let her do it to get you ramped up yeah get me fired alive and have seen he is always good it's a it's a miracle it's a little cheesy it's legit oh yeah it's cheesy for sure it's like a old it's it we soon football it's an old it's an old missing Ole Miss football that they have the hottie toddy I don't I don't know what it means it was in our fraternity we had some kind of chant like that just my opinion on its pleasant change yeah I know I'm not hoping or if anything all those reasons are just making it better for pay out I'll switch if I can find some better just like we talk about writing copy or brand name like companies and name a lot of friends and stuff I got a lady you got me at my jokes in the room it's a 7/10 you gotta beat it in the in the writers room what's going on I'm glad you're on the podcast it's a little hectic throw out this you that everything is throw out all your your handles for for the people Instagram all that stuff usually workbench TV I think on Instagram were no twitters workbench_TV because there's some weird Canadian like workbench DIY program that's got that yet and when you search for the workbench are getting a lot of workbench tutorials how to make a workbench, then silly little dancer putting my graphic designer put in animation tutorial now you want tutorial though it is graphic design animation motion okay it's want to clarify everything Eric did a lot of research before names I told him I intentionally don't do research so I can ask the questions of people when we actually do that on purpose because with Alexa just because he's lazy we will follow me, shut it gave me hope it can be both work well for both suit and tell me about a wide you started what is it you know give me the who what when where why all that well first I was having, slow year click two years ago my main business builder party so would you like graphics animation production all the stuff and so I was like you know it is time to come to share some of my knowledge the people himself I wanted to like a long time ago there's like some people to restart noun is like a man I could do that you know you have and just at the time is like I didn't have the time to do it and that just wasn't the right time I guess for it and there's all this like beginner stuff that didn't exist when I'd started so, what I wanted to do but then all of the market, filled up and do that so I figured I just start to make more advanced tutorials that for the stuff that I'd want to see that was another interesting it's like the Tyco's telling Damien something about they should be doing a podcast similar to this is nothing like two years ago I was telling yeah more as a recruiting tool I think to get younger people to follow over and then you can maybe you develop a relationship with some of these people that are into it but that's that's interesting how that kind of parallel thinking happened and were not even what 7 miles away were your in South Tampa right will assimilate no head of the murder of the murder capital your my hood yeah that's what I was just pitching about trying to sell our house and buy a new one contingent on a stone house that serial killer just the light went on your day 35 grand on the house price so that you will yeah I mean obviously it sucks but it's also kind of interesting way it's like here like Ford motors the news and like that's like not even a weekend in Chicago I'll try to keep a rant pretty quick but but I did journalism this twofold why this was a disaster of an investigation a the the churlish function should be they should be ashamed of themselves they should be flocking there should be some kind of punishment for them for sensationalizing this made it five times worse than it needed to be they called a serial killer before it is technically a serial killer I think I need is a take three I think thickly three I think I got back I go with the major league and the hum of the the speech is all going okay right three that's a winning streak or a heart attack that's my role at least and it was just at when they had to kills it was just a bus stop that was similar that was it to so you really move around MO yet there's no end there is no like he left the pentagram is yet you have all the fun puzzles and things that they normally leave around for the cops just to do that's a sociopath I bet he was on pipette there's some pharmaceutical involvement I think I bet opiates because that does change your brain chemistry anyway were getting down to a sloppy road the other part of that is PR will this all will come back and into the fold PR date the Police Department dictated this message so poorly that they just kept leaving it open ended like they wanted to write a TV show on it like they were like the truth either this guy on video he's he's either doing a job he's either Jazzercise and through the neighborhood like gave this like ridiculous in areas like or use a similar white skin is like why did you do press conference of this like this makes no sense real quick I just think that your audience is probably China figure at this moment how drugs opiates and graphic design are all gonna come back together that's the magic of me all dovetail back because my eyebrow went straight up like Dragon like what good your voice of the people today that so as to do dictating your message right I think chosen a good job of that type I went through and all I went back in your catalog before he started his I want to see what it looked like in the beginning you channel the reason we start talking is like you did a humble pride post like hey we get 10,000 subscribers on site ownership I his armor looking out a while ago and knows that this is really cool I on the fly have to do a lot of graphic design stuff like smaller stuff so I can send it to a good designer like and you are Damien really do it I'll get the concept down but sometimes I said I need tutorials and you can burn funk and hours trying to find like a good stuff and know it's learning how to do some more reading about earlier today the just how to take a logo make a white me like I have is like I was trying to do this for a while and then I looked it was like a minute video as I just change that utilized the site that is it in Photoshop okay media that's what is yeah said you'll never make it at the end. But so it dovetails back is your your your creating a brand through this on a passion project not too dissimilar from what were trying to do with this podcast a little bit were you know we don't know what's in