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Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Mark Bates
This week on My Ruby Story, Chuck talks with Mark Bates who is a consultant, trainer, entrepreneur, co-founder of PaperCall, and an author! Chuck and Mark talk about PaperCall, GO, Ruby, JavaScript, and helping others within the community. Check out today’s episode to hear more!
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0:00 – Get A Coder Job!
0:59 – Chuck: Hi! I saw we were on Episode 198! We talked about Ruby and different communities.
1:25 – Guest: Yes, we were talking about the conference we were trying to start, which never took-off!
1:50 – Chuck: You talked about how you are working with GO now. You are an author, too!
2:06 – Guest: That came out in 2009. My 2nd son was born the day before that went to print.
2:42 – Chuck: How many kids do you have?
2:47 – Guest: I have 2 kids.
3:00 – Chuck: Happy Birthday buddy! Let’s talk about your journey into and out of Ruby!
3:15 – Guest: I will be happy to.
3:23 – Chuck:
3:27 – Guest: I have a degree in music and studied guitar in England. I came back in 1999 and needed a job. If you could spell HTML then it was good – then if you could work with it then it was even better!
The guest mentions Liverpool, England.
4:20 – Guest: I got a job and transitioned into other things. Fell in-love with Java at the time – and then moved into straight development. I needed money, I had skills into it, and then I fell in-love with
5:10 – Chuck: What aspect in music are you into?
5:14 – Guest: I am a singer/songwriter, and yes into guitar.
5:57 – Chuck: Yeah, they used to have jam sections at conferences.
6:37 – Chuck: I find in interesting how much crossover there is between music and programming/coding. I hear them say: I found I needed to build a site for the band and whatnot.
7:25 – Guest: Yeah, I can do view source and I can figure out that I am missing a tag. That put me ahead in 1997 and 1998! I had done some work that.
8:57 – Chuck: You don’t even have to generate a JavaScript project with that – can I find the template and can I go?
9:14 – Guest: Yes programming has come a long way.
9:22 – Chuck: It is interesting, though. When we talk about those things – it was a different time but I don’t know if it was easier/harder for people to come into the career field now.
9:52 – Guest: Yes, I am into the educational side of it, too. There was a lack of books on the subject back-in-the-day. There is almost too much material now.
Guest: I do a Google search that will give me something that is most recent. There is no reason to have to dig through material that isn’t relevant anymore.
Guest: I used NOTEPAD to write websites.
11:29 – Chuck: Yes, and then Notepad plus, plus!
11:39 – Guest: Those days are gone. If you want to build a website you go to a company that does that now.
The guest refers to Kubernetes, Ruby, HTML, Sequel and much more!
12:55 – Guest: I see the new developers getting overwhelmed in the beginning they need to learn 10 languages at once. I am fortunate to have come into the industry when I did. I don’t envy them.
13:56 – Chuck: Talking about how complicated the Web is getting. What led you to Ruby on Rails?
14:12 – Guest: In 2004 – I just finished a Java project that had roughly 100,000 lines of configuration!! Everything in Java at that point was XML configuration.
I didn’t like debugging XML – and it wasn’t fun. I was refiguring out my career. Everything at the time was XML and more XML! I didn’t want to be in that world. I quit developing completely for 2 years. I worked as an internship in a recording studio for a while. I got to work with a lot of great people, but there was a lack of money and lack of general employment. We wanted to have kids and at the end of 2005 a friend mentioned Ruby on Rails. He told me that it’s NOT Java and that I would love it. I installed it and found an old cookbook tutorial and immediately I said: THAT’s what I want programming to be. When did you pick up Ruby on Rails?
18:14 – Chuck: I picked it up when I worked for...and I was doing Q&A customer service.
19:05 – Guest: Yeah, he hooked me for sure – that jerk! I really got into this book! Check it out! It changed my career and web development entirely. For all the grief we give Rails it did change the world.
20:40 – Chuck: What have you done in Ruby that you are particularly proud of?
20:50 – Guest: Most proud running Boston RB. We had so many people show up!
22:49 – Chuck: You talk about those things and that’s why I ask the question in the first place. And it turns out that: I did THIS thing in the community! I like talking to people and helping people.
