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  • Just Start: How David Rosen Built a Life in Music, Podcasting, and "The Pup Pups"

    From Vinyl to Film Scores: How David Rosen Found His Musical Calling

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with David Rosen, a versatile indie artist whose journey spans from growing up in a family-owned record store to producing rap music, composing film scores, and creating comedy rock about his pets. David shares the importance of letting one creative endeavor fuel another, and reveals insights into building long-term collaborative relationships. From using different DAWs to making movie-inspired music and creating eclectic projects like The Pup Pups, David's story is a testament to stacking your passions wherever they lead. Tune in for an inspiring conversation packed with actionable advice for any indie artist.

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    • Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

    Connect with David Rosen:

    • https://www.bydavidrosen.com
    • https://www.youtube.com/musicbydavidrosen
    • https://open.spotify.com/artist/6DmD8UrO4UEjz3aYdz1nbZ?si=N6eFFOf8S1SUHoaKDbgJYQ
    • https://open.spotify.com/artist/7MZZckZ0jCfm53FpAPsU7z?si=FZw06SN2RYOn8D6FeMdZqA
    • https://www.facebook.com/bydavidrosen
    • https://www.piecingpod.com
    • https://twitter.com/piecingpod
    • https://instagram.com/piecingpod
    • https://www.awesomemovieyear.com

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser Clip: David Rosen
    • 00:24 Becky's Welcome and Introduction
    • 01:32 Welcoming David and Early Musical Influences
    • 02:41 Discovering a Passion for Music
    • 03:48 Early Musical Ventures
    • 10:50 Transition to Film Scoring
    • 20:00 The Pup Pups: A Unique Musical Project
    • 25:04 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity
    • 26:25 Sponsor: Singing / Straw
    • 27:22 Music Videos and Collaborations
    • 28:35 Upcoming Album and Projects
    • 35:47 Podcasting Journey
    • 43:11 Advice for Independent Artists
    • 44:04 Final Thoughts and Connecting with David
    • 46:34 The Coda
    • 47:47 Featured Song: "How to Start a Fire" by David Rosen

    52 min
  • Singing His Song: Phil Lovell’s Journey from Welsh Classrooms to Songwriting

    Phil Lovell: From Classroom to Songwriting - A Journey of Creativity and Persistence

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Phil Lovell, a retired teacher turned songwriter who crafts thoughtful songs in English and Welsh. Phil shares his journey from nurturing his musical passion quietly while working in education for over 30 years to diving fully into songwriting and performing after retirement. They discuss Phil’s creative process, the impact of music on culture, the challenges of self-promotion, and the importance of pursuing one’s passion at any stage in life. Phil’s story emphasizes that creativity deepens with time and offers inspiration for anyone who thinks they’ve missed their chance. Stay tuned for his energetic Welsh song, 'Dw i’n canu fy nghân.'

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    • Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

    Connect with Phil Lovell (Baglanbren):

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/baglanbren/
    • X: https://x.com/baglanbren
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baglanbren

    Phil’s Music:

    • https://open.spotify.com/album/18FSt8LPogmNTxZuac3CCK?si=uD86_3SCRKCxBANCBKfknQ
    • https://youtu.be/pYI8NEInZWA?si=Io1MNIuZsYfA9XTT
    • https://youtu.be/D_Z4DvpRgwc?si=C-Wsppn3oA6hi89P

    Featured Song:

    “Dw i’n canu fy nghân” by Phil Lovell / Baglanbren, written by Phil Lovell (used with permission).

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser Clip: Phil Lovell
    • 00:27 Episode Intro
    • 01:49 Welcome Phil and Early Musical Influences
    • 03:36 Teaching and Songwriting Journey
    • 04:51 Reconnecting with Former Students
    • 05:37 Welsh Music Competitions and Traditions
    • 06:45 Transitioning Back to Music After Retirement
    • 07:18 Songwriting Courses and Collaborations
    • 09:29 Performing and Recording Experiences
    • 16:26 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity
    • 17:47 Sponsor: Singing / Straw
    • 18:45 Challenges and Rewards of Songwriting
    • 25:23 The Importance of Arts in Education
    • 34:18 Influences from the Past
    • 36:50 The Craft of Songwriting
    • 40:58 Realistic Advice for Aspiring Musicians
    • 48:36 Conclusion and Farewell
    • 49:38 The Coda
    • 51:24 Featured Song: Dw i’n canu fy nghân

    55 min
  • Building Momentum: The Art of Saying Yes with Music Mentor Greig Watts

    Finding Success by Saying Yes: Greig Watts' Journey from Banking to Hit Songwriting

    In this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Greig Watts, a music publisher and songwriting mentor who transitioned from a career in banking to co-founding DWB Music. Watts shares his inspiring journey of pursuing his passion for music, the importance of mentorship, and the power of saying 'yes' to opportunities. He discusses developing and guiding songwriters, the significance of being accountable, and how to keep the creative spark alive. Greig's story is a testament to the courage needed to follow your dreams and the rewards that come from perseverance and open-mindedness.