a come of it we'd like should initiate and talk a little business gazettes mainly were any if I went to a dinner party the conversation would somehow get over there anyway which my wife hates but somehow yet your business is life that will mean it's in a lot of it's a small medium business that's life no for a lot of business owner Damien over there look it's it consumes everything his wife's business owner to it's it's a lot in your conversation because sometimes you can come and go help oh you should be doing this this and this is his wife the bad stylus jingo oh you should do you with the shellac nails you should get some Moroccan oil put in the hair yeah I know my hair stuff good her words meant that I was in the salon industry man I know about you want to start slowing off talking I'll rip that ship how did I know price per square foot I know any chairs you need I know the commission rates all that ship you should put a runway in their red carpet so after they're done you look in your eye right now I'm excited to start here decided what that Ceará will try to record the safety and this is interprofessional now we know as I was attempting Internet database yet and it's bad love aggregates artifacting and freezing so there sometimes at your max and drumming out for the lands headroom the show for everybody who is not born after 1990 something to do that hacked into the TV station was that no Max Headroom is I don't know what it is like the Nobel Pepsi commercial guy like accent room that was that roof that yeah they did there was something that that you guys look like Chicago yes somebody like contacting the local TV stand here but there was a mass I got SSRI so yes you got pretty much right there looks okay on the prowl for knowing that random reason hello good underwriters distributes up parcels of the will they also admit Noblesville spoofed it in back to the future when the Ronald Reagan got up and like I run away and they did the whole little thing when we first goes into the future Café I to retro Café yeah, some random kid in there I think assault not too long ago the thing with Elijah when Elijah wasn't out yet and had the arcade ghetto yeah we're having your hands yeah that's the fun part I like watching old movies over again is really out hey that's that guy that I know forgot about. He made it will happen the guy next to him that he didn't suck Kirsten Dunst and Jumanji the day about 10 years whatever it is we know the old and the kanji will swear to say we'll just see the new one they just shrug her down I fulfill I will was cheaper to buy on Amazon for the kids want the original data bungee things like how I got it is what I like a lot in it yeah yeah whatever is not to give up because while it is when the like where's the rock I heard one of the Kevin Hart I heard it's really good actually it is is it you saw kids note no need for kids to watch but herself has caring community, is that redhead from a Doctor Who and also plays Gomorrah and battles of cardiology or some parties I guess she's the blue haired blue chick in guarding the value of the really like the sister nebula sorry nebulae yeah yeah that's it that's conflicted Gavin, hot redhead I'm not into redhead sorry I decide not to ginger kinda guy no fence so my thing, I'm too pale or too dark something about and I hear you if you talk too much so that's what character can't say to the dark why is it just to play it safe I say to paling is that you Darnell you can't that's legal is able to kill I thought this is not telling you I know what I find my wiener gets a Boner for certain things like open you up here right this is not a PC show by any means so and I'm not anything terrible I don't say I'm hating anybody just the wiener wants with the wind once it's okay can you be more click here if you're in the DVD AA like that's your yesterday Outlook might might my wife is ill or find me trying to double in my wife is her, she's like some light bright and damn near white so I don't know what I thought about her hellos and then some. BII can't learn all these acronyms and what you're talking about is a real test for one and were shoehorning here to talk about Dixon balls for 15 minutes now that I thought of it like that with you Dick and balls that he instinctively meals back-and-forth that we will try to edit this psychologist Dick and balls in business that duplicates the goal and maybe a spinoff it works for me like member shoehorning this Internet and a very hectic day Eric's a little stressed as a my is finding serenity that's my nonstress time yeah this is the fight this is gone silly topics yeah that's what we have yoga mats and ship over there and I want to get a funky punching bag thank you we can hang one thing let me think yes anymore Justice just bagged 30 seconds just if I can punch something I thought I think it be cathartic to a definite yes drive-by punch what you got all that stuff is just one Pam okay I feel better now that you like a speed bag and it was good closer it got hit on a nice thought of that those are so noisy it's true that these guys next to a city record will I can hear light them on a conference call behind us so it's you know the walls are thin already use that glass to the wall technique Yahoo that there can hear everything I just take a ceiling tile and Dragon leave eight trying to take all day son all day will do that with this I I have a couple pointers like that that it wrote down Wells Fargo not currently sponsored by Dragon dictate I'm in love Dragon dictate I've got no qualms about it there not a sponsor we just want to give out good things that are good you know good things that are good yeah it makes a wedding but it works good with use mu.com is reporting stuff that's a good thing that's good man log got all his own pilot that I write you down for the next day you really think so don't worry I will be in the show notes in the blog post I forget to put up Jonah 2 yeah I know one thing when asked about we just a tinfoil hat podcast which is conspiracy theory podcast Assam Tripoli the Gotland listeners but also like crazy listeners and Eric and I've been looking through the comments independent of each other talking about it we both went through all floors and ice just got forward one night start answering a bunch of find him and I was looking at yours and theirs so me people whining about like this is to know can you slow it down it's like beachfront composite like pause the video it's in the video tutorial positive actually had some people tell