Jodie and Celia are joined this week by husband and wife duo Isaiah Johnson and Stacie Orrico! They talk about the climate of racial injustice in the United States, how to have hard conversations about race, and for Stacie and Isaiah, how to navigate interracial relationships and parenthood. Plus, they discuss Hamilton, weird penises, Jodie’s new nickname, and Celia’s at-home waxing journey. NOTE: stick around until the very end for a questionable request from Jodie….

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