Vanessa + Sarah talk about words to avoid in Process Groups to reduce polite  faux-neutrality in pursuit of specificity and realness.  

Vanessa asks Sarah about her vocal nodule procedure and 72 hours of no-talking, and the two think out loud about the utility of studying our projections.  

Sarah tells Vanessa how she is feeling about a vocal cord procedure scheduled for the following day to treat her vocal nodules, and how process groups helped her advocate for herself in the medical arena.

Sarah + Vanessa attempt to describe a process group succinctly, wonder if it's akin to the mind-numbing quality of verbally describing a board game, and share a recent group experience.  

Vanessa + Sarah talk about the experience of being witnessed in our grossness and the potentially meaningful information of disgust.

Sarah + Vanessa discuss Adult Skate Camp and the potentially avoidant quality of asking questions.

Sarah + Vanessa share more thoughts on the dangers and invitations or boredom and mattering.  

Vanessa + Sarah discuss the Wild Boar of Boredom, its potentially aggressive undertones, and the scary but vitalizing prospect of naming it.  

Sarah + Vanessa use Sarah Simpson's description of a process group to help clarify what it is that they're trying to do.  www.sarahsimpsoncounseling.com 

Vanessa + Sarah discuss an article by Dr. Nancy McWilliams about the maternal and paternal aspects of analytic work, and Vanessa shares about her reconstructive lip surgery the day before the recording.