Seiichi Saito of Domaine Petit-Roy isn't organic, and yet he spent several years spraying his vines with with skim milk instead of sulfur. He studied desertification at university, but still tills his soils. Seiichi's farming defies the soundbites and stereotypes that many believe good farming should be, and yet his wisdom and insight couldn't be more obvious. This episode takes you into Seiichi's cellar during harvest of 2022 for an in-depth discussion about all of the fascinating farming details that contribute to making this topic such a complicated one.

This is a very special episode for Roadside Terroir as we welcome Roadside team member Paul Knittel for his hosting and production debut. Bravo, Paul!

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Episode 4: Petit-Roy Cast Study is sponsored by Becky Wasserman and Company.

This episode and hosted and produced by Paul Knittle and co-produced by Brenna Quigley.

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Roadside Terroir is hosted and produced by Brenna Quigley

Sound engineering, original music and sound design by Jeff Alvarez

Research and writing support by Paul Knittel

With special thanks to Clare Shaheen and Esa Eslami.

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