Host Ruben Navarrette has a timely and critically important conversation with his old friend of nearly 40 years, Arnold Torres, a Sacramento CA-based policy analyst, political commentator & Spanish-language radio host. As a lifelong observer of politics and immigration -- and the politics of the immigration debate -- Torres is horrified by what he is seeing take place in Minnesota, which has been invaded by federal ICE agents. He has three things he desperately wants to talk about with his old friend: the fact that the federal government is abusing its power in Minnesota and other places; the necessary conversation that he thinks needs to take place about state's rights and the 10th Amendment provides the mechanism to push back against federal overreach; and the pathetic lack of leadership being served up by Latino elected officials, who are busy hiding from this crisis impacting the community they claim to represent. Navarrette agrees with Torres, except where he doesn't. Then, as usual with these two, sparks fly.