23:31 – Guest: Yes, I get to work and help people all around the world. Sweet! I get to go in and help people. It gives me the time to contribute to open source and go to Slack. I have a career based around: Helping People! I like the code that I created, but I like the community stuff I have done over the years.
24:31 – Chuck: Yep my career coach wanted me to create a vision/mission statement for DevChat T.V. We make a difference and people make career changes b/c they are getting help and information
25:23 – Guest: Making a living off of helping people is a great feeling!
25:44 – Guest: The contents of the book are wildly out-of-date, but the origin story is hysterical. I went to a conference in 2008 and was just laid-off in October 2008. I got into a hot tub in Orlando and someone started talking to me about my recent talk. By the way, never write a book – don’t do it!
28:18 – Chuck: Sounds like a movie plot to me!
28:25 – Guest: Oh no – that’s not a good movie idea!
28:50 – Chuck and Guest go back-and-forth with a pretend movie: who would play you?
29:15 – Chuck: Let’s talk about PaperCall?
29:23 – Guest: I hated that (for conferences) you had to enter in a lot of different forms (2-3 proposals) for one conference. This bothered me and was very time-consuming.
31:45 – Guest & Chuck talking about saving time.
32:37 – Chuck: What are you doing now?
32:42 – Guest: Yeah, I get to go around and help engineers and open source exclusively.
33:48 – Chuck: How did you get into GO?
33:53 – Guest: In about 2012 I started looking into GO.
The guest talks about the benefits and why he likes GO!
36:28 – Guest: What you see is what you get in GO, which is what I like!
39:13 – Chuck: It is an interesting language, and I haven’t played around with it as much as I would like to. I love trying new things, and see how it solves problems.
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42:00 – Chuck: Picks!
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Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Michael King
This week on My Ruby Story, Chuck talks with Michael King who is a developer, an enthusiast for natural languages, developing, and mathematics. Charles and Michael talk about his background, and past/current projects that Michael is working on right now. Other topics of discussion include Ruby, Rails, Audacity, PHP, RubyMotion, and React Native. Check it out!
In particular, we dive pretty deep on:
0:00 – Get A Coder Job!
0:58 – Chuck: Say “hi” Michael! Introduce yourself.
1:12 – Michael: I am a big language learner: Spanish, Portuguese and Chinese. I learned through T.V. and music. I decided to build an app that helped with languages. I started doing it.
1:50 – Chuck: You hired a developer and had no idea what the developer what was doing. How do you make that transition? They just go with it – right? How did you decide: no, I have to understand THIS.
2:25 – Guest: It’s either I am really into it or I am NOT into it. I have been always very good with mathematics. The computer broke when I was in school and the only option we had were these...He was writing all these variables and I loved variables.
The guest talks about Ruby, Rails, and Audacity!
4:08 – Chuck: You talk about natural languages – I see the correlation sometimes and sometimes I don’t. I learned French in school, and then I became fluent in Italian during my Mormon missionary trips.
4:56 – Guest: I am reading this book right now and you have to understand the technicians’ role in order to help lead him.
The guest talks about the differences between coding, natural languages, and mathematics.
5:50 – Chuck: Did you let your developer go? Or did you keep him around?
6:03 – Guest: I let him go actually b/c he was on for a part-time basis. I started coding myself. I got help from friends and I got help from a lot of other people. I would ask them tons of questions and form a friendly relationship with them. From there, it snowed-ball from there!
6:57 – Guest: From that experience, I learned a lot. If I had to REDO what I did originally, then I would have done the following things differently...
7:44 – Chuck: I can identify with that – I was a freelancer for 8-9 years. I would build something and then they say: that’s not what we hired you to build.
8:10 – Guest: They wonder why they are getting this feedback?
8:22- Chuck: Why Ruby on Rails?
8:27 – Guest: I didn’t know the difference between mobile frameworks and web frameworks.
9:01 – Chuck: Yeah I don’t like the word “dumb” either.
9:09 – Guest: Ruby was very smooth and I liked it. I got addicted to the process through the Rails way and the Ruby syntax.
9:46 – Chuck: Same for me. I have done PHP before but when I got into Rails it naturally flowed into the way I wanted to work on stuff. I get it.
10:12 – Chuck: What are you working on now?
