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  • #209: Going For Olympics Decathlon Then Surviving Cancer, Spud Still Serves God and Runs Fast
    He almost made it on Team USA for two different Olympics, in events that many say make up the best athlete in the world: the decathlon. In this episode of the "Run the Race" podcast - which you can easily subscribe to - I talk to Spud Alford about training for Olympic dreams for almost a decade, a battle with cancer where they gave him 6 months to live (40+ years ago), prayers of healing, God radically changing his life, creating board games revolving around sports, and chasing a world record involving sprint speed even now at nearly 70 years old.
    (4:57) Spud talks about a conversation with God while at University of Southern Miss and watching Bruce Jenner in the Olympic while working at Sears prompted him to go after the eventually-boycotted 1980 Olympics. He became the 8th highest ranked decathlete in America!
    (12:14) Overcoming injuries and training again for the 1984 Olympics, even using steroids to do so, he got a diagnosis of deadly and dangerous testicular cancer. Fast forward to a prayer from a stranger, and doctors amazed by his healing. He fell just short of the Olympics.
    (22:46) Drifting from God for years, he now shares his testimony all over, also played Jesus in a big church production for almost 2 decades, and led now pastors to God.
    (29:15) Regrets about missing out on the Olympics? Spud also gives us his favorite and worst of the 10 decathlon events, which he focused on during almost his entire 20s in age. He also authored 2 books, explaining what one title "God If You Are Real" really means - it involves tragedy and triumph.
    (36:19) He's also faced depression, now focused on guarding his thoughts. (40:39) And Spud created a business called Zelosport, creating 7 board games including "finger football" that led to a national championship of that game.
    (44:25) Now, at 69 years old, Spud continues working out - this time trying to break the world record for his age in the 100 meter dash, hoping to do so at the Masters Olympic Games! How's he training? Spud also talks about the neurology and feeling of speed, running fast. This time around, he'll be glued to the track and field events at the Paris Olympics (I give you my favorite sports I'll be watching too).
    (52:52) Spud closes us out in prayer. Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast! Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and all past episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    1 hr 3 min
  • #208: From Burnout To Solo Run Across GA, Cheyenne Hit Breaking Points And Kept Going
    Years after burning out from competitive running, a former running store manager gutted through 277.2 miles in 4+ days to complete the solo Run Across Georgia, from Tybee Island to Columbus (where she lives). She takes us through the ins and outs of that immense challenge on this "Run The Race" episode, along with what she did about burnout and divorce after being a fast cross country runner in college...helping other runners...and connections with the community, the outdoors.
    (3:16) Cheyenne Greenside, a Washington state native, thought "Why Not?" with the epic Run Across GA, seeing fellow runners in Columbus do it. (8:00) She talks about the training and planning before the race, lots of miles and staying positive, one leg of the race at a time. She had goals for how much to run/walk each day of the event, and how much sleep (hint: it was less than 3 hours per night). What were her favorite foods? You may be surprised what she wanted on sandwiches.
    (17:13) In challenges, we all need tenacity! What did she do when she was exhausted, feeling broken? One breaking point for her was at mile 140, when she was panicked and sobbing, but her crew/family got her going again. There were challenges like unknown roads, horrible humidity , tendinitis, and painful chafing! Ouch. (25:25) Cheyenne also talks about those closing miles of "Run Across Georgia" and what it was like at the finish line, with so much support from cheering friends.
    (34:28) One of her passions is inspiring, teaching, encouraging fellow runners. She still works part-time at Big Dog Fleet Feet, where she used to be manager, continuing to push the importance of good running shoes. Worth the cost?
    (42:50) Going back to her days of running HS track in WA and XC at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, she tried to run faster and faster. Running became more like a job, leading her to finding new purpose through a Trans-con relay (San Francisco to NYC) to raise money for cancer, then burnout again. She has advice for when you get tired of the sport or hobby you do a lot: let it go. Cheyenne explains a little more. Running also helps with mental health. It did for her during a divorce, and she's got the tattoo for that too. She feels most at home and peace while running, loves being outdoors.
