Second Verse

Michael Isaak on Arabesque Folk, Diaspora Identity, and The Carpet Maker

Host Becky Boyland interviews Los Angeles–born Egyptian American musician Michael Isaak about his journey from church hymns, Arabic classics, and early FL Studio production to creating a new sound he calls “arabesque folk.” After making indie folk influenced by Phoebe Bridgers and Sufjan Stevens, a first trip to Egypt at 19 sparked deeper cultural immersion; he brought home an oud, later transferred to Columbia University, studied Arabic language and Arab music history and theory, and joined the Arab Music Ensemble. Michael shares how experimenting and jamming helped Arabic motifs emerge naturally instead of feeling forced, his critique of the “world music” framing, and his goal of building in-person community through intimate shows. They discuss his debut album The Carpet Maker (May 15) and lead single “Hold Your Keys” (March 6), reflecting on diaspora, displacement, and the hope of return.

https://youtu.be/YiRyILUz2Jc

Connect with Michael Isaak:

• https://www.instagram.com/michaelisaakmusic
• https://tiktok.com/@michaelisaakmusic
• https://youtube.com/@michaelisaakmusic
• https://open.spotify.com/artist/559rQJZL0GYH9lVU6zi5ey?si=KXUULlsqT16kSTJggFiQ8A
• https://music.apple.com/us/artist/michael-isaak/1644644907
• https://michaelisaak.us

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com
• She Produces Music: https://www.sheproducesmusic.com

Featured Song:

• ”Hold Your Keys” by Michael Isaak, written by Michael Isaak & Sohail Bagheri (used with permission). All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 0:00 Teaser: Michael Isaak Interview
• 00:38 Introduction
• 02:12 Meet Michael Isaak
• 03:26 Learning to Perform and Produce
• 06:05 Taking the Leap From College
• 07:38 Finding an Arab Folk Identity
• 13:29 Oud Origins and Obsession
• 16:40 Blending Arabic and Western Sounds
• 26:39 Beyond World Music Labels
• 30:51 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
• 31:24 SPONSOR: She Produces Music
• 31:59 The Carpet Maker Album Story
• 38:17 Marketing vs Meaning
• 40:46 Building Community Through Shows
• 43:57 Advice and Influences to Explore
• 47:17 Where to Find the Music
• 48:08 Release Dates and Farewell
• 48:51 Coda
• 51:16 Featured Song: "Hold Your Keys" by Michael Isaak, written by Michael Isaak & Sohail Bagheri

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Prin’s Second Verse: From 9/11 Hospitalization to Wellness-Centered Music Production

Host Becky Boyland interviews New Jersey-based music producer, author, and educator Prin, who began playing piano by ear at age three, worked as a paid musician by 15, and built a thriving NYC gigging and composing life while at Fordham. After graduating in 2001, untreated bipolar disorder and substance abuse led her into a free inpatient case-study program at the New York State Psychiatric Institute, where she was hospitalized on 9/11, prompting a renewed commitment to mental health. A back injury halted performing for years, shifting her into counseling, education, and writing. After leaving higher ed, she was hit by a car and suffered lasting left-hand nerve damage, later returning to gigs and releasing her first album in 2016. Subsequent car accidents, disc replacement surgery (2019), the pandemic, and her brother’s death after COVID led her into music production, sound healing, and an ambient grief project, “The Calm Principles.”

https://youtu.be/OPJ9_mkKL1g

Connect with Prin:

• https://www.facebook.com/musicbyprin
• https://www.instagram.com/musicbyprin
• https://www.tiktok.com/@musicbyprin
• https://musicbyprin.com

Sponsors:

• She Produces Music: https://www.sheproducesmusic.com

Featured Song:

• ”A Long Time Coming” by Prin, written by Princess Yvonne Duma (used with permission). All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 Teaser: Prin's Interview
• 00:26 Introduction
• 01:30 Meet Prin
• 01:53 Early Piano Roots
• 03:16 Stage Fright Breakthrough
• 06:40 Fordham and NYC Hustle
• 09:15 NYC Artist Community
• 11:55 Fear of Original Music
• 13:24 Mental Health Pivot
• 16:30 In the Hospital During 9/11
• 19:36 Back Injury Ends Gigging
• 20:46 Career In Counseling Education
• 22:23 SPONSOR: She Produces Music
• 25:22 Quit Job Then Car Accident
• 28:57 Return to Music and First Album
• 30:45 Finding New Creative Tools
• 31:36 Album Release Gets Derailed
• 33:34 Surgery Recovery Meets Pandemic
• 34:33 Learning Production Independence
• 36:22 Grief Becomes Healing Project
• 38:54 Mental Health and Balance
• 43:19 Letting Songs Be Imperfect
• 47:50 Reinventing Old Songs
• 52:26 Production Tips and Tech
• 01:00:34 Artist Identity and Where to Find Me
• 01:03:05 Coda
• 01:06:20 Featured Song: "A Long Time Coming" by Prin

