What’s it like to be in-between a celebrity and their fans? What’s it like to have a real relationship with a famous person—and have fans think you might be an access point to that person?

Editorial Support by Dr. Anna Funk: @itsdrfunk.bsky.social

Music written & performed by Chris Scott: @Chrispscott

And new music written & performed by August Hotel: @augusthotel

Cover art by Liz Hand: @__ellie

See full episode transcript at www.sadiewit.com

Resources from this episode:

Listen to Normal Gossip: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/normal-gossip/id1597761181

Read 'You didn't hear this from me': https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-didn-t-hear-this-from-me-mostly-true-notes-on-gossip-kelsey-mckinney/21441330

See Bert's "showgirl" costumed look: https://www.instagram.com/resortsworldlv/p/C8pYKvHP667/

Chicago Music Exchange: https://www.instagram.com/chicagomusicexchange/

Jennifer's gofundme: https://www.gofundme.com/f/jp-jennifer-may-nickel-eaton-fire-relief-fund

Ackles' dog, Icarus: https://www.instagram.com/danneelackles512/p/B-hx9mzgYBC/?img_index=1

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