In episode 3 of ASPI’s special series ‘SBY’s tears: From managing crisis to managing process in Australia-Indonesia relations since the fall of Suharto’, Dr David Engel and Hillary Mansour speak to David Ritchie, Ambassador to Indonesia from 2002 until 2005. During his time as ambassador, David dealt with a number of crises, including the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami, a terror attack on the Australian Embassy and the arrest of the Bali Nine. They discuss Australia-Indonesia cooperation and how the bilateral relationship changed over the course of his tenure as ambassador.

Guests (in order of appearance):

Dr David Engel: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/david-engel

Hillary Mansour: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/hillary-mansour

David Ritchie AO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ritchie_(diplomat)

Background music: "Moonshiner" by Jacob Field Productions: https://soundcloud.com/jacobfieldpr/moonshiner-royalty-free-music