In the penultimate episode of ASPI’s special series ‘SBY’s tears: From managing crisis to managing process in Australia-Indonesia relations since the fall of Suharto’, Dr David Engel, Head of ASPI’s Indonesia Program and Hillary Mansour, former ASPI Research Intern, speak to Greg Moriarty, who was ambassador to Indonesia from 2010 until 2014.

Their conversation explores Indonesia’s foreign policy under SBY, the bilateral economic relationship and cooperation in the area of counter-terrorism. They also discuss some of the challenges in the bilateral relationship, such as the banning of live cattle exports to Indonesia and people smuggling.

Guests (in order of appearance):

Dr David Engel: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/david-engel

Greg Moriarty: https://www.defence.gov.au/about/leaders/secretary

Hillary Mansour: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/hillary-mansour