me before like a long time and I like one commenter lowers like that that YouTube is a feature really slow down the video I was disabled I do have speed summary three was likely a watch of it is only capturing the mounding of native English speakers ligaments address you can write something like the next slick person that said that to me obviously just like that we could watch and we have to be you podcast it has to be nobody sounds like I do not accident a lot like that but no pill what I'm I'm talking more one I hope yeah what have is that there was a loud ITS wrong how might this pleases inkwell is that purple drink what's the weirdest thing that's come out of you doing this you been doing for two years passion project side project kinda like I am guessing it's similar because we did this because it's like I got some to say about I got all this information I feel like and I like I like giving advice to people that don't ask for credit but I also like interviewing people right like heaven old buddies come in industries initiate what's what's we're think about it comments or weird messages are you know any that I think that's interesting that you come around the world people are using it which is I saw you had some kind of French translation may be on one of them oh that there was a guy that had done it to tour… Were Willie did it before I did I didn't know existed some bills told me about it so was in French so thankfully had taken some French I was able to figure out what he did 09 there's a better version of something I did so I incorporate that into the download for no I think that's cool I mean we talk about you know a lot of the stuff are doing like, Jesus did like the universal language or saying anything so work or start to think of everything in the context of life right how can we make a little bit more global it's not a much more effort you know but you're at your tutorials you don't really need the audio right sometimes you do but it's harder I'd say probably only because I don't do step-by-step so I can escape a lot of things if you're not in aftereffects user like like a beginner's like I really get all of the things I'm doing usually yeah but in its and is a narrow audience on yeah if you're if you're advanced enough you could probably pick up some stuff sometimes I don't really explain what things are exactly like a minute settings guide I hate when people just while circular all the time I get like reels from people or whatever different ways that worked and it's like okay like I copied a tutorial like I did this like he doesn't know what he is doing disease is not taking the thing in advancing it is just taking something with wheels did in presenting that it in a different way that the zoning assigned something so everybody have all like this you guys have to collaborate so much with other video production companies animation Studios whatever so you when you're getting a file all the default settings are all wacky or they have a way of doing stuff isn't notices its world people present in the work like the stuff that I see from people like you can pick out if you've seen like there's a huge guide video copilot Andrew Kramer he does like these just crazy tutorials only in you see his stuff and people real-time like this is this likely presented to like it is my work on it no that's not yours you know they are doing the tutorial and then think about it and what the rent because they technically did it place I used to work at where the creative director was asking us I mean this happens everywhere I've seen other people tell the same story but basically Craig Dir. comes in is okay we just think of these these people you looking to hire somebody and then it's like well that's an inter-grammar tutorial so and it soon as that happened in the in the Place I was at initially took the DVD's of that long ago of the computer and just throw trash like that is immediately is like no well he sent whelming to the Google reversed something searched I know that was another I know that prevalent like I figured like I figured like the stand-up comedy community were like if you steal jokes basically what that like a child will not exactly stolen like it's like if somebody well I mean I guess in common it's a little different because in comedy the punch line is always the portal and there's not really like however you'd tell it it changing what it's knowing that it's it's it's a very similar because you can have a premise right that is only unique to that person right that's how a lot of these guys get caught one thing is what people think is that they can go off and tell the joke differently and that that's a different thing right but so it is the same but I'm saying it's same and different yeah and calmly they get way more like shut down on doing and in our world it's more like older, did something a little different than that you know it's it's knock down yeah little bit it's all because you have to you your iterations count and yours were czars are just like you just building to something where there are whiffs of tartar comics you know you you're working on a bit to make it tight where is Joel's final thing if you like the graphic designer for lack of a better term like graphic design community they they like seeing the iterations in the process allow the touch her right the flip if I can chime in one of the main thing especially if the just a little advice anybody out there who is doing things that they know they have Andrew Kramer or whatever other tutorials out there you're more than welcome to take that material learned from it do it and then do something as simple as go and shoot your own footage and do the same affect on your own footage and lease that shows that you an instant how to apply the effect and I think that that's when the main things that I specimen graphic designers come and play it's almost similar as someone you know what happens in music and as you have is a lot of industry people in music and she liked it might be McNally actually got like five samples and three loops that already came with the package you didn't really create anything unique you may have rearranged a slightly different but yet totally understand what that means is mean and that's and it's a it happens most special and new budding graphic artist they they that's their education they know they get it from from online and they start hot expand upon and I think that's one of the bigger things that I think on that it's overlooked even Andrew Kramer and yourselves