Why do so many see rioters as patriots? Has apathy become a bigger threat than violence? The lead investigator in the House Select Committee to investigate the January 6th attack on the Capitol, Tim Heaphy, joins Preet to discuss the evolving narrative around the insurrection, the push for pardons, and how distrust in government has eroded faith in public institutions. Heaphy is out with a new book, Harbingers: What January 6 and Charlottesville Reveal About Rising Threats to American Democracy, an insider account of these seminal events and where we go from here. 

For show notes and a transcript of the episode head to: cafe.com/stay-tuned/january-6-charlottesville-democracy-tim-heaphy-book/ 

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