As Rummana Hussain and Ben sat down to talk, it was the day after an excessive night of Fourth of July fireworks as Americans ostensibly celebrate their independence from one king, while preparing to elect another. Then President Biden declared he was staying in the race regardless of what anyone thought of said. Oh, brother. Is everyone supposed to pretend we didn’t just see in that debate what we just saw in that debate. And a few words about The Sympathizer. Rummana is an editorial writer/columnist for ghe Sun-Times. Her opinions are her own.

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