on strong workbench always pushing people to go I go take this and apply to your project at least let me see it in an application as opposed to just being quite literally it's the exact same effect that's partly to why I'll get some complaints were once lowered some is like okay you show me from the beginning or what did you do for this waiver unless a click of a really important setting American go often and say yeah okay the setting is 50 for this in 20 for that because then you're not learning how to use it and the point is to take what I make and expand upon it that's kind like us to watch tutorials nowadays like some else comes up something interesting even if it's something I know like a lot of times if I have some down time I watch it because sometimes I'll pick up a little piece of something that they didn't like I didn't even do that were in a like whatever like because even if you're the meekest person you know you still have some no insight in the shirt or something sure no I died I think that's what YouTube is really great for is I that we learn we have to use all the time because it's stay here will they know and we handle so many different services you know so it's like it's yes there is regular green fire you didn't know like you know what you would've heard outside of work and stuff like your at your house like oh okay this like peace in my toilet broke what do I do to fix that and some is like hey here's this exact model of toilet this is the handle that nicotine elixirs like we manage the stuff that we may sketch were very proud about that we didn't put much behind it but we made a sketch like how to be a man sketch toilet because we grew up in this era were like were not handy and definitely and almost embarrassingly have to look up how like how to properly spell your dad or something will you try it first and you break everything and then go back how to feel that you were slightly taken apart and you break the thing that you need you like oh now I know how this works but it's broken every time and then yeah wife pitches at you in this like an okay I won't buy a new one but liked on the figure this out (about what does it mean Adobe After Effects seems like it's like limitless units potential for manipulation sort of thing and Eric actually Eric's videoconference my ex-wife just to give an ex-wife really don't have fever and ex-wife chose man I got Jesus Christ lately ever life will relive IK wow not look I was looking at your site Joe and I looked at the blog and it was like literally the first sentence I'm lost I can't like I thought about looking in the video graphic design stuff and then it was like five minutes and I was like no I can't do this is this is a lament different there there are some simple stuff that that last post is actually kind of comforted okay no known stones pretty computer at a time on number format yeah things okay okay looks really because for some reason I don't know why saw a lot of stuff I do like programming related and as I used to do some of that and what's what's annoyed me about aftereffect sometimes there sometimes like functions in it that you need that you don't have the better like a single function in another language like number format like PHP which is that some bad a lot of stuff in it's like number format this number you go in it is outlining a number with buildings in it yet although Prelude met here you'd like at least as far as I know maybe it's in there somewhere I don't know but like I had actually reverse engineer how to build that junction was on St. like even you you're making these videos you know what you're doing and you have to go reverse engineer Samuel sometimes I have to learn stuff and some you know like other times there's people way smarter than me that figure out things to yeah yeah problem-solving at the end of the day it's it it's really a similar process am sure to for figuring out any difficult process problem whatever that's why life like trying to do stuff that's outside my zone to help that problem so as as you grow to yeah because it all go okay watching this tutorial on how to do grout for my tile actually what subconsciously helps me figure out how to use software in reverse engineer from there or apply I need that grout fresh fresh and flush against the tile just like we need this design to be flush just you know for whatever reason it will help me contextualize a lot and want to learn it as a man you'll throw that info out as soon as you can know God yes now I grab you guys especially to some other guy is just as many of the applicant been an expert in it oh yeah I own a trial business for last year hashtag that God did all day yeah now if I more if I'm doing the middle the night I'm just by myself like just listen to podcasts just like this Friday night when doing more hundred percent on the posted lightly what I do you guys suggest feels like that old little Simpson joker were like Marge's learning piano just like it just teaching piano 2 inches like I said that they wanted 11 lesson ahead of the kids basically like what is I feel like that's a lot of a lot of management nowadays just because were to spread out just, everything so segmented fragmented out from a management standpoint discussed the Internet box with everybody's head there's too much school stuff out trying to think of the worst a recorded voice and I said I lost applying as live video interrupted that's fine whatever the reason I'm going to yeah that's what the producer does sit here and inform you of the situation will we may have one coming up later following her over there. You write it only to close over there like putting together yeah the tubes are it's me know it's not a will and do it I understand I'm I'm in the process of trying to get it to the point we get used to having this kind of a situation on the backend because I would love for this Texaco no ocean here behind the classroom went to the roof to have the talent just me on how we piping in your earphones always like yeah Robert quivers out further like they're doing that thing are you just part echoing what he said but just like a live fraction of a second later so messily break their people audiences love that audiences love the audio that Don is a doubles okay get my children but all in all that's that's the worst in Prague a Mother's Day gift or gift if the copy the person right in front of you it's like a warm-up game and my this is this is the worst okay yeah that's what kids do the focal me yeah this did not touch you yeah