Today we are joined by friends of the show - and podcast besties - Kristen Meinzer and Jolenta Greenberg. Kristen and Jolenta have spent years living the self-help lifestyle and documenting it all on their podcast By The Book. Their new show, How To Be Fine, puts the wellness world under their funny and humane microscope. They are also astute watchers of Royals and Housewives, and we hope you enjoy this wide-ranging conversation on Royal coronations, Housewives convictions, and the best ways to move on from a breakup.

Also, no worries: Alicia lost her voice, but is on the road to recovery!

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