10:19 – Guest: This project that I have been working on now for 1.5 years.
11:41 – Chuck: You talked about how you picked up React Native.
11:52 – Guest: Yes, yes.
12:39 – Chuck: How did you settle on React Native?
12:50 – Guest talks about the Spanish and English languages.
13:25 – Chuck: I am curious – why didn’t you go with RubyMotion?
13:34 – Guest: I didn’t know anyone that could help me honestly. Also, I didn’t think it was going to be EASY to learn for me.
14:02 – Chuck: Is Reactive Native your main focus?
14:08 – Guest: No building just designing and putting it in front of people. I want to get a prototype to get more funding. I want to know EXACTLY what we are building.
14:40 – Chuck: For entrepreneurs, any advice for anything to get this rolling?
14:56 – Guest: If I had to do it again I would draw it out on paper and figure out how to get to MVP right away. I would try to get validation right away from not building too much
15:47 – Chuck: I am working on a service to help podcasters. They see that that I run 15 shows through DevChat.TV. If I can solve those three problems then I am golden: monetization and/or production. For scheduling guests it’s a pain point for most podcasters.
17:36 – Chuck: Some of the validation for me is talking to people through conferences and other venues. Main question is: What are you doing for scheduling? It takes a bunch of time.
Post to where people will get your content.
Have your guests promote it, too!
20:05 – Guest: Inviting people to the show.
20:13 – Chuck: This is the 16th interview this week so far! To give you an idea!
21:16 – Guest: You lost me along the way only b/c I don’t do podcasting. You know the problem b/c you are doing it, and you are within the field.
21:42 – Chuck: The more I talk to people the more I get ideas and such.
22:00 – Guest.
22:06 – Chuck: They are worried that their ideas are going to get stolen.
22:15 – Chuck: It’s interesting to see where it goes. I have 2 more interviews after this.
Michael, you see and say: what solutions can I provide?
23:03 – Chuck: Did we get into your mobile app then?
23:14 – Guest: It was really hard for me, but now I love coding. Getting it in front of people and testing it. I am trying to keep my education going. I learn by doing and learning by being thrown in to the fire. I am doing a free code camp now. Any suggestions, Chuck that you could offer?
24:35 – Chuck: Learning how to prioritize. What are you aiming at, and what goal are you trying to achieve? I want to make a video course on HOW to stay current?
25:12 – Chuck: Where can people find you?
25:18 – Guest: Twitter! There really isn’t an easy way to find me online – something I should probably fix.
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Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Paweł Dąbrowski
This week on My Ruby Story, Chuck talks with Paweł Dąbrowski who is a coder and author who resides in Poland. He is a blogger and writes about the Ruby language, Ruby on Rails, and related technologies. To read more about Paweł, please visit his ABOUT ME via his blog. Today, Chuck and Paweł talk about Ruby, Paweł’s background, and much more! Check it out.
In particular, we dive pretty deep on:
0:00 – Get A Coder Job!
0:55 – Chuck: This week I am talking with Paweł Dąbrowski who was on episode 366. Give us a brief description of who you are, please.
1:25 – Guest: I run a company and I am here b/c of the article I wrote. It was a nice introduction to...programming. I write in my blog and have written a few gems. I created a course how to build Ruby Flow. Also, I create Ruby code every day. I think that’s it.
2:19 – Chuck: I am curious, how did you get into programming?
2:30 – Guest: It all started in school when he asked me to create a website using HTML code. I fell in-love with it.
I didn’t want to give up and figured it all boils down to: “how bad do you want it?”
4:33 – Chuck: Yeah it was PHP for me, too. I could do dynamic things with this. I was a computer science major, and to build something REAL was amazing.
5:04 – Guest: Yes, when something works it’s amazing.
5:25 – Chuck: Yeah, when you realize you left out a semi-colon – oh no! In some ways, PHP was a friendly-way to do web development.
6:05 – Guest.
6:22 – Chuck: How old were you when you got paid for web development?
6:32 – Guest: I think I was sixteen years old and $50.00 was a fortune for me. I felt like a millionaire. It felt great to make money for something you love to do. It wasn’t work; I just enjoyed doing it.
7:07 – Chuck: That’s the magic!
7:14 – Guest: If you are doing something you love, then it’s great!
