Today’s guest is the Grave Dancer himself, Sam Zell, founder and chairman of Equity Group Investments, a private investment firm he founded more than 50 years ago. Sam’s thought to be the most successful real estate investor of all time and the man who known for his enormous success in real estate and “made REITs dance,” popularizing the REIT structure that’s commonplace today. He’s also been a successful investor in areas like energy, logistics, and health care.

Today’s episode starts off with Sam’s take on the withdrawal limits for private REITs over the past few months from the lens of his quote, “liquidity equals value.” He shares his view on different areas of the real estate market, why he’s been a net seller for 7+ years, and some lessons from being a constant deal maker during his career.

As we wind down, Sam shares some advice for President Biden on how to help the economy and how to encourage more entrepreneurship in the US, and I promise you won’t want to miss his most memorable investment. 

*To listen to more on Sam’s fascinating background, we suggest listening to his episode on The Tim Ferriss Show podcast here

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Today’s episode is sponsored by Farmland LP. Farmland LP is one of the largest investment funds in the US focused on converting chemical-based conventional farmland to organic, sustainably-managed farmland using a value-add commercial real estate strategy in the agriculture sector. Since 2009, they have built a 15,000-acre portfolio representing over $200M in AUM.

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Past guests include Ed Thorp, Richard Thaler, Jeremy Grantham, Joel Greenblatt, Campbell Harvey, Ivy Zelman, Kathryn Kaminski, Jason Calacanis, Whitney Baker, Aswath Damodaran, Howard Marks, Tom Barton, and many more. 

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