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What do you do when the love is gone but the grief won't leave?
Jake Orak opens up about the quiet unraveling of a decade-long marriage - not through betrayal, but through two people slowly drifting apart. He walks us through the coaching, the inner work, and the completion ceremony that finally gave both him and his ex-wife the energetic freedom to truly move on. 
This is not a story about cheating, betrayal, neglect or abuse. It is a story about two people who loved each other enough to let go with grace.

If you have ever felt like a past relationship still has a quiet hold on you, this episode is the map you have been waiting for. 

Explore conscious uncoupling, the completion ceremony framework, and what it truly means to heal after divorce, release emotional attachment, and rebuild your capacity for real intimacy.



In this interview, you'll learn:

What a completion ceremony is and how to do one with your ex
Why staying loyal to your commitment long after love is gone keeps both people stuck
How drift,  not betrayal, quietly ends most long-term relationships
The difference between cutting cords and consciously completing a relationship
Why choosing divorce can be one of the most loving acts two people share
How to stop withholding your truth from your partner before it breaks everything
What the Ho'oponopono practice is and how it fits into real relationship healing
How coaching helped Jake recognize patterns he couldn't see from inside the relationship


You are allowed to choose yourself. You are allowed to stop playing small. The life you are grieving may be the very thing making room for the one you actually belong in.

With Love and Safety,
Chad & April ❤️


What We Discuss:

0:00 — He Flew Around the World Just to Say Goodbye
2:41 — A Marriage That Started as a Visa Hack
4:50 — Deported on Their Honeymoon
11:11 — Achieved the Dream. Completely Fell Apart.
13:20 — The Core Wound Underneath the Workaholism
25:25 — She Called It. He agreed. They Both Just Broke Down.
26:21 — "I Wish You Had Cheated On Me So I Could Just Hate You"
29:32 — Choosing Divorce as an Act of Love
33:53 — What Is a Completion Ceremony? (Conscious Uncoupling Explained)
35:29 — The Full Ceremony Document Read Live On Air
43:16 — One Last Kiss. Into the Pool. It Was Done.
1:13:42 — How He Healed His Dad Wound Without His Dad Being There
1:18:27 — She Sent Him a Rose on Hinge the Week He Was Leaving

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Today, April and Chad sit down with Adrienne Isbell, a yoga and sound healing teacher who spent over a decade inside a narcissistic marriage before her world collapsed and rebuilt itself into something far greater than she ever imagined.
Adrienne opens up about the childhood wounds that shaped how she loved, the financial control that left her with no career and no way out, and what it really felt like to discover an affair, stay, and discover it again. She shares the moment a yin yoga class cracked her open after months of emotional numbness and how somatic healing, sound baths, and the courage to stop playing small brought her back to life.
What the world calls starting over is usually years of quiet inner work nobody sees until it arrives all at once, changed.
In this interview, you'll learn:

How to recognize the signs of financial abuse and coercive control inside a marriage
How to understand avoidant attachment and why it quietly damages the love you want most
How to use somatic healing and yoga to process trauma when talk therapy alone is not enough
How to trust your body's truth even when your mind is not ready to face it
How to release the word "deserve" and stop measuring your worth by what others took from you
How to rebuild your identity, your body, and your sense of play after leaving a controlling relationship
How to give yourself permission to leave when every support system is telling you to stay and work it out
How to move from emotional numbness into a life full of creativity, connection, and real love

You are allowed to choose yourself. You are allowed to stop playing small. The life you are grieving may be the very thing making room for the one you actually belong in.

With Love and Safety,
Chad & April ❤️


What We Discuss: 
0:00 — Welcome to Safe to Love | Valentine's Day Special
1:41 — Adrienne's Story: 6 Years That Completely Rebuilt Her
3:22 — How She Got Trapped: Meeting a Narcissist at Age 21
8:27 — Financial Control in Marriage: When the Money Was Never Yours
15:46 — Childhood Wounds That Made Her the Perfect Target
19:19 — Discovering the Affair: "Love, Your Boyfriend"
29:07 — The Second Betrayal: Hawaii, Lies, and the Point of No Return
34:39 — The Yoga Class That Finally Let Her Breathe Again
45:01 — Why Women Stay: When Every Resource Tells You to Work It Out
53:55 — Spy Cameras, Stalking Injunction, and the Gift of No Contact
1:05:00 — "Deserve Isn't Real": The Bhagavad Gita Moment That Set Her Free
1:12:10 — DRIP, Drums, and Reclaiming Her Body Voice and Life

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 | On this final episode of Season 1, Chad and April once again sit down with Adira - this time to share their own special love story! How it all started, this Youtube channel started with our love story and we share about courage and love. And trust and surrender. Our mission is to give the world hope and our story is full of that!! We hope you enjoy it!! Love you April and Chad
 
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On this episode April sits down one-on-one with Erica Lemke, a Certified Sex and Relationship Coach,  Board Certified Clinical Sexologist, and the founder of Sex Coach SLC in Salt Lake City. We talk about all things Sex and Pleasure for women in mid-life, including  Kegels to Safe Intimacy to Body Image and everything in between! 

