Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal

What happens when a child no longer has to convince their parent that their pain was real?

In this episode of Choosing Different Mini Series, Hali sits down with her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth, for a short, unscripted conversation about one of the most healing things a parent can offer: belief. They talk about the three quiet ways parents unintentionally dismiss a child's experience - through differing memories, good intentions, and simple unawareness - and why none of those things make a child's pain any less real.

Join Us: Becoming Together Mother-Daughter Retreat 

If this conversation resonated with you, we'd love for you to join us in person. We're hosting a Becoming Together Mother Daughter Retreat in Sedona, AZ, September 8–12. 

Join us: FREE Parenting Through the Wreckage Webinar on Wednesday, August 12, 2026 at 5pm Pacific

Get support for your children:  Witnessed Group Coaching program led by Morgan Ellsworth. 

Connect with Morgan Ellsworth: [email protected]

Instagram: @healing.betrayed.families 

Podcast: Healing Betrayed Families

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Connect With Me + Continue Your Healing

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate these upcoming experiences: 

The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9th in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉The Six Ways Betrayal Hides In Your Body

 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal

👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal

Upcoming Group Coaching: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a group coaching program focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

👉 Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist!

Connect With Me + Continue Your Healing

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉⁠ ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠⁠

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👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.mykajabi.com⁠

August 4th is Intimate Partner Betrayal Awareness Day — a day set aside to say out loud what so many of you have been carrying in silence: that what happened to you was real, that it mattered, and that it deserves to be named.

Today I'm sitting down with Andrea Rogers. Andrea is a Board Certified Coach and a Certified Partner Coach with APSATS — that's the Association of Partners of Sex Addict Trauma Specialists. She's also a Brainspotting practitioner, the founder of Fully Alive Coaching, and she works with women using something called the Multidimensional Partner Trauma Model. And Andrea isn't just doing this work from the outside — she's a betrayal trauma survivor herself, which is a big part of why this conversation matters.

If you've ever felt like you were "too much" for reacting the way you did, or wondered if you were losing your mind — this conversation is for you.

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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Join the ⁠Help Her Heal weekly support group⁠ for men working to rebuild trust and create safety.

Sign up for my ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list⁠ to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. 

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s),⁠ ⁠complete this interest list⁠⁠ for more information about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.

The⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah.

⁠Email Hali⁠⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠

👉⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉 ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist!⁠

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are a betrayed partner, I also host a second podcast called ⁠Rooted & Rising Healing After Betrayal,⁠ created specifically for women healing from betrayal trauma.

This show offers grounded, trauma-informed conversations, solo reflections, and tools to help you reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and rise with clarity and strength.

👉 ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing After Betrayal⁠

Join My Newsletter

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👉⁠⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠⁠

Connect With Me Between Episodes

Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.

👉 Instagram:⁠⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠⁠

👉 Facebook:⁠⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠⁠

👉 Website:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠rootedandrisinghealing.com⁠⁠⁠⁠

This is the first episode of the Choosing Different mini-series of conversations between Hali and her two adult daughters, who were both teenagers when their family was in the thick of betrayal and dysfunction. Instead of letting that experience pull them apart, they've been doing the slow, unglamorous work of healing, learning each other again, and trying to break some of the generational patterns they grew up with. They are upfront that they don't have it all figured out. 

This isn't a highlight reel - it's a real, sometimes messy conversation, shared in case it helps open a door in your own family.

 In this episode, they talk about what it means to relate to each other as two adults instead of parent and child, how to choose curiosity over criticism, navigating marriage and relationships as an adult child, supporting each other's dreams, showing up emotionally, and, at the heart of it, what healthy repair after a rupture actually looks like. 

If this conversation resonated with you, we'd love for you to join us in person. We're hosting a Becoming Together Mother Daughter Retreat in Sedona, AZ, September 8–12. 

Join Us: Becoming Together Mother-Daughter Retreat 

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💬 Join the Community — Connect with others who are navigating this same journey. You don't have to do this alone. 

