Vanessa + Sarah talk about the idea that it might be permissible, or even important, for the leaders to recognize and honor their limitations, too.

Vanessa + Sarah discuss Vanessa's most recent visit with her surgeon.

Vanessa shares her thoughts on an article titled, "The Unconscious Other" by Lee Rather, and gratitude to Wendell Berry on the day of his passing.

Sarah + Vanessa talk about the specific task in group of naming disappointment, frustration, and anger at the leader(s), in part because you may have not been able to do so as a child (or as an adult!).

Sarah + Vanessa talk about group as a test to find out what we're allergic/reactive to; Sarah faced one of her allergies in her real life this week in an accidental Instagram reel share. 

Vanessa + Sarah talk about process group as a practice of improvisation vs. rehearsed speech.   

Sarah + Vanessa talk about their unfortunately ongoing relationship to lying.  

Sarah + Vanessa reflect on the dilemma in a process group of tending to what's "inside the room" while inhabiting what is "outside the room."

Sarah + Vanessa talk about their particular ease in enjoying leading groups, despite their acute awareness of the specific torture of being in a process group.

Sarah + Vanessa talk about their present belief that process groups are more about developing a greater understanding/consciousness about our creature-selves, and less about functioning as a self-improvement project.