7:24 – Chuck: How did you go from PHP to one-page apps to Ruby?
7:35 – Guest: I didn’t like PHP at some point. I fell in-love with Ruby’s syntax. I was afraid that I wasn’t going to find a job. I wrote a programmer and told him that I have “no experience and no technical training...” I didn’t think it was possible, and he said that it was possible based on the work that I put in. I remember writing code in Ruby.
9:42 – Chuck: What drew you to Ruby?
9:48 – Guest: The community and the syntax. I love writing in Ruby, and I don’t know if I will switch my languages in the future. I want to create a more active Ruby community in Poland. I want to get junior developers involved.
10:29 – Chuck: Tell us about your blog!
10:40 – Guest: I started writing every day. I started in January and kept going for three months. I thought that was crazy, and so I wrote less frequently. I thought it was a game-changing decision for me b/c it took me to a new level. I wrote more, learned more, and it has given me visibility.
11:47 – Chuck: I have talked to people in various parts of the world. People say that it could be a barrier of only English-written blogs.
12:15 – Guest: I learned English once I got serious about coding/programming. I think it’s a disadvantage if you don’t know English.
12:35 – Chuck: What are you working on now?
12:40 – Guest: I am starting this project and decided to turn-it-up b/c at first it was experimental. I wanted to move people more in the Polish community. I write about soft skills and that developers should have those skills, too.
13:22 – Chuck: This episode won’t come out for a few months. If you want to plug that – you can if you are comfortable with it.
13:44 – Guest: I want to set-up interviews, and create a dictionary so people can check single words and their meaning and see what it looks like in another language. Also, working on the content of blogs, and maybe recording a video on HOW to code. I was involved in a webinar and starting my first conference. Give the
14:56 – Chuck: Where can people find you? How about your blog?
15:05 – Guest: Twitter! GitHub! Blog! LinkedIn!
15:27 – Chuck: Any recommendations for people who are getting into programming?
15:42 – Guest answers the question.
Guest: DOING and creating the stuff, and ultimately getting the experience. You can eventually find your dream job!
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Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Jérémie Bonal
This week on My Ruby Story, Chuck talks with Jérémie Bonal who works at Ekylibre. He is a web developer and he has been using Ruby for the past few years now. They talk about Jérémie’s background, Ruby, Ekylibre, past/current projects, and so much more! Check it out!
In particular, we dive pretty deep on:
0:00 – Get A Coder Job!
1:05 – Chuck: We are talking with Jérémie Bonal today. Tell us who you are!
1:21 – Guest: I am a web developer and I’ve been writing Ruby for about 2 ½ years now. I’ve been writing code now for 5 – 6 years.
1:54 – Chuck: I love writing in Ruby, too. Let’s get into your story. What’s the Ruby community like in France?
2:23 – Guest: It’s pretty dispersed in the town that I am living in right now (Bordeaux). We meet up through Meetups and chatting about everything and drinking beer. There are more Ruby communities in Paris.
3:23 – Chuck: Maybe one day I will make it out to Bordeaux. My grandmother was French and I thought it would be cool to see the different parts of France.
3:45 – Guest: Cycle through France.
3:53 – Chuck: My grandmother grew-up near Lyon.
4:02 – Guest: France is pretty small compared to the U.S. You can fit several towns in a single trip.
4:21 – Chuck: I do have a funny connection. When I lived in Italy for a few years I would show them a map of Utah and they thought CA was close to UT.
5:03 – Guest: Yes, it’s hard to conceptualize. From what I’ve heard it could be a road trip for Americans. It’s hard for me to wrap my head around that.
5:40 – Chuck talks about Disneyland and family topics.
Chuck: Let’s talk about you and your Ruby story. Are you hiring and where can they go?
6:20 – Guest: Yes we are! You can find us on our website.
6:57 – Chuck: Let’s talk about you – how did you get into programming?
7:00 – Guest: When I was young with calculators. My friends made games with it and it blew my mind. I tried to make sense of what the key words meant. Nothing worked and I got real puzzled. I went to college and in the first semester you didn’t choose a major – you just do a bit of everything. You learn some engineering, chemistry, math, etc. so people could find what they really wanted to do. I worked in Python and worked with graphs and all of those concepts. This is when I got into it. I planned on going into chemistry, but all my friends were getting into programming. They kept saying: keep doing programming. I caved-in and the rest is history.
