NPR host Sam Sanders on Danzy Senna’s New People, the 2016 election, and how people can surprise us — if we let them. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck, The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald, New People by Danzy Senna, and Animal Farm by George Orwell. You can find transcripts of this episode and past ones on LitHub. Check out the podcasts Better at Everything and Grammar Girl, and the audiobook for Nine Perfect Strangers.

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