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In this episode Kerry and Jason discuss the middle of the Book of Revelation, and discuss how many of the numbers in Revelation are symbolic of being in the middle of trials. They give the key for several symbolic numbers, including many that you may not normally think we can understand. They explore the protection that is extended to those who make and keep covenants, but that this doesn't mean that they will avoid all pain or trials in the midst of the turmoil of the world. They talk about the symbolism of beasts, and the power of the world in our day, and the way to overcome it. They discuss symbols of Christ and and Satan and angels and worldly rulers. They discuss ways to be responsible and irresponsible in interpreting things in the Book of Revelation. They also talk about how we overcome the powers of Satan and the world through Christ.

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