9:02 – Chuck: What languages have you worked with?
9:09 – Guest lists the different languages. Guest started with Python 2.
9:30 – Chuck: We started with Java and C++. It’s interesting to compare the differences there. As we are talking about this – a lot of people think they NEED a computer science degree and others say: nah! I am curious what advantages did it give you?
10:12 – Guest: I was disillusioned about the whole thing. They taught me a lot but I didn’t know anything valuable. I learned Ruby and Ruby on Rails. I started building web apps and I got joy out of it. I thought I didn’t have any purpose with my new degree. I noticed in the conversations with my colleagues (who don’t have computer science background) I saw that I could solve patterns and I had a better vocabulary. I saw that I could apply it and that felt good.
12:37 – Chuck: Interesting. I found my degree helped with the low-level stuff and helped me to solve problems. I learned on the job, though, too. I feel like if you need the structured environment of a college environment – go for it! Or do a boot camp, etc.
13:21 – Guest: I learned Ruby and Ruby on Rails through a boot camp. I wished there were boot camps for my computer science courses. To solve MP this and that; getting into the basics and building a sold foundation in computer science in a short period of time.
14:06 – Chuck: I’ve thought about creating that curriculum.
14:36 – Chuck: It’s an interesting conversation to have. I think the boot camps will force the universities to adapt.
15:01 – Guest: Yes, the disconnect is pretty staggering. It must be kind of similar.
15:20 – Chuck: You graduated and you learned Ruby through boot camps?
15:29 – Guest: I felt like I didn’t know how to do anything constructive or valuable. I meld around for a while – I went to be an English teacher and other jobs. I found out about a boot camp in Bordeaux and I went to that. It was going to teach Web apps. I thought taking it would make my CV stronger. It was 9 weeks of Ruby, Ruby, and Ruby! Then the last 2 weeks building an actual app. I fell in-love and found my passion.
16:55 – Chuck: That mirrors my experience well. A friend introduced me to the Lamp Stack and then it clicked that this stuff is “cool.” Sounds like you made the same connect that I did.
17:46 – Guest: Yes, that’s how it went for me, too. The last few weeks we made an app and it was a travel app. It blew my mind that we made it in only 2 weeks and that people could use it!
19:05 – Chuck: Same thing for me. We were answering emails out of Thunder Bird, and we kept stepping on each other.
20:18 – Guest: I think my favorite is: I have a problem right now, and I can solve it myself. I can build a basic tool that will make my life easier.
20:40 – Chuck: Yep, that’s what I am doing right now. I am building in scheduling and all sort of stuff. The app is awesome and it feels like you have a super power.
21:10 – Guest: Yeah, it does whatever you want it to do.
21:20 – Chuck: What projects have you worked on?
21:22 – Guest: The project I mentioned about the travel itineraries. Then I worked with some classmates on another project around pharmaceuticals. It was cool to solve a problem. Then I played a small web player. I tried Raspberry and Raspberry Pi, and I was trying to build...
Since then I have been working with my current company. I was missing some parts of college b/c one of my projects was a graph gem.
I tried other things, too.
24:45 – Chuck: I know that Hanaumi is popular in the European market vs. U.S. market.
25:00 – Guest.
26:00 – Chuck: I have some theories as to WHY that is.
25:26 – Guest: I have a friend who moved to Elixir and never tried Hanaumi.
26:42 – Chuck: I have been playing with Elixir somewhat. I wanted to understand what people were experiencing.
27:02 – Guest: I liked the idea that...
27:48 – Chuck: What are you working on these days?
28:01 – Guest.
29:53 – Chuck: When you find the position of CEO or my job you learn a lot about that stuff. When you are running a business you learn about marketing and other business topics. You talked about replicating a gem. What did you learn through that process?
30:30 – Guest.
32:20 – Chuck: You are learning more about management? What resources do you use?
32:26 – Guest: I read a lot of Medium articles. I am a huge fan of management articles, and Basecamp. Also, your newsletter, Chuck!
33:30 – Chuck: Anything else?
