In this thought-provoking episode featuring Holly Leicht – Executive Vice President of Real Estate Development & Planning at Empire State Development – Rafael, Kirk, and Holly extrapolate the core foundational issues plaguing accessible and sustainable affordable housing for decades. Offering expert insights from their decades of learned professional experience, this spirited conversation is both entertaining and informative. Rafael and Kirk, skillfully utilize guest Holly Leicht to break down the paradoxes and, ultimately, the necessary future solutions that define The Housing Problem.