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    • Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

    Follow Greig Watts & DWB Music:

    • DWB Website: https://www.dwbmusicgroup.com/
    • DWB Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwbmusic/
    • DWB Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DwbMusicLtd/
    • DWB Songwriting Mentors: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089439048327
    • Greig Watts Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/greig.watts

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser Clip
    • 00:37 Introduction
    • 01:55 Welcome and Early Influences
    • 02:57 Teenage Years and Musical Growth
    • 06:47 Balancing Music and Career
    • 08:48 Transition to Full-Time Music
    • 11:17 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity
    • 12:36 Sponsor: Singing / Straw
    • 13:33 Founding DWB
    • 14:32 Mentorship and Development
    • 21:04 Diversifying in the Music Industry
    • 24:35 The Power of Getting Your Song Heard
    • 26:52 Mentorship and the Journey to Success
    • 28:52 The Importance of Saying Yes
    • 31:47 The Value of Co-Writing and Collaboration
    • 32:27 Writing and Releasing a Book
    • 35:10 Learning from Failures and Moving Forward
    • 37:10 Joining the Mentorship Program
    • 39:54 Building a Community of Songwriters
    • 44:08 Final Thoughts and Advice for Indie Artists
    • 47:38 The Coda

    50 min
  • Chris Evans of AudioGust: Why It’s Time to Start, Ship, and Repeat

    Hooky Anthems and Disenchanted Optimists: Chris Evans Finds Joy in Music's Second Act

    Join host Becky Boyland on the Second Verse podcast as she chats with Chris Evans, an alt/indie rock artist, songwriter, and producer known as AudioGust. Dive into Chris's fascinating journey from '80s rock bands to a successful software career and back to music. Learn how he built his own soundproof studio, released over three dozen songs, and collaborates with artists worldwide. Chris shares valuable insights on balancing logic and heart, finding creative joy, and approaching music with a blend of precision and play. Discover how Chris handles writer’s block, his perspective on perfectionism, and the importance of community in music. Perfect for indie artists and creatives ready to find their Second Verse in music.

    Sponsors:

    • Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
    • Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied)

    Follow Chris Evans / AudioGust:

    • Website: https://audiogust.com
    • Instagram: @audiogustmusic (https://www.instagram.com/audiogustmusic)
    • Threads: @audiogustmusic (https://www.threads.com/@audiogustmusic)
    • Bandcamp: https://audiogust.bandcamp.com

    Featured Song:

    “Here We Go Again” by AudioGust, written by Chris Evans (used with permission). Stream or buy wherever you get your music.

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser Clip
    • 00:31 Welcome and Introduction
    • 01:36 Music in Chris's Early Life
    • 02:40 College Years and Early Career
    • 03:50 Transition to Software
    • 05:53 Retirement and Return to Music
    • 07:17 Songwriting and Production
    • 14:06 Finding an Audience
    • 17:58 The Creative Process
    • 20:03 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity
    • 21:24 Sponsor: Singing / Straw
    • 22:22 Loving, and Finishing, Songs
    • 25:31 Releasing Music and Growth
    • 35:41 Storytelling in Songs
    • 37:19 Empathy in Songwriting
    • 41:44 Transitioning Careers
    • 45:26 The Joy of Creating Music
    • 47:24 Advice for Aspiring Songwriters
    • 49:54 The Importance of Inspiration
    • 56:40 Where to Follow AudioGust
    • 57:48 The Coda
    • 59:27 Featured Song: "Here We Go Again" by AudioGust

    1 hr 3 min
  • Rebuilding My Voice: Becky Boyland’s Vocal Cord Recovery feat. Whitney Nichole

    Healing Through Music: Overcoming Vocal Trauma with Guest Whitney Nichole

    In this deeply personal episode, host Becky Boyland shares her compelling journey of overcoming vocal trauma following major spine surgery. Initially facing the terrifying possibility of never singing again due to a paralyzed vocal cord, Becky describes the emotional and physical challenges she faced. She highlights the pivotal role of vocal coach Whitney Nichole, who introduced Becky to transformative techniques like straw phonation. Together, they worked meticulously to rebuild her voice, ultimately leading Becky to new vocal heights. This episode is a testament to perseverance, hope, and the power of music to heal. Tune in to hear this inspiring story and Becky's latest single, “Loving You.”