33:33 – Guest: Social Platforms – Medium.
33:58 – Chuck: Where can we find you?
34:00 – Guest answers the question.
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Panel: Charles Max Wood
Guest: Daniel P. Clark
This week on My Ruby Story, Chuck talks with Daniel Clark who is a Ruby and Rust enthusiast, blogger, and freelancer. Daniel and Chuck talk about Daniel’s background, and his past/current projects. Check out today’s episode!
In particular, we dive pretty deep on:
0.00 – Advertisement – GET A CODER JOB!
0:58 – Guest: Hi!
1:01 – Chuck: Introduce yourself real quick, please, and what are you known for?
1:08 – Guest: My blog posts – I write about about Ruby. I have a few projects that are well known: Faster Path among others.
1:35 – Chuck: We had you on a past episode, 368 Ruby Rogues. Where do you write?
1:49 – Guest: I am a contractor and I write blog posts for them.
1:58 – Chuck: Let’s talk about you! How did you get into programming?
2:07 – Guest: My dad is a programmer and before 5th grade I got a computer and no Internet. I tried things to see how things worked. I wrote from the top down – recipe style. I really enjoyed programming back then. Later in life, Java was the next big thing and for me to get into it was harder. I got a book and figured out how to compile it. I stopped programming when I wrote HELLO WORLD! I came across Python at some time. At the same style I wrote my Q basic programs, things were more functional. That’s my entry into programming.
4:05 – Chuck: What got you into Python?
4:13 – Guest: The syntax in Java hurt in writing. With Python when I first started out it felt like it wasn’t asking me more than what I needed to do. It was very simple for me.
4:38 – Chuck: What did you build with Python?
4:43 – Guest: Connect 4 in Python and command line tools. Simple things. I wrote one time a sales website in Django with Python and use with Google Pay. I wrote it and it got to launch point and then I was done.
5:30 – Chuck: How Did you get into Ruby?
5:35 – Guest: A childhood friend who loved Pearl and at the time I loved Python. We would friendly argue about which one was better. He talked to companies for me, and he edified my abilities in their eyes. I’ve been with Ruby since and I have a passion with it.
7:02 – Chuck: Why Ruby?
7:06 – Guest: With Python I never learned object oriented design and I never got into a community with Python. I didn’t connect with a broader community. I was constantly learning new things with Ruby. I connected a lot with people and shared with them the things that I’ve learned.
8:11 – Chuck: What have you done in Ruby?
8:15 – Guest: Almost you name it – I haven’t done graphics with gaming. I have done tons with the web side of things. I’ve done command line game and flashcards for learning language characters. That specific project was one of my favorite projects. I designed an entire...
9:14 – Chuck: Model view graphics for command line - how does that work?
9:23 – Guest: Rails has model view controller I followed that same schema.
10:00 – Chuck: Is it open source somewhere?
10:05 – Guest: Yes. Language Cards through GitHub. There are 2 languages that you can start learning with.
10:28 – Chuck: Performance on Ruby – how did you get into that angle?
10:51 – Guest: I agreed to work with shares in a startup company and I worked a year on it. It was heavy on features. One thing I noticed was that the load time for the front page was unacceptable (loading time). I wanted to figure out where the bottlenecks were. I wrote my first bit of code and linked it up with Ruby and I got my website to run 30% faster. Seeing that – that was exciting. It seemed like I accomplished something and I wanted to share it with the community. It drew a lot of attention. I thought it was a cool novel idea and I became well known for it. I put more time into it b/c I wanted it to look better since it got so much attention. I’ve learned a lot and I’ve dove into the C code b/c I am improving the libraries.
13:39 – Chuck: Getting those C libraries up?
13:45 – Guest: That is the most recent thing I am working with. My project RU RU hasn’t been worked on in a while, so I created an official fork for it – you can call it: RUTIE. So much work has been put into it. I am very excited about this project. It’s very active right now.
14:56 – Chuck: How do people find you online?
15:05 – Guest: GitHub, my website, and Twitter!
15:27 – Chuck: What if people want to contract you?
15:34 – Guest: Check out my résumé, which will show my areas of expertise. They can find ways to reach me, and my contact information is mentioned there. I like working on full-stack Ruby and/or Rust and anything performance.
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