putting it free country brought Jeffrey country free country that means on the deck he said it's a free country never push you yeah anything about that free country pitch right to bear arms my power arms whether or not I will yard and drumming is working on that how I was going for the dead pine thousand and although I was just trying to get all the way to bear arms basically I said I queued up for five minutes oh yeah oh yeah I got an offer one day the full circle with all the others are talking live earlier should do my daily diary touch back to it as you have wakes up and set beforehand like your you to say it oh well like way way before you worry in this weird phrase and see if I can sell it won't last year my New Year's resolution was to say Kirsty more and so I think I've done a good job and it's in the lexicon outside of the poor said that like three or four times a been here in a good because it's now it's woven into my vernacular it is the Meebo was named earthy yeah yeah you need to name it something so why not maybe together looks like McCarthy it does I cancel the slogan for this podcast should be good with the advice I think but I think you get a totally different audience sweat equity well after the pragmatic but pragmatic girth he advises that case went by the movie so what tell us what tell us about the industry what's going on how about this habit give advice 10 years younger you that wanted to get into this time travel give advice yourself for you or you just taught given advice to classrooms read really start learn is the start of the environmental I've probably stolen from somebody am sure but now it's it's parallel theory like Seth Godin noon ship and or was really a look at things just start now we don't listen we don't listen to those those Silicon Valley anticancer types that are those higher up business guys that's why we created this actually one like anti-Tim Ferris here so your maybe you can't like it everything you one like for exactly that's about it seriously a decent anointment it also goes or I listen to all the software podcasting to be like or I just get like seven of your friends that are billionaires then you sit know why commentator conference room and wrote a book on how to manage her $80,000 a month pharmaceutical business yeah thanks for the advice Tim swing five people's likelihood is make a product yeah okay which one tell me so this that's why I go so specific and like mu.com reference or some like that because there is it it sounds jilted sometimes but it it it I heard Colin Quinn say's specificity is the language of the universal wrote that down and remembered it I really like that because I feel like my the way I look at comedy and a lot of the communication and language I try to be overly specific unnecessarily because it's kind of funny or sometimes but I do that sometimes even workbench doctors yeah yeah it's fun what so just start now you have the motivation to do it my my first thing I know I know nothing about how to start to want to be this kind of artist I would say I tried to find like a Mashable class or something get that bait Linda Gladden limit as far as I can as a prism I'm thinking I'm thinking of when I was when I had this mindset to do workbench stuff right I was like I was Artie kind of in it and I'm thinking like the time is whenever you have it in the lake it's now right right yeah it's an appendage to what you're doing already like this podcast is timing cost-effective and it's a good way to get her voice out and literally don't have to spend that many hours a week or so it's not and it's fine so it's not that bad and I'm sure when you start seeing results of people, subscribing that's when it kind of felt fun you know effluent is the first part of doing like some kind of like content strategy like this even if it's not like focused on making money anything it it's that thing of like your print out there for a while lit and unless you have a big budget to put add money or some it's just to be like I am sending us 100 views that are under a message in a bottle for me to do with how it is I started as I started action video instead of YouTube so I started putting stuff up on there and I'm like very cool and it actually got a decent amount of use I know what the deal is with that but just didn't feel like the right type of place I've made a suggestion to go to me I was acting as an Internet for me on the hooves man they just bought that camera company live stream mix bottom out they want to be the third player now and is Facebook's down number two I think video rights which might be three I don't know but as far as like like not watching video games video some places blows my mind that it could be threatened if I can blows my life that is fine. It's insane kids these days that they're actually good about people doing leave and start unit is random stuff and which like all sorts of stuff like I said I have these very very Blake takes on different things and YouTube and like you know if a 3YI like when I went to censor yourself you will hear psychotic artist to its anatomy and I mean like a wimp or hoax everyone yeah me that all porn set yeah okay everything is nothing here that I was kind yeah that's in a separate graphic video right here in your normal everyday you know what are your you're like nine you know yeah yeah whatever yeah so that's what else is on twitch there's a there's people like I watched the granted I don't want to let stuff on twitch by know they have switch usually watching on YouTube because I'm older I guess I will and I'm not there at like 6 o'clock when people doing things like you do that I watch that does he make things this child hold I like to make stuff so he does switch dreams and stuff and then there's a guy that does like these prop making things like reprints and phone stuff and that's punish props and he does stuff on there as well though at times catch people's live stream stuff later on but I'm not on twitch watching it but it's a content that was generated therein so you go on YouTube to go to twitch one I'm usually usually people posting a shortened version of it let Mrs. know I'm scribbling literally hours I don't usually have three hours worth the time to yet we but we will sit there and we were trying to figure out a process to there's I think I will be asked if we start using that as a live broadcasting software we like that the Meebo camera supposed to be able to get you on a few streams at a time but they have some weird thing were like you can either