Rafael and Kirk have a spirited conversation on critical and historical issues to New Yorkers, as seen through their own experiences and those from every generation, joined by CPC Senior Vice President Robert Riggs. Together, they dive deep using on the history and present issue of equitable home ownership opportunity in New York City, the socioeconomic principles of building family wealth, and how efforts to close the racial gap, especially in public housing initiatives, have been received and engaged with throughout the boroughs of the City in its diverse and complex history.