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Embracing Multiple Selves: A Journey into Music with Sophie Bickerdike

In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland welcomes Sophie Bickerdike, an indie artist who shares her journey of exploring multiple musical identities under different names. Sophie talks about how she started creating music out of necessity during COVID for her yoga studio and evolved into producing meditative tracks, healing frequencies, and experimental sounds. She discusses the challenges of coming to music later in life, the joy of playful experimentation, and the power of finishing small projects. Sophie's story is an inspiring reminder that it's never too late to start a new creative journey.

https://youtu.be/Qze1Cxw-jNY

Connect with Sophie Bickerdike:

• Web: www.lunalightmusiclabel.com
• Facebook: www.facebook.com/sophiebickerdikemusic
• Instagram: www.instagram.com/sophiebickerdikemusic
• Bandcamp: https://lunalightmusic.bandcamp.com

Mentioned in the Episode:

• Dr. Masaru Emoto: How Emotion Influences Water: https://bornastheearth.com/dr-masaru-emoto/
• Masaru Emoto Water Experiments: https://youtu.be/1qQUFvufXp4
• Life by XLN Audio: https://www.xlnaudio.com/products/life
• Talent Is Timeless Community: https://www.talentistimeless.com/

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
• Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

Featured Song:

• ”528Hz Manifest Miracles - Angelic Extended Mix” by LunaLight & Sophia Bickerdike, written by Sophia Bickerdike (used with permission). All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 Episode Teaser: Sophie Bickerdike Interview
• 00:32 Introduction
• 01:59 Welcome to Sophie and Early Musical Influences
• 03:02 Journey into Music Production
• 04:01 Creating Relaxing and Experimental Music
• 07:35 Exploring Different Musical Tools and Techniques
• 13:02 Multiple Musical Personas
• 19:20 Navigating Neurodivergence in Music
• 23:36 Navigating Musical Identity and Acceptance
• 24:40 BROUGHT TO YOU BY Attitude Creativity
• 26:01 BROUGHT TO YOU BY Singing / Straw
• 26:59 Balancing Band Life and Rehearsals
• 27:29 Women in Music Production
• 29:04 Exploring the Power of Music Frequencies
• 34:52 Managing Multiple Music Projects
• 41:46 Advice for Aspiring Musicians
• 43:44 Where to Find and Support the Artist
• 45:02 Coda
• 46:55 Featured Song: "528Hz Manifest Miracles - Angelic Extended Mix" by LunaLight & Sophia Bickerdike

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Embracing Creative Renewal: Adriana Douglas' Journey from Corporate to Artistry

In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland welcomes music artist and creative guide Adriana Douglas, who shares her inspiring journey from a decade-long corporate career to rediscovering her childhood dream of becoming a singer. Adriana discusses the pivotal moment when she embraced her artistic identity, the impact of Julia Cameron's The Artist's Way in unlocking her creativity, and her recent move to Nashville to immerse herself in a vibrant artistic community. Along with practical advice on navigating the music industry, Adriana emphasizes the importance of aligning career choices with personal values, the necessity of community support, and the resilience required to pursue artistic dreams. Listen in for an honest, energizing conversation about the challenges and triumphs of reclaiming one's creative passion.

https://youtu.be/CNM4a7gvBBg

Connect with Adriana Douglas:

• Web: https://www.adrianadouglas.com/
• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrianagdouglas
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theartofadrianaa/
• YouTube: https://youtube.com/@adrianagdouglas
• Streaming: on all major platforms

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
• Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

Featured Song:

• ”Dressed in Labels” by Adriana Douglas, written by Jessica Taylor, Adriana Douglas (used with permission). All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 Episode Teaser Clip
• 00:28 Episode Introduction
• 02:01 Welcome to Adriana
• 02:22 Adriana's Early Love for Music
• 03:55 Rediscovering Music and Creativity
• 05:35 The Impact of 'The Artist's Way'
• 09:09 Embracing Creativity in Daily Life
• 10:51 Moving to Nashville and New Beginnings
• 12:02 Navigating the Music Industry
• 26:09 The Importance of Community and Support
• 33:37 Challenges and Sacrifices in Pursuing Music
• 42:04 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Attitude Creativity
• 43:25 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Singing / Straw
• 44:22 Advice for Aspiring Artists
• 49:39 Upcoming Projects and How to Support Adriana
• 51:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
• 51:59 Coda
• 54:09 Featured Song: "Dressed in Labels" by Adriana Douglas, written by Jessica Taylor & Adriana Douglas

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Rediscovering Purpose Through Music with Kathi Fran

