The ASPI special series ‘SBY’s tears: From managing crisis to managing process in Australia-Indonesia relations since the fall of Suharto’ has explored the changing nature of the Australian-Indonesian relationship since the fall of Suharto, as seen through the eyes and experiences of its ambassadors to Jakarta.

In this final episode of the series, Dr David Engel and Hillary Mansour revisit some of the themes explored throughout the series, such as Indonesia’s foreign policy, its relationship with Australia and the changes to Indonesian democracy. They reflect on the past experiences of Australia’s ambassadors, and how these lessons can impact our future relationship with Indonesia.

Guests (in order of appearance):

Dr David Engel: www.aspi.org.au/bio/david-engel

Hillary Mansour: www.aspi.org.au/bio/hillary-mansour

John McCarthy AO: asialink.unimelb.edu.au/about-us/lead…n-mccarthy-ao

Ric Smith AO, PSM: sdsc.bellschool.anu.edu.au/experts-pub…mith-ao-psm

David Ritchie AO: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ritchie_(diplomat)

Bill Farmer AO

Greg Moriarty: www.defence.gov.au/about/leaders/secretary

Gary Quinlan AO: www.apln.network/members/australi…gary-quinlan/bio