    Resources:

    • About Whitney Nichole
    • The Singing / Straw Website with 10% discount (or use coupon code "secondverse")
    • The Singing / Straw YouTube Channel
    • Songbird Studios

    Featured Song:

    • ”Loving You” by Becky Boyland, written by Philip Lovell and Becky Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.
    • Add to your library now: https://hypeddit.com/beckyboyland/lovingyou

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity
    • 01:19 Teaser: My Story of Vocal Healing
    • 01:33 Intro: Setting the Stage
    • 01:46 The Unexpected Loss
    • 03:54 Healing and Complication
    • 08:05 Searching for Solutions and the Start of the Journey Back
    • 09:09 Vocal Coaching
    • 11:33 Lessons, and Not Just the Voice Kind
    • 14:25 Conversation with Whitney Nichole
    • 51:06 Conclusion and the Ongoing Journey
    • 52:13 Featured Song: "Loving You”

    56 min
  • From FBI Agent to Music Maven: Tia Hoffer’s Unconventional Journey

    From FBI Agent to Music Composer: Tia Hoffer's Journey

    In this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Tia Hoffer, who has successfully transitioned from being an FBI Special Agent to a production music composer. They discuss Tia's early love for music, her fascinating career in psychology and law enforcement, and the mindset shifts that led her to pursue a music career later in life. Tia shares insights on the importance of starting imperfectly, protecting creative energy, and the numerous opportunities available in music beyond traditional artist roles. She also talks about her creative process, the therapeutic aspect of music, and her aspirations in the production music industry. The episode emphasizes the significance of taking small steps toward one's dreams and the value of community and mentorship in overcoming challenges.

    Connect with Tia:

    • Website: zeninumusic.com
    • Instagram: @zeninumusic
    • Facebook: Tia Alane

    Resources:

    • Produce Like a Boss
    • Production Music Masterclass

    Timestamps:

    • 00:00 Teaser Clip
    • 00:25 Episode Introduction
    • 01:49 Welcome to Tia and Early Musical Influences
    • 02:30 Exploring Career Opportunities in Music
    • 05:35 Psychology and FBI Career Journey
    • 07:48 Transition to Music Production
    • 09:12 Learning and Growing in Music Production
    • 15:00 Creative Process and Musical Style
    • 17:23 Challenges and Future Goals
    • 26:18 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity
    • 27:40 Focusing on Production Music
    • 28:12 Medical Challenges and Reevaluating Priorities
    • 29:38 Psychological Insights for Musicians
    • 36:48 Social Media and Branding Challenges
    • 44:52 Advice for Aspiring Musicians
    • 52:16 The Importance of Music in Media
    • 53:14 Conclusion and Contact Information
    • 54:15 Becky's Wrap-Up
    • 56:22 Featured Song: "Shame" by Kai Z

    1 hr
  • Elephant Ears: How Alfredo Paz Found His Way Back to Music After Burnout

    Rediscovering the Creative Spark: Alfredo Paz's Journey as Elephant Ears

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Alfredo Paz, known professionally as Elephant Ears—a talented producer, songwriter, and sound designer. Alfredo shares his journey of leaving and then rediscovering his passion for music after years in the sound engineering and film industry. He discusses the significance of collaboration, the challenges of balancing life and creativity, and the emotional depth he brings to his music. Highlights include Alfredo's insights on the music industry, his unique creation processes, and the importance of authenticity and community in creative work.

    Connect with Alfredo Paz (Elephant Ears):

    • Website: www.elephantears.co.uk
    • Instagram: @elephant_ears_audio
    • Facebook: elephant_ears_audio
    • Linktree: https://linktr.ee/elephant_ears_audio

    Featured Song:

    ”Black Ink” by Elephant Ears feat. Dom Durner and Giulio Romano Malaisi, written by Johanna Lundström and Alfredo Paz (used with permission).

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Teaser Clip

    00:20 Episode Introduction

    01:25 Welcoming Alfredo

    01:46 Early Musical Influences

    02:32 Learning Music and Early Challenges

    05:49 Professional Beginnings and Break

    08:15 Transition to Sound Engineering

    09:58 Return to Music During the Pandemic

    14:25 The Birth of Elephant Ears

    16:22 Collaborations and Musical Style

    24:06 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity

    25:28 Challenges of Balancing Music and Life

    29:28 The Role of Authenticity in Music

    30:21 Encouragement for Aspiring Musicians

    34:28 The Value of Collaboration

    36:15 Promoting Your Music Effectively

    37:46 Where to Find and Support the Artist

    41:05 Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts

    42:36 Featured Song: "Black Ink”

    47 min
  • Adassa’s Inspiring Story: Music, Miracles, and Making “Encanto”

    Adassa's Journey: From Paralysis to Disney's Encanto

    In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Adassa, the bilingual Afro-Latina voice actress, singer, and songwriter. Adassa shares her remarkable journey of resilience, from facing a sudden health crisis and total paralysis to achieving a breakout role as Dolores Madrigal in Disney's Encanto. The conversation touches on the importance of community, consistency, and authenticity in the music industry. Adassa also offers practical tips and wisdom for indie artists striving to find their voice and purpose in challenging times.