In this episode of Second Verse hosted by Becky Boyland, we meet Kathi Copans, who creates under the artist name Kathi Fran. Kathi shares her inspiring journey of growing up in a musical home, navigating the ups and downs of life, and finding her way back to music and songwriting after illness and loss. This conversation covers a range of topics including the evolving definition of success, the healing power of music, and the importance of kindness in the creative community. Becky and Kathi also discuss the challenges and rewards of co-writing, the importance of authenticity in art, and how even small steps in pursuing one's passion can lead to significant personal fulfillment and impact. Tune in for an episode full of wisdom, resilience, and musical inspiration.

https://youtu.be/EJrlJslaNro

Connect with Kathi Fran:

• Instagram: @kat_rocks_13
• linktr.ee/kathifran

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
• Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

Featured Song:

• ”Wintering” by Kathi Fran, written by Kathi Fran Copans & Wilhelmina Fleur Lavinia Walter (used with permission). All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 Kathi Fran Episode Teaser
• 00:13 Introduction
• 01:41 Welcome and Early Love for Music
• 04:32 Transition to School Teaching
• 07:43 Health Challenges and Rediscovery
• 10:13 Philosophical Reflections on Music
• 24:39 Creative Process and Collaborations
• 26:33 The Self-Promoting Artist
• 29:34 The Importance of Co-Writing and Community
• 31:35 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Attitude Creativity
• 32:56 BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Singing / Straw
• 33:54 Instrumentation and Production Techniques
• 36:07 The Art of Using MIDI and Live Instruments
• 42:51 Live Performances and Open Mics
• 45:19 Future Plans and Dreams
• 49:08 Advice for Aspiring Musicians
• 50:42 Coda
• 52:45 Featured Song: "Wintering" by Kathi Fran, written by Kathi Fran Copans & Wilhelmina Fleur Lavinia Walter

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Joshua David Thayer: From Sideman to Solo Artist

In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Joshua David Thayer, a seasoned bassist from Northampton, Massachusetts. After spending decades in supporting roles for various bands, the sudden loss of his father in 2023 inspired Josh to step into the spotlight as a solo artist at age 50. They discuss the creative process, using grief as a catalyst, and the importance of finishing projects over striving for perfection. Josh's journey is a testament to trusting the process and letting the material guide you to create honest and impactful work. Listen in as Josh shares his unique approach to music creation and the challenges of being an independent artist in 2025.

https://youtu.be/1CMNvWBdM9s

Connect with Joshua David Thayer:

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshuadavidthayer/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joshuadavidthayer/
• Bandcamp: https://joshuadavidthayer.bandcamp.com/
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JoshuaDavidThayer
• Website: www.joshuadavidthayer.com

Mentioned in the episode:

• Subvert: https://subvert.fm/
• Rick Rubin's "The Creative Act: A Way of Being": https://sites.prh.com/thecreativeact
• David Bowie Cut-Up Method: https://www.openculture.com/2019/05/how-david-bowie-used-william-s-burroughs-cut-up-method-to-write-his-unforgettable-lyrics.html

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint
• Singing / Straw: https://secondverse.com/singingstraw (affiliate link, 10% coupon auto-applied, or use code “secondverse”)

Featured Song:

• ”We Won’t Relent” by Joshua David Thayer, written by Joshua David Thayer. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 Teaser: Joshua David Thayer Interview
• 00:28 Introduction to the Episode
• 02:09 Welcoming Joshua David Thayer & Music Beginnings
• 03:26 High School Band to Rock Band
• 06:51 Early Success and Opportunities
• 11:25 Transition to a "Traditional" Career
• 18:19 FEATURING: Attitude Creativity
• 19:40 FEATURING: Singing / Straw
• 20:38 Rediscovering Music After Loss
• 24:10 Josh's Unique Creative Process
• 35:49 When Is the Music Ready?
• 40:57 Challenges and Rewards of Modern Music Creation
• 47:35 Current Projects and Future Plans
• 55:31 How to Support Josh's Music
• 57:35 Coda
• 59:36 Featured Song: "We Won't Relent" by Joshua David Thayer

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Building Confidence Through Small Steps: Insights from Second Verse Podcast

In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland emphasizes the importance of building confidence through small steps. She shares personal experiences, including a transformative songwriting retreat in Scotland. Becky highlights how taking minor actions can snowball into greater self-assurance. Featuring stories from past guests like Ben Kintisch, Kelly Hastings, Greig Watts, and Chris Evans, she illustrates how simple, consistent efforts can lead to significant progress in music careers. Becky also addresses common confidence busters, such as comparison and perfectionism, and provides practical micro habits for artists. Download her 'Creative Momentum Map' to help boost your creative journey.

