Date With A Debut is a podcast hosted by writer Nick Wasiliev: shining a light on debut authors, their incredible books, and their journeys to publication.

This week, I sit down with Madeleine Cleary to discuss her debut novel, The Butterfly Women.

WARNING: This book contains intense subject matter. Reader discretion is advised.

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BOOKS:

Debut Feature:

The Butterfly Women / Madeleine Cleary: https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/e1BP3Q

Other Books Mentioned:

The Dictionary of Lost Words / Pip Williams: https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/VmRrR6

Demon Copperhead / Barbara Kingsolver: https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/aO6QbY

Burial Rites / Hannah Kent: https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/GKq3x2

An Onslaught of Light / Natasha Rai: https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/092QEJ

Five Seasons in Seoul / Christine Newell: https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/Z643oz

The Story Thief / Kyra Geddes: https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/XmZ3g3

OTHER LINKS:

The Book Deal Podcast: https://bit.ly/4kvtq62

PRODUCTION NOTES:

Host: Nick Wasiliev

Guest: Madeleine Cleary

Editing & Production: Nick Wasiliev

Podcast Theme: ‘Chill’ by Sakura Hz

Production Code: 3:6

Episode Number: #40

Additional Credits: Dani Vee (Words & Nerds), Tace Kelly (Simon and Schuster Australia)

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