do Facebook live only or you can do YouTube and and for me at the same time and so it's like okay but you know ideally you want to have the video up on all three I say but nobody like do not take checking YouTube and DiMeo like to check Facebook so going live on Facebook makes we don't sense but remember we just a tinfoil hat and they get us in every time like I subscribed a workbench their channel every time you post the video I get an email notification right under the Rome open accidentally you're in you're more like this easily on Facebook more people you check that will always me taking were not going on for me oh to see what's new on mimeo for me as a profession where it makes sense for that it makes sense for I know the half of what we talked about as a hard very unlimited in the way it was like I feel like that's for finished work that's like how it feels but maybe that's all you survey it has to be like cures like real professional video they are naturally separate themselves from my main business stuff is like my main actual company workers on their W a means I would if I'm right now playing armchair quarterback I'd say just make just take everything you've done on that channel and just uploaded to mimeo and it's all good with the keywords and all that stuff all that stuff helps in the e-learning thing is really what they're focusing on so like premium premium subscription model stuff that happens that that like a FC that come along that I don't want people have to like pay for things unless it's specific like is there a subscription that people can just like sign up to look at YouTube rather than go to Freeman the freemium strategy which is a lot of apps do it right so you you get a nap it's free but like to really use it you gotta pay for box or whatever it is it hey it's the same thing the podcast or starting your concern see that a lot more Sam Tripoli was telling us he does bonus content and then for anybody that does patriot on donations which I guess is I saw a PayPal button on yours yet I could have paid his patrons way better now for one reason that such a good think of do as I feel like sometimes my patron I struggle actually like get like the word tears and stuff done just just because a lot of times Kleinwort comes in and then I have to do that yeah I mean I told John Jacobs who was on tinfoil podcast just had a album come out I was like look you want organic an organic strategy it's a little corny but you should anybody buys your album and they screenshot it send it to you should freestyle the name on my Facebook live people love that and they would share it it would get the help on that on their in is not doing what you know comedian I didn't follow through his own doubts deftly done to look like that, like wind over the old spice was doing the the old spice guy was like showing out people like 10 years ago but oh yeah, that if you like you can tweet to my thing at a time and like everyone so I like you they pick somebody and they had him dutifully 24 hours me like that like customize videos toward little pieces it's it's okay could you do this in the whatever production team I don't know they must have liked some just a team stuff oh yeah he was that they like pop it out like immediately oh that pride was the program when I was like people like had specific supplicating to do a video would like a toothbrush in a workmanlike like a 24 hour film fest but it was like only a guy in Terry Cruz knows the Isaiah Mustapha order when you know the other guys after right is right I told him to get rid of commitment I know I'm with you I should to double back in? This is like what I guess try to think which way to go with this what you want to do with this like what you what are you getting out of having this channel I think I I would see that is like you can look at it like a freemium model like like you're doing right eventually you're gonna want to try to get something financially out of it may be direct or indirect is that'll make it better yeah I mean so right now I kind of it's kind of somewhat of a vehicle for other things I have like it like the products inscriptions in the cell and molecular stuff but at the same time a muscle thinking of doing more like specific tutorial play groupings so where is right now making all the tutorials and I'm never to stop doing those free leases far as I can right now but those will always be there you know but the other something of like an actual like a tutorial series or some like that where it actually I can sell that as a unit yeah that's way single tutorial probably not get sold but I mean Jill one specific thing with 10 different managers showing everything they need to know is it so there goes all those anymore I ran those be more from the ground up versus my normal like here's the thing we have to either later this I do and that's it you know little bit more basic stuff you talk about what had not even that exactly basic but like I say it with one of the one something of doing his expression tutorial or expression series and I'm thinking of doing that to where we start from the beginning and it goes in a more like programming in depth like here's what you would do this and whatever you know versus like hey this is cool affect saga expression as this is like a snippet of code and aftereffects that you can use it to like run other things basically like to thank you for telling love with you like Eric got it the only link things together or dynamiting bitcoin what I wish I've missed out on that pretty heavily it's kind of like you can take some have liked for controls of you can bring up your own control to control multiple layers of different things there really powerful you do a lot of stuff with it that's kind of convert topic to actually specifically explain and like one now how do better under five cents IR Inc. in your elevator and yeah write it up yet what I mean that's why we this is the podcasts good you can kinda take the time to explain something that's a little confusing that's why you're doing these videos it's it's hard to I we do video for almost everything now like I don't want to do any phone calls with clients because this is so much visual stuff and it's like now now let's do phone I'll go now let's just reschedule it because it's not you can try to explain to me like guess some things in the talking like this create a ruling, is to help you, Howdy pixels we talk about the early pixels right well you know never that, that's the measurement you use pocket pocket five it is