Three strategy and policy experts from the US Naval War College explore the potential of an American defeat in a conflict with China.

In this episode of RUSI Journal Radio, hosts Demi, Emma and Ed are joined by Anand Toprani, Nicholas Murray and Michael Dennis, who co-authored an essay in the RUSI Journal earlier this year on confronting the possibility of defeat.

Recorded in February 2022, their conversation covers topics ranging from military wargaming to the resilience of the US political system.