Black Like Me

S9 E180: The World I Believed In Never Existed: Creating And Sustaining Justified Anger Change With Rev. Lilada Gee and Harry Hawkins


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What was it like to try to create systemic change after the release of Dr. Gee's Justified Anger article? Hear how the article was encroaching on white people’s territory with pushback to maintain the system from guests Rev. Lilada Gee and Harry Hawkins. 

Mr. Hawkins provides perspective on the release of the Justified Anger article from someone who had just moved to Madison and was seeing the environment with fresh eyes. They also discuss how language matters in race relations because it frames the issues and who has the power. Dr. Gee breaks down why he got labeled a “Black” leader and not just a community or civic leader. 

Read Justified Anger's Our Madison Plan

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