these things up there on what you like to now turn on speaking of in the camera like so I also production stuff and having having those around my house is great but then I'm watching the dictatorial and like color grading and that she's talking to me like what you talking I like the this morning I was watching something about collaborating in and she's like okay so were to repair this thing like prepare what are you talking about I turn mine off yeah it's it's hard my kids see the file, change the names of the notes I can think of something else like Beyoncé my uncle had ever detached his door from it because people if you can eat if you are outside you said open deluxe open Gloriana jet open a door ceiling again, and detach the snow yet he has his whole house Morehouse hooked up to the Lexan problem was that he was a humongous queue society like let's open the door and open the door from the thought of Isaac this is not good now you baby girl it's been well hey baby girl.you doing about I can't believe it took this long to get keyless entry door houses like what we had our car for 15 years I said I go for the stupid metal key in my house, I agree right but always late and I think always get the one like we've got technologies in a failure at some point so get the analog, you can always put the key and if you need to that we have a thumbprint one fingerprint one and I'm like this thing to break I want something that hasn't punch code I thought finger print and then also an addict glory hole for your key because that's my theory with all like that, smart home stuff if I can't turn on the lights physically that I don't want to have a yeah my app to do it. Let's carry I could I feel like I have bad luck with a lot of stuff to do and it'll break down and the moment you need it the most have had that happen to me a couple times were used have a wink that was controlling stuff. It's a hub okay it's like all the other that she went had Home Depot to get like loud laugh I do since then live in Like that I'll actually have since been able to put that into my Phillips you set up which is nice that works like instantly and great but the week one would like fail at random times and latency for the morning like a camera to go to sleep a good turn off lights and it just doesn't yeah like okay great I like the power goes off and for some reason it set to automatically like turn them on slick power is off you I do like I do like this I use I have TTT for a lot of that and I do we have the Phillips you in our place for a few lights and I like I like that it will turn the lights red if there's like a smoke detector goes off were there or something like that you take in warmth or chicken gas station chicken warm bread whatever fried chicken we have laying around it interests automatically turn to that that this martyrdom stuff scares me that it's kind of why we I don't have one of the any of the voice activated things at her house I'm fine with that here is God knows what she thinks we talk about in this room when the vice will verify the calyx profile please yeah know they got a dossier on is what I mean they can't really advertise to us because it's so were so random over the paragraph and I don't think they did like in one sentence will talk about Lexi sleep that what is sensory deprivation tank and like great cubes you know that's going to call that guy's attached is a business that is how far we in here what's the minute count for producer think we gotta wrap it up in the minutes or something here that tells you that Jesus go to the letter sounds like you're done and I think we started at, 20 I think were 45 ends up 40 minutes boom I found it any advice just made that up like that fixed it if you any advice you want to give out there anything short you want to throw out there that I didn't pre-ask you what you want to talk about like a good host would anything in your industry any or reduce pitch about some if you want me like I said before tubes copying people that's a big thing you know I feel like there's a lot of people that just some kids like it because my wife the teacher right so a lot of times the the there is the you get like the two groups I feel like now there's like kids that really want to learn something in there like driven to you know do whatever and then you are, I guess is probably true of all generations but in whatever way I see now being old 34-year-old so if your you have these other people that basically want to been given to them now like and if I feel it's a little bit more than when I was a kid probably because when I was a kid he had let go to an encyclopedia or you know whatever the lake gets information and now it's just like people just like old you didn't tell me exactly how to do it you know and and I've that's kind of what my tutorials are kind of geared to not do look, I want to know the reason though because I think it's frustrating to double back when you're in the middle of that right now the reason is that you learn one way and the other way you don't learn like if you you either learn how to get information or you learn how to like figure out how to get information so you think the speed that common I saw was like why can't you tell might slow it down and no break everything down you think more Darwinism like that's just half sometimes as people are people that are learning in on their there just new to it they don't understand the people that leave comments now is the final test this I don't know the board laying out three comments on YouTube his comments on YouTube narcissistic I had to read the ones were never on arms at every site I think a reply to pretty much everybody I replied nicely and the guy the try to accuse me of actually like stealing some else's tutorial or something 1000 interesting where is basically just like okay so people can have the same idea that's not loud apparently and I'm supposed to know what everybody else in the tutorial spaces that were occasionally has some data set this is my reply was like okay will assuming I stole this one what about the other like 70 done at that time right what about that that the other guy 70 guys like was like people commenting on when I did like 60 back or something like what okay they probably saw one the copied of you that I think you got it okay yeah I've had comedian still my material and I don't there's not much you can do about it except confront them but usually I they die out anyway yeah and I don't I'm not worried about it and now lives I've seen people that are