“Big vision starts small and moves fast” was one of the key takeaways when the SBM ITB podcast team got the opportunity to discuss with Mr. Wawan Dhewanto, Professor Entrepreneurship and Technology Management Interest Group at SBM ITB. Being one of leading expert on entrepreneurship in Indonesia, Mr. Wawan thinks that entrepreneurship is a future solution, especially during this economic downturn in Indonesia due to pandemics. Entrepreneurship has a big impact to recover the economic condition in Indonesia for example the appearance of startups and also the growth of SMEs are important. Mr. Wawan is also one of initiator of entrepreneurship Education in Indonesia with innovation on its learning system. Philosophically, entrepreneurship has been around for quite a long time, but it is usually in form of workshops, seminars, or training. SBM ITB becomes the pioneer of entrepreneurship in form of a university major, with a learning system consist of practical experience, students accompanied by a mentor, etc.