📲 Share This Episode — Know someone who needs to hear this? Send it to them. Share it on your social media. You never know who might be waiting for exactly this conversation.

If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. I create trauma-informed resources, conversations, and learning experiences to support individuals and couples navigating infidelity, betrayal trauma, and relational repair.

Connect With Me + Continue Your Healing

Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Sign up for my Rooted and Rising Healing mailing list to stay informed of all upcoming resources and events where we can connect. 

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate these upcoming experiences: 

The Revive and Thrive Somatic Healing Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9th in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.

Email Hali⁠ to join the⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉The Six Ways Betrayal Hides In Your Body

 👉A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal

👉Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal

Upcoming Group Coaching: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a group program focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity - without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

👉 Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist!

Connect With Me + Continue Your Healing

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉⁠ ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠⁠

There's a particular kind of exhaustion that comes from loving someone's potential. You keep showing up for who they could be while quietly absorbing who they actually are — and somewhere in there, you start to disappear.

In this episode, we reframe overfunctioning not as a generosity problem or a character flaw, but as a way of keeping hope alive so that grief stays at arm's length.

We explore why grief can feel more dangerous than effort — because effort feels active and hopeful and in our control, while grief feels like giving up. We look at the difference between potential and patterns, and why the more honest question isn't whether someone is capable of meeting a need, but whether they do, consistently, over time, including under stress.

Finally, we talk about what it looks like to stop — to grieve the relationship you hoped for so you can see the one you actually have, to tell the difference between deserving to have a need met and believing you have to earn the right to ask, and to step out of the audition altogether. Because you don't earn love by disappearing. Recognizing what you deserve starts the moment you stop trying to earn it.

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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), ⁠complete this interest list⁠ for more information about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.

Complete this⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

The⁠ ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah.

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠⁠

👉⁠⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉⁠ ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist to be the first to Register!⁠⁠

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉⁠ ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠⁠

Join My Newsletter

Stay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.

👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠

Connect With Me Between Episodes

Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.

👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠

👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠

👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.mykajabi.com⁠

After betrayal, the hardest emotion to let yourself feel often isn't sadness or anger — it's joy. A good moment arrives and instead of sinking into it, you brace, waiting for the other shoe to drop.

In this episode, I unpack why that happens: how a nervous system wired for protection can read joy as risk, and why bracing against happiness is a survival response rather than a personal failing. We talk about Brené Brown's idea of "foreboding joy," why pain can feel safer than openness, and how healing involves teaching your body that peace and joy aren't traps. Then we get practical, with small, repeatable ways to build your tolerance for feeling good again — no forced gratitude, no pretending you're further along than you are.

If you've ever caught yourself flinching at your own happiness, this one's for you.

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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. I create trauma-informed resources, conversations, and learning experiences to support individuals and couples navigating infidelity, betrayal trauma, and relational repair.

Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), ⁠sign up for my upcoming retreat⁠ - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.

Complete this⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

The⁠ ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠⁠

👉⁠⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉⁠ ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist to be the first to Register!⁠⁠

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉⁠ ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠⁠

Join My Newsletter

Stay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.

👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠

Connect With Me Between Episodes

Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.

👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠

👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠

👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.mykajabi.com⁠

Have you been doing all the healing work, the books, the journaling, the prayer, the deciding to trust again, and your body still won't settle? You're exhausted but can't rest. You're holding everything together on the outside while bracing for the next blow on the inside. If that's you, this episode is a reminder: there is nothing wrong with you.

In this episode, I talk about survival mode after betrayal: what happens in the body and nervous system when trauma keeps us in a prolonged state of high alert, and why it so often hides behind competence and caretaking. We explore hypervigilance, the exhaustion you can't rest your way out of, the numbness that can settle in even when life looks good, and the real physical toll of living in chronic stress.

Most importantly, we talk about why you can't simply think your way out of survival mode, and why true healing has to include the body, not just the mind or the will. I'll share gentle, practical ways to begin signaling safety to your nervous system, along with an honest reminder about when it's time to lean on a trauma-informed professional.