basically like within a few days posted to the world that similar to mine is different enough or whatever but I'm like I don't care yeah yeah it's funny to read their comment silicone man you're the only person on YouTube doing the stuff it's like that's funny because I get that sink in a comment like Virgo that we had people accusing us or throwing up illuminati gang signs during the podcast address like that the likely like that I don't know I don't know really what I was reading a lot of the stuff left will follow to us, like I'm not big on social justice stuff obviously got really a thing whatever but anyway yeah one thing is really feeling all right one thing is funny is that you said you see the thing if you were doing this like okay oh will do everything under the now everything I know it looks like wipeout like they like so some of the people that were like in this thing we visited a watch on YouTube is his name is that somehow it all okay humble some black eye and a couple other people like any work you really did like this like dealer's like the slick white power thing is like a joke you know like and but they got it like actually get news on it like you were calling this like some kind of whites only making the symbol the index after the other three fingers up yeah you don't want to lick you the okay dive symbol you know like that okay Moji just turns out that yeah the other for the penal perfect whatever but I thought you're going to go on the one is the game that came back from our middle school early high school days is you can take the okay you put it on your thigh whatever Melissa has people your bell ever if someone looks at it get to punch in the stupid ship I never initially combine that together it's dark back like Smirnov whatever the kneeling Smirnov nice that I went back to its back than the national championship photo of Alabama one guy was for the players is doing it which is where ever he that's like an 18-year-old kid doesn't know at school if all right dad I think it's funny there's a people doing it I don't have a type of super professional meeting at the White House meeting people there to have fun it that I mean it's funny but you know all I fall is like 50 or barstool sports like Friday old room science Yep again I got a question so how do you manage expectations for some of the new artist that you meet as far as getting into the industry I don't think it's really think people have a lot of like doom and gloom unlike other semi people doing it whatever but there's not so many good people so like a lot of times that I am trying to get in I get I get a lot of work coming in and then I have nobody to farm it to know because a lot of times it's just there's nobody good around you know you just have to be like like hone your skills don't just say oh well I don't use aftereffect so here you go you know like you can't really have the idea that people should just be giving you money you know and in you just have to kind of like just like learners that you know you cannot sit there and after effects and like yeah or wherever programmer using phenolics and their actually actively learning and experimenting and that you're not really gonna grow to the level that you working late you know get extra work and stuff you know because otherwise you're just doing whatever belts does so you're just taking that basil yeah you know it's obvious it's a prerequisite that you know this program in order to make stuff but you need to like work on it more in order to learn things about it have talent you deftly need talent yeah I mean yeah I have an eye for the best person is or talented enough you there's nothing I'm on called the mow grass like whatever it's hashtag motion design.com and that's there's a lot of like people hanging out in there and sharing knowledge about different things and I feel like I've got a lot of stuff no just from them and just you know people have liked met online you know it okay want to do this work and sometimes even people send me an idea for tutorial that way okay I don't do tutorials but you and I can do whatever and I shot a mountain I can assure what they have so I think I think you need to get I saw that you've added yourself in the beginning of as intro I think Geico picture-in-picture have your your you countries to shot you are doing it sure, then I get that I get the problem of well I do like cuts because I'm try to keep them short so that was my other goal when I first heard it was like really keeping him shortly I got tired of twirl that like 40 minutes long in the show like the same thing also in three minutes notes like Goldmine the cuts are thinking on the front they understand that your skip and I'm saying I ran inside should you do picture-in-picture and have you in the time a tiny box of bottom just so they don't know gastric almost branding yourself a little bit in a way you couldn't and I don't have to record yourself at the exact same time searching her cut down there again when you're just doing a voiceover you sure you could but mean you can do OB we started doing it with the how to tutorials we do website for someone which would shoot like seven of those and will I want to mess around with that OBS picture-in-picture thing so that our thing is we want to show them there's a human behind this living I did and it didn't intro that's what started doing I think you can intro but I might actually do a little like a cutaway because that might be a little easier for me to shoehorn into the way I do everything that's kind of how I'm planning on doing that one series is a guy who's watermark your face at the thought of the bug cut out yeah that IBM gets the job whatever it is I think I think you are workbench workbenches you kind of thing now but is that things like you may develop something a couple years down the line that you are expert for this intermediate to advanced area sure they work. People may want to book you workbench we have a we talked about with this like there's opportunities for us to do business kinda commie business stuff I we got a role or producer showing cue cards it says 57+ we got we got a lot about you a lot a bunch a lot a bunch of work to do picture coming on and anything else you know Damon now Matt is fun bossing your mouth back here I like I like having you as the produce. Yeah and I is inviting whiteboard and now as put in a request for whiteboards and sharpies and so will have and will have the display screen you see that professionalism here that audio jack going yeah yeah