    (53:56) We talk about her future running goals, like a faster 50K and a few 100 milers coming soon, pushing her body to more breaking points and overcoming, like she did at Run Across Georgia. (59:50) I close the episode with a prayer.
    Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast, which I hope you'll subscribe to! Share it with your friends. Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and listen to any previous episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    1 hr 3 min
  • #207: Working Out with Commanding General Who Sees Fitness as Army Top Priority
    The Army focuses on fitness, and they can teach us all some things. A week after Independence Day, there will be a big changing of the guard on Fort Moore. But before that, I went to the Army post in West Georgia for a workout with the outgoing Commanding General, before his next mission in his 32+ year military career. He also had a lot to say for this podcast, so go ahead and subscribe to it.
    (5:10) First, I give a recap of my 1 hour of exercises with the General on a humid early morning in Georgia - included pullups, planks for 90 seconds, lunges and squats with weight, running the stairs at Doughboy Stadium, and more.
    (11:04) Major General Curtis Buzzard talks about physical training (PT) being the most important thing soldiers do every day, the best way to train for combat. He and dozens of soon-to-be platoon leaders were alongside me for the PT. The MG enjoys discussing fitness!
    (14:57) Between pushups, the 54-year-old Buzzard called it an honor to lead this historic Army post through the change from Fort Benning to being named after Vietnam hero Lt. General Hal Moore and very active military wife Julie. MG Buzzard talks about the powerful atmosphere at Fort Moore.
    (17:18) We also talk about him continuing his career in the Army in an "uncertain world" with the goal of continuing to protect America's sons and daughters.
    I close the episode out in prayer. Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast! Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and all past episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    30 min
  • #206: "The Voice" Winner Huntley Leans Into God, Music, Singing For Soldiers
    He just won season 24 of "The Voice" several months ago, the popular talent competition on NBC and now HUNTLEY joins me on the podcast as he prepares to perform on Fort Moore, near me in Georgia, for their Independence Celebration, a free event open to the public on Saturday June 29, which starts at 4pm. He has a lot to say about God and faith, music and his quick path to fame, family history and support for the military!
    (3:50) You'll hear some of his performance, that he posted on Instagram, of "Open The Eyes of My Heart," a Christian worship song, then (7:06) we get into our conversation. Huntley first talks about his surprising journey onto the voice and winning it, grateful to God for the opportunity! He talks about leaning into GOD during hard times, like when he was homeless for a few months. Huntley also talks about fighting for what you want and having a spiritual awakening while on The Voice. He's excited to play and sing songs for soldiers and the public attending the Independence Celebration on Fort Moore this Saturday, with country star Brett Young performing after him. You may surprised to hear how tragedy struck some of his family members that were in the military and his deep connections to the Army. We close out talking about what kind/genre of music he describes his as...being authentic...the importance of family...and if his long blonde hair is real.
    Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast, which I hope you'll subscribe to! Share it with your friends. Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and listen to any previous episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    29 min
  • #205: Pastors' Wives Trio Tell All on Church Stereotypes, Identity, Tattoos, Their Pod/Book
    Pastors' wives have a lot of pressure on them. My first ever trio of guests on "Run The Race" (subscribe to it) know this all too well. These women in Columbus GA are now being very open about their lives, with humor and honesty, in a new book and on a podcast they've been hosting for the past 4 years.
    (3:28) Jessica Taylor, Jenna Allen and Stephanie Gilbert are focused on breaking down walls within the church and crushing pastors wifey stereotypes. They first chat with me about the struggles and joys of being in ministry and being married to a pastor. Are they expected to be perfect? What are some wins? What pressures do they face in their marriage and church?
    (10:44) There are also misconceptions about church leaders like them. All 3 of these moms and pastors' wives have tattoos. Reaction to those? They want to be themselves and ultimately see the church unified!
    (16:49) This trio created the brand "Pastors' Wives Tell All": https://www.pastorswivestellall.com/. That's the name of their book, released this year, and podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4uYPezTHqopDVdwx8mA3tj. They talk about how and why they started the pod...teamwork with different gifts...being vulnerable and helping others have healing. Check them out on Instagram too. (24:14) The big message is: you are not alone. And they say the podcast is not just for people married for pastors, but anyone inside/outside the church, women, whoever doesn't feel like the fit in. And they have fun!
