The gang is joined by friend and prolific songwriter/playwright, Chelsea Perry, who (just to brag) has now written 16 musicals! They chat about taking care of yourself during creative endeavors and the mystery of the proverbial dangling carrot. Tim says no to Broadway and yes to cameo. Emotional music ensues. Livvy cries the show out. The end. 

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