If you've felt broken for not "getting over it" faster, this one is for you.

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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), sign up for my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.

Complete this⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

The⁠ ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah.

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠⁠

👉⁠⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉⁠ ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist to be the first to Register!⁠⁠

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉⁠ ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠⁠

Join My Newsletter

Stay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.

👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠

Connect With Me Between Episodes

Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.

👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠

👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠

👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.mykajabi.com⁠

We've all said it: "That would be a deal breaker for me." But what happens when the thing you swore you'd never tolerate actually happens, and you find yourself still choosing to stay and work things out?

In this episode, we're talking about deal breakers and non-negotiables in betrayal recovery, without the pressure to be tougher or to draw a harder line, and without telling you to abandon your standards. Instead, we explore what it means to make decisions from a place of self-compassion rather than ultimatum.

Most of all, this is a reminder that you're allowed to change your mind. As you heal and reconnect with your own inner authority, you'll naturally start to recognize what you can and can't live with, not because you forced a hard line, but because you've grown into your own clarity.

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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. I create trauma-informed resources, conversations, and learning experiences to support individuals and couples navigating infidelity, betrayal trauma, and relational repair.

Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), ⁠sign up for my upcoming retreat⁠ - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.

Complete this⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

The⁠ ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠⁠

👉⁠⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉⁠ ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist to be the first to Register!⁠⁠

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉⁠ ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠⁠

Join My Newsletter

Stay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.

👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠

Connect With Me Between Episodes

Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.

👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠

👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠

👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.mykajabi.com⁠

When betrayal scrambles your sense of what's real, clarity can feel impossible. In this episode, I sit down with coach and master NLP practitioner Betsy Pake to talk about how women find their way back to their own truth when everything feels overwhelming.

Betsy works with women navigating the painful question of whether to stay in or leave a marriage, and she brings a refreshingly non-prescriptive approach: the goal isn't to be told what to do, it's to reconnect with what you already know.

Whether you're deep in the fog or just starting to come up for air, this conversation offers honest, grounded encouragement for taking the next small step.

Connect with Betsy Pake: 

www.betsypake.com

www.instagram.com/betsypake

Use code "rooted" for 50% off The Bridge. Betsy’s self paced program for women in her first steps of clarity. https://betsypake.com/the-bridge/

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Connect With Me + Continue Your Healing

If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone. I create trauma-informed resources, conversations, and learning experiences to support individuals and couples navigating infidelity, betrayal trauma, and relational repair.

Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), ⁠sign up for my upcoming retreat⁠ - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.

Complete this⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

The⁠ ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah and offers a structured, trauma-informed space to understand betrayal trauma, regulate your nervous system, and rebuild self-trust.

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠⁠

👉⁠⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉⁠ ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist to be the first to Register!⁠⁠

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉⁠ ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠⁠

Join My Newsletter

Stay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.

👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠

Connect With Me Between Episodes

Join me on social media for continued conversation, encouragement, and resources between podcast episodes.

👉 Instagram:⁠ ⁠@rootedandrising.healing⁠⁠

👉 Facebook:⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Healing with Hali Roderick⁠⁠

👉 Website:⁠⁠ ⁠rootedandrisinghealing.mykajabi.com⁠

What if everything you've been taught about self-care is keeping you stuck? In this episode, we reframe self-care as what it actually is — compassionate, essential, and foundational to real healing — not a luxury spa day you earn after you're already burned out.

If you've ever set aside a big block of "me time" only to feel like the whole day is ruined the moment it falls apart, this one's for you. We talk about black-and-white thinking around self-care, why crisis-only care leaves you running on empty, and how scattering small, intentional moments throughout your day helps you anchor into your body before you hit the wall — not just after.

You'll walk away with a full menu of free, doable micro moments and rituals you can fold into an ordinary, imperfect day: sun on your face, mindful eating, a quick walk, breathwork, soft music, candles and incense, connection with safe people and pets, guided meditation, grounding techniques, and more.

