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Caddy Callaghan: From Shelved Songs to a Nashville-Produced Debut and a Melbourne Video Premiere
Host Becky Boyland interviews Melbourne songwriter Caddy Callaghan on Second Verse about returning to music after years of keeping it âon the side table.â Caddy shares her early love of music, learning piano, writing songs on guitar and ukulele, and taking an unconventional career path through primary school teaching, a childrenâs music publishing deal at 24, and later hospital pastoral care. During Melbourneâs COVID lockdown, with young kids and a new baby, she joined an online masterclass with Australian artist Rick Price; after hearing her play via video call, he offered to produce her debut record. Caddy eventually flew to Nashville to record 11 songs, is releasing the project one single at a time (with a fifth single, âSolo Roam,â coming this month), and is premiering its music video at a Melbourne cinema while also beginning work on a second record with producer Jay Smith.
https://youtu.be/PR-KO8MF6ng
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Broadway Drummer Clayton Craddock on the Trust Economy, Building Relationships, and Starting Over at 60
Host Becky Boyland interviews Broadway drummer and author Clayton Craddock about how relationshipsânot chopsâcreate lasting music careers. Clayton shares growing up surrounded by soul, funk, rock, and jazz, falling in love with drums, and being steered toward accounting at Howard University before moving to New York in 1993 to pursue music while working day jobs. Over years of networking, he landed touring work (Footloose, Tick, Tick⊠Boom!), began subbing on Broadway (including Rent), and earned major credits and awards, ultimately playing four Tony Awardâwinning shows and two off-Broadway award winners, with his last being CATS: The Jellicle Ball (which closed after four months). Now starting over in Las Vegas at 60, he teaches âtalent will get you in, but trust will get you hiredâ through Broadway Bound and Beyond, his book, podcast, and masterclass, emphasizing the long game, versatility, and realistic expectations.
https://youtu.be/JP7ieIO_6RY
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Jesse Sterling Harrison on a Bulletproof Creative Process, Archival Releases, and Keeping Music Fun
In this episode of Second Verse, Becky interviews songwriter, recording artist, and author Jesse Sterling Harrison, whose archival solo acoustic album Catch and Release Program has been remastered and released on Brave Tiger Records, curated by Joshua David Thayer; the songs were recorded in a living room around 1998 and previously circulated only among friends. Jesse describes starting to make up songs at age four or five, being influenced by a musical family, and later sidelining music during early parenthood before returning after divorce and, more recently, as an empty nester in his 50s. He explains a âbulletproofâ creative process built on capturing ideas anywhere (work truck, tractor, airport terminals, voice memos, and even soap notes on a bathroom mirror), writing an album using the online drum machine Drumbit, and organizing a wide-ranging catalog into distinct projects with clear elevator pitches. He also shares how a humbling party jam pushed him to maintain his guitar skills and emphasizes prioritizing fun in recording and performance.
https://youtu.be/ZPacUjeKPDo
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Second Verse: Vincent Van Den Broeck on Mindset, Consistency, and Doing the Work Until Itâs Done
Host Becky Boyland interviews Belgian entrepreneur/restauranteur and author Vincent Van den Broeck, who shares how music has always shaped his life through emotionally linked moments. After being hit by a car on a scooter in Brussels on October 11, 2024, Vincent spent three weeks in a coma and months in rehab, where a friendâs music pushed him to âdo more, take one more step.â Now recovered, he wrote Everything Feels Impossible Until Itâs Done and founded the Until Itâs Done (UID) Club to help people pursue goals with consistency and accountability. In the conversation he challenges Beckyâand listenersâwith âWhy do you do what you do?⊠Now do. Show me,â emphasizing that impact isnât measured by views and that becoming an artist comes down to who you are when life isnât going your way.
https://youtu.be/9_R1z_w5aY0
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Kris Bradley on Burnout, Autism Discovery, and Reclaiming Her Authentic Sound with âMidnight Church Aftermathâ
Host Becky Boyland welcomes Maui-based indie artist Kris Bradley, an independent singer-songwriter, producer, and guitarist who spent over 20 years largely behind the scenes writing to briefs, producing for other artists, earning 200+ film/TV placements, and building the music education company Produce Like A Boss. Kris shares her early musical roots, stage fright, touring with an all-girl Led Zeppelin tribute, learning songwriting craft, and producing out of necessity. She explains how entrepreneurship and marketing gradually pulled her away from making music, leading to severe autistic burnout, loss of short-term memory, and three years of creative darkness after selling her company. A spontaneous performance in Maui reignited her desire to perform and write, sparking her debut double-disc concept album, âMidnight Church Aftermath,â recorded with a full band near Nashville and described as âAmeri-Kinda,â emphasizing authenticity over commercial rules.
