Carey and Lara discuss the "It Girl" pixie cut of the mid-aughts, my ideal relationship scenario, and tapping into the Spiritual Industrial Complex. In Salt Lake City, the ladies are on a spiritual journey of their own, as Whitney unravels past childhood trauma through energy healing and her brother's EMDR therapy. When the ladies head to Scottsdale for a healing retreat/Jen Shah's possible last hurrah, Meredith unleashes salacious gossip about the lengths Lisa Barlow will go to in order to secure Vida Tequila's success. Listen to this episode sans ads AND get bonus episodes, videos and more by becoming a patron of the pod.

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