    (34:00) When I asked them about Identity... they asked, who are we without our job? And do we have to earn God's love? No. We talk about breaking down those titles to know who we are in Christ, and being grateful for where we are - including our family.
    (40:00) Along with some tidbits on what they do for fun and fitness...Stephanie, Jenna and Jessica describe what it was like being on TV for the 700 Club a few times and also releasing their book earlier this year! Each of them has 2-3 kids, and they're busier now with "Pastors' Wives Tell All," so being organized and saying NO to more things is crucial. What's next? They talk about a national conference they're speaking at in mid July...an Africa mission trip...retreats in other states this Fall...and a Pastors Wives cruise next year. (56:56) Stephanie closes us out in Prayer.
    I close the podcast in prayer. Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast! Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and all past episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    1 hr
  • #204: Powerful Stories of Fitness, Faith, Running, Mental Health, Movies & More (Best Of)
    It's an extravaganza of wisdom and inspiration related to fitness and faith! This "Best Of" episode of the RUN THE RACE podcast features snippets from 33 guests that have been on this show, about half from the past 2 years. Subscribe and tell your friends about this pod. Buckle up! Here's a quick rundown of who you'll hear from about running...reality shows and science...spreading faith...music and movies...overall health...different sports...turning to God in adversity...long races like across Georgia...and mental health:
    (5:50) Lee L'Oste Brown on his Moab 240 mile race in Utah
    (8:30) How retired Marine COL Hank Donigan runs a marathon just about every week
    (11:03) Tricia Davis has a message for retirees after she ran 70+ races in her 70th birthday year
    (13:04) Jim Rosborough, now 89 and a triathlete, talking about making fitness a habit
    (14:15) Steve Warren's 4+ year run streak
    (17:57) Former "Survivor" TV show winner Ethan Zohn using that platform to run and raise awareness
    (20:07) Alabama Football Chaplain Jeremiah Castille gives his take on sharing faith in the NFL
    (22:12) Science vs Scripture? Astronomer Dr. Shawn Cruzem explains
    (26:23) Free Methodist Bishop Keith Cowart gives eyewitness opinion on authenticity of the Asbury Revival
    (29:02) Church being the foundation for Rodney Close that leads Boys and Girls Clubs
    (31:07) How Tim and Angie Hollis put simple messages on billboards across Columbus GA to lift God's name
    (36:32) Filmmakers The Kendrick Brothers describe movie Lifemark, based on a true story about abortion and adoption
    (39:13) Famous singer Mark Schultz talks about Christian Music and hear part of a popular song
    (41:46) This episode also features an original tune from Mike Marshall who loves leading worship
    (43:52) Filmmaker and Israel guide Bob Ronglien tells us about a new doc on Following the Footsteps of Jesus
    (47:32) Longtime Health club leader Charlie lindsey talks about meeting fitness goals
    (49:51) Tired of yo yo dieting? Dr. Baliga, who has a new weight loss clinic, talks about that and tips for grocery shopping
    (52:18) Army Space Officer and pageant queen CPT Angie Dimattia-Veith has encouragement for you
    (55:53) Well-known college football host Josh Pate talks about this sport in the South and SEC culture
    (57:46) Jay "The Beard" Croop gets real about hockey injuries and motivation
    (1:00:00) Former world champ Detroit Pistons coach Brendan Suhr has some stories on Michael Jordan and more
    (1:02:12) Former Raider star Otis Sistrunk shares about pro football workouts and his path to the NFL
    (1:06:21) Pastor James E. Allen opens up about having a child with another woman besides his wife and his book on church hypocrisy
    (1:08:55) How former drug dealer Blake Russell went from addict since age 13 to God transforming his life behind bars to a life of ministry
    (1:10:56) Surgeon Dr. Jay McGrory talks about addiction and faith, through a novel based on his son's drug issues
    (1:13:09) Giving second chances to convicts, attorney Jennifer Dunlap talks about the Lord's work she does
    (1:17:02) Ultra runner Randy Murphy pushing through a 100 miler in Alabama, after recovering from major injury
    (1:19:02) Single mom Saushia Hathaway completed the solo "Run Across Georgia," pain and all
    (1:21:29) Kevin Schied, the next year, also did that 277 mile solo trek, seeing GA in a unique way
    (1:25:27) Bike shop owner Jason McKenzie is vulnerable about his wife committing suicide, plus how dirt bike racing relates to depression
    (1:27:58) Host of the "Mental Game" podcast, Brandon Saho, gives red flags to watch for, as someone who was suicidal for years
    (1:29:57) Heart doctor Hunter Champion breaks down mind-body connection.
    Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast, which you can write a quick review about, on Apple podcasts. For more info and listen to any previous episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    1 hr 36 min
  • #203: Mainly Marathons Co-Race Director Inspired By Runners All Over the USA, Setting Records
    Some people want to see as much as they can of America. Some people want to run marathons or other distances in all 50 states (like me). My guest for this episode of "Run The Race" helps people do both in a "loony" way. make sure to like/follow/subscribe to the podcast!
    (6:23) Former mental health counselor Daniel Rueckert and his brother Jesse from Minnesota are co-owners and race directors for "Mainly Marathons" - through which I've run 5 of my last 10 marathons (including some doubles you can hear about in my eps #180 and 202). He says it's exciting and exhausting to see people from all over the world in their 75 annual races in all 50 states through 13 multi-day series. Those are 14+ hour work days for them, with people taking 3-12 hours to finish marathons, no person left behind. Why do people do it this way? People can choose to walk the races...saving money on travel, doing races in multiple states the same week...encouraging, fun environment.
    How do they (14:22) balance work and life, being on the road 100+ days per year for these events? He explains, since they've directed close to 600 races in their 7 years as "mainly" race directors. Dreadlocked Daniel also talks about behind-the-scenes logistics like where they sleep, picking locations, measuring and getting race courses sanctioned, food and being cheerleaders. He talks about some of the WORLD RECORDS set on their courses too!
    Seeing these runners from all over the world (25:57), some injured or even paralyzed, achieving big things is inspiring to the Minnesota brothers who ran marathons in all 50 states together as well. Daniel also describes going from a sprinter and jumper to a long distance runner....and some of his favorite places to run and put on races.
    (34:07) What are the mental health and emotional benefits of running? He gives his perspectives on exercise, addiction, anxiety, as a former therapist who did walk and talk sessions. What can start as chemical dependency and feeling down with no support system...to fitness achievements building confidence, while being cheered on. As race directors, they've heard stories of personal struggles and triumphs on and off the race courses.
    (43:44) Some may be concerned about running becoming an addiction, but a good chunk of the back-to-back marathon runners see this as their "retirement community." It's about self-reflection too. (46:52) What's it like for them to see the USA like this? Their offices for work have some beautiful scenery. Daniel and his brother now head out for 2 series, 5Ks to marathons across 11 states in 11 days, from Delaware to Maine, starting Wednesday June 5.
    To learn more about Mainly Marathons, go to: https://mainlymarathons.com/.
    I close the podcast in prayer. Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast! Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and all past episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    55 min
  • #202: Running My Marathon Double In Midwest (Races Recap From Nebraska & Iowa)
    What's it like running marathons on back-to-back days? I'm going to tell you. For the second time in the last 6 months, I did just that, running a 26.2 mile race in different states, one day apart. This time, it was in Nebraska and Iowa - putting me at 28 states so far in the journey of running a marathon in all 50 states.
    in this shorter pod episode, I recap those fun races through the Mainly Marathons Prairie series. Give it a listen to hear more about my training miles leading up to the Midwest...the loops and quirks of these races...praising God while passing a fellow runner...people from all over the world that I ran with...amazing achievements and numbers by fellow competitors...recovery between races like a homemade ice bath...sleep and shoes...historic sightseeing in Omaha NE and Sioux City IA...and more. Closed out in prayer.
    Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast, which I hope you'll subscribe to! Share it with your friends. Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and listen to any previous episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    26 min
  • #201: Army Amputee & Kickboxer Puts Prayer First To Heal Vets, Marriages, Himself
    On this National Day of Prayer, Retired Army Corporal Josh McCart is talking about how faith in Jesus helped save and heal him after a bomb in Iraq left him without part of his arm, angry at God for years. He opens up about the darkness and what changed his life/marriage for the better. He also talks about losing a lot of weight and competing in big kickboxing competitions (yes, with one hand). Go right now and subscribe to "Run The Race" for inspiring conversations like this one about faith and fitness,
    (3:33) Hear the scary story about the IED blast in Baghdad in 2007 that led to his amputation and turned him into a man with no hope, after thinking he was following God's will into the Army. Why me? One chaplain told him: Why not you?
    (15:05) Losing his mom a decade after that bombing in Iraq prompted Josh, 275 pounds at the time, to lose at least 50 pounds. Learn how the Covid pandemic helped him find a passion for martial arts, especially Muay Thai and kickboxing. He explains those disciplines. The 39-year-old is competing against guys half his age in MMA-style matches. I asked about the disadvantages as an amputee. He also wants to live life to the fullest, to honor friends he lost in war.
    (24:08) Not talking to God for years after losing his arm...his prayer life came back in 2015. Josh tells the story of what happened on a solo hunt that helped him make the switch. (29:22) Now, he and his wife help other disable service couples through Samaritans Purse and "Operation Heal Our Patriots" retreats.
    And (37:57) how did he lose all the weight. It was moving more, but especially changing how he saw food, eating more intentionally. (41:27) Next up for Josh in the ring is the IKF (International Kickboxing federation) World Classic in Las Vegas this summer, for which he's already visualizing victory. It's to inspire others, especially his sons, but most importantly, to honor God! (45:45) Our guest this week closes us out in prayer.
    Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast! Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and all past episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    50 min
  • #200: Lazarus Lake Walking Across America, After Legend Led Historic Barkley Marathons
    On this episode #200, we have a special repeat guest: famous race director Lazarus Lake (real name: Gary Cantrell), as he walks across America! He talks about the ins and outs of that walk 3,000 miles across America...the most grueling footrace in the world, the historic Barkley Marathons event that just happened and that he's led for nearly 4 decades, where they just had their first ever female finisher...and virtual racing that's still around, like an event he helped create that allows anyone in the world to join him on this transcon.
    After a quick flashback to May 2020 when I asked Laz about a woman potentially finishing The Barkley, (7:00) we move ahead to the new chat with this ultrarunning icon. We get updates from him on "Lazcon 2024," as he's in West Virginia and facing physical challenges. Why do it? He says it's either do something or wait to die. And Laz is excited about what's around the corner, meeting some great people throughout the USA. He likes to be active but wants there to be a point to exercise.
    Telling his story online is a big part of this, (14:11) as a read a quick portion of one of his entertaining blog entries on Facebook. He's approaching the transcon one day at a time, unplugging from tech & the world.
    (21:08) Lazarus Lake gives his take on the latest edition of The Barkley Marathons (since 1986), with a record 5 finishers a month ago. He calls what Jasmin Paris did one of the greatest athletic achievements! She finished with 99 seconds to spare, with 60 hour time limit. Will he increase the challenge, if possible, on the course at Frozen Head State Park in TN? This race is also built around uncertainty. What does it take? How does he fill about seeing people finish this grueling event? What's his future with the race?
    (30:33) Virtual racing is still popular, like a new version about to kick off of GVRAT that Laz helped create in 2020, now the Great Virtual Race Across the States where you can join this man's journey, with miles from home: https://gvrat.racing/.
    (38:34) Check out a bonus listen to part of "Run The Race" episode #26, my first chat with Laz from Spring of 2020 about how he started running, including the pain of the mile...how Lazarus got his nickname...the mental and spiritual side of running...wisdom on pushing to goals...his completed transcon journey from 2018...how the Barkley Marathons got started, historic inspiration for the route, more inside details...and more personal stuff about this famous race director.
    (58:24) I close it out in prayer, like all/most of the previous 199 episodes.
    Thanks for listening to the #RunTheRace podcast, which I hope you'll subscribe to! Share it with your friends. Also, write a quick review about it, on Apple podcasts. For more info and listen to any previous episodes, go to www.wtvm.com/podcast/.
    1 hr 1 min

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