https://youtu.be/wbwyNH2PFN4
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Harley DiNardo on Getting Dropped Twice, Returning to Music After 9/11 Loss, and Going All In After the Palisades Fire
Host Becky Boyland interviews New York-born singer-songwriter Harley DiNardo about his long path back to music after early success, two major-label deals, and years away. Harley traces his origin story from a formative high school Battle of the Bands to relentless practice, switching from bass to singing, and partnering with songwriter-guitarist Derrek Hawkins. He describes getting signed to Warner Brothers-backed Revolution Records after a Ticketmaster competition and later landing a BMG-backed deal for White Light Motorcade by handing demo CDs to strangers while working as a waiter, only to be dropped both times due to poor marketing. After stepping back to raise a family and run a hair salon, a wildfire that burned down his new salon and threatened his home pushed him to commit fully to music. He discusses negative self-talk, age stigma, tragedy including losing his sister in 9/11, and his new single âLA to NY.â
https://youtu.be/9SoclNknUdk
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Tom Sykes on Cold-Calling John Hammond, Failing Forward in Entertainment, and Making Music in the Age of Algorithms
Host Becky Boyland interviews songwriter, writer, filmmaker, and former entertainment executive Tom Sykes, whose music journey began with a cold call to legendary A&R John Hammond, producer of Bob Dylanâs first album and the scout who discovered artists like Bruce Springsteen and Aretha Franklin. Tom describes how low confidence complicated his early momentum, leading him to step back from performing and focus on songwritingâthen pivot into entertainment work after taking a video store job in Atlanta that led to marketing roles and decades of âfailing forwardâ through companies including Embassy Pictures, Turner Broadcasting, WEA, and Showtime, where he turned struggling divisions profitable. He discusses keeping music alive amid constant moves, critiques algorithms, streaming economics, and AI-generated music, and emphasizes audience support for indie artists. Tom shares updates on his book A Long Hard Road, documentaries, and ongoing music releases, and points listeners to tomsykesmusic.com.
https://youtu.be/_eS1vqbgxcM
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Chris Aarons on Building a Music Legacy: DIY Home Recording, Daily Consistency, and Independent Artist Survival
Host Becky Boyland interviews Orlando singer-songwriter and self-taught producer Chris Aarons on Second Verse about returning to music, building a legacy, and navigating independent artistry. Chris shares how childhood trumpet, a shift from business to voice and musical theater in college, and mentorship shaped his path, followed by a painful first marriage that pushed him to choose his own dreams and channel grief into songwriting, including âRain.â He describes guidance from Derric Johnson and studio experiences with his friend Natasha and producer John LaRosa, then launching his first release in February 2020 as COVID hit. Chris explains learning production, recording with improvised DIY booths using blankets and moving supplies, and wearing every hatâmarketing, distribution, copyright, and bookingâwhile parenting. He advises starting with what you have, avoiding predatory promises, and showing up daily for music in small consistent sessions. He has released eight originals and three covers and highlights his single âColors Pass By.â
https://youtu.be/gEFTknxdV1U
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Dan From Downingtown on Anonymous Alt-Rock, DIY Recording, and Letting Fans Find You | Second Verse Podcast
Host Becky Boyland interviews Dan From Downingtown, a masked independent alternative rock/post-hardcore artist who built his solo career after the pandemic shut down his Boston band and pushed him into isolation and songwriting, encouraged by his friend and collaborator Noah. Dan explains how his 2023 debut EP âStasisâ launched a growing cult following and how his latest album âEn-tro-pyâ uses the physics concept of entropy as a metaphor for a love triangle and obsession with the past, recorded largely in his apartment and truck with experimental sound-design techniques. They discuss DIY production, using modern tools to âbreakâ sounds, balancing studio polish with honesty and human performance, why restraint often beats perfection, and how authenticity cuts through an entertainment-driven industry. Dan advises artists to stay financially stable, make mistakes, avoid chasing fame, and create music to tell a story.
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Nick Stefanacci on Saying Yes, Leaving Teaching, and Building Sweet Lion Music
Host Becky Boyland interviews saxophonist Nick Stefanacci on Second Verse about his one-word philosophyââyesââand how saying yes to gigs and opportunities shaped his career. Nick shares his origin story: growing up in a musical New Jersey family, choosing saxophone in fourth grade, early jazz performances, and mentorship from teacher J. Chuck Sastre, whose death led Nick to launch a memorial scholarship funded by a benefit concert that raised over $20,000. He discusses teaching music for 15 years, resigning mid-year in his 40s for mental health and to pursue music full-time, and reconnecting with faith during the transition. Nick explains his creative approach of continually changing sounds, starting to write his own music after being told he didnât fit, founding Sweet Lion Music after labels rejected him, and details his album Right Here, Right Now, including a reimagined âOye Como Vaâ featuring Santana vocalist Tony Lindsay.
https://youtu.be/KZTPMlMLKtQ
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