This is the mindset shift that turns self-care from an event you attend or miss into a thread you carry all day long.

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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone.

Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), ⁠complete this interest list⁠ for more information about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.

If you and your partner are ready to move beyond survival mode and reconnect on a deeper level, the Rise and Renew Couples Retreat offers an immersive healing experience in Costa Rica from July 30 - August 3. 

Complete this⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

The Revive and Thrive Somatic⁠⁠⁠ takes place October 6-9, 2026 in Spanish Fork, Utah.

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠⁠

👉⁠⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉⁠ ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist to be the first to Register!⁠⁠

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Bitterness after betrayal is one of the most misunderstood parts of the healing journey. In today’s episode, I sit down with Tesa Saulmon, Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Certified Sex Addiction Therapist, and founder of Root to Bloom Therapy, to have an honest, compassionate conversation about what bitterness really is, why "just forgive" can actually cause harm, and what the path from resentment to empowerment genuinely looks like.

About Our Guest:

Tesa Saulmon, LMHC, CSAT, CCPS is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Certified Sex Addiction Therapist, and founder of Root to Bloom Therapy based in Pensacola, Florida. Tesa works with betrayed spouses, betraying partners, and couples navigating the painful aftermath of betrayal using trauma-informed care and faith-integrated support that honors the real complexity of healing. She provides therapy throughout Florida via telehealth and travels for therapeutic disclosures and intensives.

Connect with Tesa:

• Website
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• Email: [email protected]

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If today’s episode resonated with you, you don’t have to walk the healing journey after betrayal alone.

Here are a few ways to stay connected and continue your healing:

Join me at a Retreat or Intensive

If you’re craving deeper, in-person support and embodied healing, I’m helping facilitate upcoming experiences created specifically for betrayed partners.

If you're ready for a deeper connection with your daughter(s), ⁠complete this interest list⁠ for more information about my upcoming retreat - Becoming Together: A Mother Daughter Retreat - hosted by myself and my two daughters in Sedona, Arizona on September 8 - 12th.

If you and your partner are ready to move beyond survival mode and reconnect on a deeper level, the Rise and Renew Couples Retreat offers an immersive healing experience in Costa Rica from July 30 - August 3. 

Complete this⁠⁠⁠ Interest list for an upcoming course for parents called Intentional Parenting After Betrayal⁠⁠⁠⁠, hosted by Hali and her daughter, Morgan Ellsworth. 

The⁠ ⁠⁠Courage to Thrive Betrayal Trauma Intensive⁠⁠⁠ takes place August 25-28 in Spanish Fork, Utah.

Free Resources & Downloads

Access free tools, guided practices, and educational resources designed to support nervous system regulation, self-trust, boundaries, and clarity after betrayal.

👉⁠⁠A Mini Guide to Mindful Healing After Betrayal⁠⁠

👉⁠⁠Your First Steps to Rising After Betrayal⁠⁠

Upcoming Course: Reclaiming You After Betrayal

If you’re ready for deeper guidance in a structured, supportive format, I am offering a course focused on healing after betrayal, rebuilding self-trust, and grounding into your values and identity—without rushing decisions about staying or leaving.

This course is ideal for those who want support without individual coaching and at a pace that honors their nervous system.

👉⁠ ⁠Join the Reclaiming You Waitlist to be the first to Register!⁠⁠

Listen to My Other Podcast

If you are still in your relationship—or in the process of discerning whether you want to stay—I invite you to also follow my podcast, Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal, where I speak to both partners about healing, accountability, and rebuilding trust.

👉⁠ ⁠Choosing to Stay After Infidelity and Betrayal⁠⁠

Join My Newsletter

Stay connected through my newsletter, where I share reflections, trauma-informed insights, and updates on upcoming courses, workshops, retreats, and live experiences.

👉⁠ ⁠Rooted and Rising Weekly⁠⁠

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