Known for her warm presence and grounded expertise, Erica helps midlife women and couples feel turned on, tuned in, and deeply connect: to their bodies, their pleasure, and each other!

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In this episode of Safe to Love we bring you a Love story in its inception. Stephen and Carrie have not been together for decades or even years, reflecting back on the life they have shared and all they have learned together. They give us a real-time insight into what it's like to take all of the lessons life has taught us about love and integrate them into a new relationship. Their example of leading with the heart and of showing up in mature authenticity and vulnerability right from the start is a  beautiful template of a different way to engage in building a new relationship. Love requires courage, the courage to risk being seen by another, the courage to have faith in our ability to navigate whatever may come, and the courage to lean in when our heart says "Yes!"

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On this special episode of Safe to Love, April and Chad sit down to share with our audience what beats at the heart of Safe to Love, from our mission statement, to our Core Values, as well as who our audience is and the different themes that we use to determine the topics we talk about. 

Special thanks to our dear friend Adira for coming from behind the camera to interview us for this episode! Adira was a core member of the Safe to Love family through the entire production and launch of Season 1 (and is still the editor for our Substack!), and without her we never would have gotten this dream to launch!

Speaking of Substack, if you are enjoying our show we would love it if you subscribed to us there, where you will find more stories of real love and other writings.

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We are on a Mission to help the world believe in love again, and give YOU the courage to find it!

Values - we are always
1. Courageous
2. Compassionate
3.  Accountable
4. Authentic
5. Practical

Themes/Topics of the Safe to Love show
1. Safety
2. Courage
3. Communication
4. Intimacy
5. Relationships
6. Sex

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In this one-on-one Episode of Safe to Love, Chad sits down with his teacher, mentor, and friend, Cam Fraser, to talk about masculinity and men's sexuality, and how our relationship to each affect how we show up in relationships.

Cam is Certified Professional Sex Coach and Certified Sexologist, he served as the Deputy Chairperson for the Society of Australian Sexologists from 2022 through 2024. Being a former Tantric Yoga Teacher, his work integrates scientifically validated, medically accurate information about sexual health, with sacred sexuality teachings from the mystery traditions. As a coach, he helps men go beyond surface-level sex and into full-bodied, self-expressed, pleasure-oriented sexual experiences free of anxiety or shame.

Interest in working with Cam? Check out his website!

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In this episode we bring you the story of how painful the intersection of love and religion can be. Darci and Brandon's entire lives - including their marriage - were built upon the foundations of the Mormon Church (officially called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints). When their souls could no longer fit within the confines of that religion, not only did they have to confront what that meant for their faith, they also had to learn how to grow and evolve their relationship into something that could survive and thrive without relying on the tenets of Mormonism, which had dictated the meaning of their marriage for so long - including what the purpose of their union and their individual roles within it.

We are so excited to share this story with you, one of immense courage and endless hope. Through the power of their love, Darci and Brandon's marriage not only survived the deconstruction of their faith, it grew into something even more beautiful. Along the journey, Darci and Brandon became embodied experts on how to regulate our nervous system and create a space in our body where that was safe to be present. They truly represent what it means to be "Safe to Love."

If you want to book a somatic session with Darci, you can do so on her website https://www.holoshealing.info

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In this episode of Safe to Love, Chad sits down with April for a powerful interview about the life that led her to creating Safe to Love, the choices along the way that shaped her into the woman that she is, and the courage it takes to leave behind a marriage that is not good for either partner. April bravery and authenticity are on full display here as she shares a story that so many women experience, way too many in silence, of being in a marriage with love and friendship and mutual respect, but lacking passion and intimacy. When two people who care for each other have to face the reality that they cannot meet each other's unique needs, the rightness of a decision does not make it hurt any less. 

Let this quintessential episode of Safe to Love bring you both hope and courage in equal measure to fight for your own love story!

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In this episode of Safe to Love, April and Chad sit down with Christy Foster to explore  how the body carries our unspoken stories, how physical patterns often mirror emotional imprints, and what it really means to listen to the “subconscious language” of the body. Christy shares her framework for understanding the two-way communication between body and mind, and how cultivating this awareness can transform not only our physical and emotional health, but the way we connect to ourselves and to others.

Christy also opens up about her mission to empower individuals to decode the signals our bodies send us every day, signals that often go unnoticed but shape our lives in profound ways. Through her work as an educator, mentor, and healer, she teaches others how to create deeper alignment, self-awareness, and integration within their own mind body systems. Whether you’re a practitioner, someone on your own healing journey, or simply curious about how the body stores emotion and memory, this conversation will expand your understanding of what’s possible.

Christy Foster is a psychosomatic therapist, educator, and mentor with over 25 years of experience helping people understand the language of the body and psyche. Her work explores archetypes as living patterns that shape our everyday choices, relationships, and emotional responses, offering practical insight into how awareness creates change.

If you want to contact Christy or just learn more about here and her work you can find her on Facebook, Instagram, or through her website!

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