All Hail Kale

Sad Mouse


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Tackling depression and anxiety via the gut – the amazing story of how a sad mouse could change the treatment of mental health. And how to keep your own gut as happy as possible.

Happiness expert Gretchen Rubin offers tips on how to be happy, even if you’re British.

Writer & Presenter: Tim Samuels

Executive Producer: Barney Rowntree
Producer: Nick Minter
Assistant Producer: Sera Baker
Researcher: Roser Jorba Soler
Mixing & Sound Design: Ali Rezakhani
Story Sound Design: James Morgan
Original Music: Xavior Roide
Series Editor: Gloria Abramoff

All Hail Kale is made by Tonic Productions for BBC Sounds.

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