EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder

S2E7 / What Good Is a Vaccine When There Is No Rice?


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The 1970s was the deadliest decade in the “entire history of Bangladesh,” said environmental historian Iftekhar Iqbal. A deadly cyclone, a bloody liberation war, and famine triggered waves of migration. As people moved throughout the country, smallpox spread with them.

In Episode 7 of “Eradicating Smallpox,” Shohrab, a man who was displaced by the 1970 Bhola cyclone, shares his story. After fleeing the storm, he and his family settled in a makeshift community in Dhaka known as the Bhola basti. Smallpox was circulating there, but the deadly virus was not top of mind for Shohrab. “I wasn’t thinking about that. I was more focused on issues like where would I work, what would I eat,” he said in Bengali.

When people’s basic needs — like food and housing — aren’t met, it’s harder to reach public health goals, said Bangladeshi smallpox eradication worker Shahidul Haq Khan.

He encountered that obstacle frequently as he traveled from community to community in southern Bangladesh.

He said people asked him: “There's no rice in people's stomachs, so what is a vaccine going to do?”

To conclude this episode, host Céline Gounder speaks with Sam Tsemberis, president and CEO of Pathways Housing First Institute.

He said when public health meets people’s basic needs first, it gives them the best shot at health.

In Conversation With Host Céline Gounder:

  • Sam Tsemberis
    Founder, president, and CEO of Pathways Housing First Institute
    @SamTsemberis

Voices From the Episode:

  • Shohrab
    Resident of the Bhola basti in Dhaka
  • Iftekhar Iqbal
    Associate professor of history at the Universiti Brunei Darussalam
  • Shahidul Haq Khan
    Former World Health Organization smallpox eradication program worker in Bangladesh

Find a transcript of this episode here.

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