<p>Rafael and Kirk talk to Amy Hovey, CEO of the Michigan State Housing Development Authority, about how she's made government work more efficiently, Governor Whitmer's approach to housing, the political dynamic in the Midwest, and how states can cut local red tape. </p>

Rafael and Kirk talk to Amy Hovey, CEO of the Michigan State Housing Development Authority, about how she's made government work more efficiently, Governor Whitmer's approach to housing, the political dynamic in the Midwest, and how states can cut local red tape.

S4 E2. MICHIGAN! / AMY HOVEY

From the days of the Koch administration to Mayor Adams stepping into City Hall, New York City has spent hundreds of billions of dollars trying to solve the city’s housing problem. Yet from sky-high rents to crumbling public housing to rising rates of homelessness, the problem persists.

Join housing experts Rafael Cestero and Kirk Goodrich, as they look at how New York City’s housing problem has evolved during their combined 60 years in the industry and wrangle with the most daunting challenges still ahead.

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From the days of the Koch administration to Mayor Adams stepping into City Hall, New York City has spent hundreds of billions of dollars trying to solve the city’s housing problem. Yet from sky-high rents to crumbling public housing to rising rates of homelessness, the problem persists. Join housing experts Rafael Cestero and Kirk Goodrich, as they look at how New York City’s housing problem has evolved during their combined 60 years in the industry and wrangle with the most daunting challenges still ahead.

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