Before the paywall, we talk exclusive ring services for Dutch gutter punks, whether or not there's tea (there isn't), the best way to deal with a grilling from KTLA, making lifelong friends at 33 Taps, the nightmare of working in entertainment in this day and age, and beyond. Behind the paywall, we conclude the excellent two-parter Past Tense, with Sisko narrowly pulling off revolution by improvising his way through it.

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