https://youtu.be/YwuJLT61-zg

Download the Creative Momentum Map: 7 Small Actions to Reignite Your Music:

• https://secondversepod.com/confidence

Connect with Becky Boyland:

• https://beckyboyland.com
• https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
• https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
• https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic
• https://www.youtube.com/@beckyboyland

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

Featured Song:

• ”You Got Me” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland and Christina Ann Casella. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
• 01:19 Why Small Steps Matter
• 03:31 The Confidence-Action Loop
• 07:04 The Power of Small, Consistent Steps
• 08:59 Overcoming Resistance and Perfectionism
• 12:33 Building a Confidence Ecosystem
• 14:43 Coda
• 15:46 Featured Song: "You Got Me" by Becky Boyland

Songs from the Podcast Playlist:

• Stream all the released music from Second Verse any time! Add the official Songs from the Second Verse Podcast playlist to your Spotify now! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5lPUAY9uBYVVg9fmy03Bj3?si=5211c2db80334285

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The Power of Collaboration for Indie Artists

In this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the transformative power of collaboration for indie musicians. She breaks down why working together is crucial, not just in co-writing or production, but also in building community and maintaining accountability. Becky shares her own experiences and provides a step-by-step guide on how to find and foster successful creative partnerships. The episode concludes with her top six benefits of collaborating, emphasizing the importance of community and shared growth in achieving musical success. Tune in to hear inspiring stories and get practical tips to enhance your music journey.

https://youtu.be/6t-Pftkfo6w

Connect with Becky Boyland:

• https://beckyboyland.com
• https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
• https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
• https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic
• https://www.youtube.com/@beckyboyland

Sponsor:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

Featured Song:

• ”Ticket” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
• 01:19 Episode Introduction
• 03:14 The Myth of the "Solo Genius"
• 05:03 Finding Your Collaborative Match
• 07:46 Building Trust and Creative Chemistry
• 10:53 Collaboration Beyond the Studio
• 13:20 Top 6 Benefits of Collaborating as an Indie Music Artist
• 15:04 Coda
• 16:01 Featured Song: "Ticket" by Becky Boyland

Songs from the Podcast Playlist:

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Building Your Creative Ecosystem: Nurturing Sustainable Artistry for Indie Musicians

In this episode of Second Verse, hosted by Becky Boyland, indie music artists are guided on how to create and nurture a creative ecosystem that supports sustainable artistry. Sponsored by Attitude Creativity, the episode covers the importance of establishing an effective website and brand messaging. Becky emphasizes moving from clarity about one's artistic message to building a supportive environment that fosters growth. Key components include creative spaces, people, systems, and sustainability. Listeners are encouraged to develop intentional creative zones, build supportive circles, utilize structured systems, and prioritize rest in their creative journeys.

https://youtu.be/1ja7IxIw9hU

Connect with Becky Boyland:

• https://beckyboyland.com
• https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
• https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
• https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprint

Featured Song:

• ”Waiting for Wisdom” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Boyland & Sharon Vaughn. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 SPONSOR: Attitude Creativity
• 01:19 Episode Introduction
• 02:03 Why Artists Need Creative Ecosystems
• 04:42 The Four Components of a Creative Ecosystem
• 16:25 Why a Creative Ecosystem Matters
• 18:09 Coda
• 19:34 Featured Song: "Waiting for Wisdom”

Featured Music Playlist:

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Clarify Your Message as an Indie Artist: Practical Steps for Success

This episode of Second Verse, sponsored by Attitude Creativity, delves into the importance of clarity for indie music artists. The host discusses how having a clear message can help artists stand out and connect with their audience, emphasizing the need for consistent brand messaging across their website and social platforms. She offers three practical steps to craft a clear message: defining a one-liner that captures the essence of their music, testing it with friends for authenticity, and consistently applying it across all platforms. The episode concludes with the host's encouraging song, “Running on Empty,” which celebrates those who support us in our lives.

https://youtu.be/g0LtDFLgEbc

Connect with Becky Boyland:

• https://beckyboyland.com
• https://instagram.com/beckyboyland
• https://tiktok.com/beckyboyland
• https://facebook.com/beckyboylandmusic

Sponsors:

• Attitude Creativity: https://attitudecreativity.com/blueprintFeatured Song:
• ”Running on Empty” by Becky Boyland, written by Becky Joleen Boyland. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

Timestamps:

• 00:00 S2E6 How to Clarify Your Message as an Artist
• 01:19 Becky's Welcome & Introduction
• 03:05 Why Clarity Matters
• 05:00 Common Mistakes Artists Make
• 07:33 The Three Elements of an Artist Message
• 14:00 Coda
• 16:13 Three Practical Next Steps
• 17:46 Featured Song: "Running on Empty" by Becky Boyland

Songs from the Second Verse Podcast Playlist:

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