Back for his third appearance on the show, the Grandfather of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in Australia does not disappoint. John is not one to shy away from sharing his iconic views about the Australian jiu jitsu landscape. No need to say more - listen to this episode!

P.S. Did you know we can also be found the links below, and anywhere else great podcasts are!

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/roll-or-die/id1519037518

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA98zTuWibpR5L_vjpRWHIg

https://www.facebook.com/rollordiepodcast/

https://www.instagram.com/roll_or_die_podcast/

https://open.spotify.com/show/2BHJ2tB4H5GLB8IImRFcXq

https://australian-podcasts.com/podcast/roll-or-die

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