    Connect with Adassa:

    • Website
    • TikTok
    • Instagram
    • Twitter / X
    • YouTube
    • Facebook

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Teaser Clip

    00:33 Introduction

    02:40 Welcoming Adassa

    02:59 Early Musical Beginnings

    03:59 First Steps into Professional Music

    06:25 Career Highlights and Family Decisions

    07:17 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity

    08:40 Behind the Scenes

    11:21 Unexpected Opportunity with Disney

    16:37 Health Crisis and Personal Struggles

    23:22 Miraculous Recovery and Recording for Encanto

    25:49 Embracing New Skills and Perspectives

    26:39 Relearning and Patience

    27:31 Finding Your Voice Through Adversity

    28:22 Building a Supportive Community

    30:46 The Importance of Mentorship

    34:56 Balancing Family and Career

    37:38 Prioritizing and Achieving Goals

    45:32 Advice for Aspiring Artists

    48:29 Conclusion and Gratitude

    49:31 Wrap-Up and Takeaways

    52 min
  • MS Changed Her Life—Music Gave It Back: Cindy Slee’s Second Verse

    From Nursing to Music Production: Cindy's Inspirational Journey

    In this episode, Becky welcomes Cindy Slee to discuss her profound journey from a musically inspired childhood to a dedicated nurse, and finally becoming a full-time musician after being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Cindy shares how her early love for music, fostered by her family's influence, evolved from enjoying the piano stylings of Liberace to mastering the guitar influenced by The Beatles. Despite a thriving nursing career, her love for music persisted, eventually becoming her primary focus. Cindy delves into how her MS diagnosis necessitated a career shift, leading her to embrace music fully. She discusses her experiences with a church band, forming a gospel group, producing music for ads, and her recent endeavor to inspire others through keynote concerts. Cindy highlights the importance of seizing opportunities and finding a silver lining in adversity. The episode underscores resilience, passion, and the power of following one's true calling. Then stick around to hear her original song 'Once in a Lifetime.'

    Connect with Cindy:

    • https://www.cindysleemusic.com
    • https://www.cynthiakeynoteconcerts.com
    • Apple Music / iTunes: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/cindy-slee/895299558
    • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6yogaOgnhXk25JSOoF98Vo?si=A8IDpmRsSQyx7ThoG5_U8w
    • YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCAWuHRMiJjF2VVmbh6-6Hiw?si=-FNzGJvzfN11DkBx

    Featured Song:

    “Once In A Lifetime” by Cindy Slee, written by Cynthia L. Slee (used with permission).

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Teaser Clip

    00:26 Introduction

    03:01 Welcome and Early Musical Influences

    04:28 Family Influence and Career Path

    06:22 Transition from Nursing to Music

    07:42 Building a Music Career

    09:42 Learning and Growing During COVID

    11:24 Sponsor: Attitude Creativity

    12:46 Collaboration from (Virtually) Anywhere

    17:35 Keynote Concerts and Future Plans

    25:47 Advice and Final Thoughts

    28:54 Wrap-Up and Conclusion

    31:20 Featured Song: "Once in a Lifetime" by Cindy Slee

    36 min
  • Finding My Own Second Verse in Music

    Finding My Second Verse: A Solo Journey with Becky Boyland, the Host of Second Verse Podcast

    In this special solo episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland shares her inspiring personal journey to her music dream. She emphasizes that it's never too late to return to your passion, offering her own story as proof. The episode covers her early love for music, including her journey from playing trumpet in high school to studying Bible and Educational Ministries in college. A pivotal moment came when she rediscovered the guitar, which took her musical passion to a new level. The host also touches on her battle with self-doubt, her discovery of being neurodivergent, and the importance of community and mentors in her musical evolution. She interweaves stories from past guests, highlighting the powerful lessons they've taught her. The episode concludes with an emotional song called 'It's Your Story Now' that delves into reclaiming one's life.

    Featured Song:

    ”It’s Your Story Now” by Becky Boyland is written and produced by Becky Boyland. Used with permission. https://hypeddit.com/beckyboyland/itsyourstorynow

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Teaser Clip

    00:17 Welcome and Introduction

    01:18 The First Verse: Early Dreams & Quiet Longing

    03:59 New Perspective: One Scroll, One Spark

    05:00 Leveling Up: Putting in the Work

    05:59 My Second Verse Now

    07:00 What I've Learned from My Guests

    07:52 The ADHD Discovery: This Is How I'm Wired

    09:01 What Comes Next: Your Second Verse

    10:20 Your Turn to Take Action

    11:04 Song: "It's Your Story Now”

    15 min

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