What makes a trip down the Mississippi river so famous - and so notorious? Why did it need to be rewritten in the 2024 novel James by Percival Everett? Is Huck Finn the most famous character in world literature? 

We’ve gone on record saying that The Great Gatsby is #1 Great American Novel - but this week we may have to eat our words. Is it actually The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, the book Mark Twain published in 1884 but set in America before the civil war. Released on the day of the Harris-Trump Presidential election, this episode is all about why Huck Finn remains what it has always been, a novel of division. 

Sophie and Jonty talk about why Huck Finn is a novel of divisions and polarizations. A novel for our times. The divisions are between North and South, between slave states and free, between confederates and unionists, between white and Black, between enslaved and emancipated. These are just some of the tensions that Twain took on and even though it’s nearly 150 years old, its themes and ideas are more relevant than ever. But is this book now racist to be readable? Or is it a vision of what America really is, a wake-up call that we must pay attention to? 

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Further Reading:

Mark Twain, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, (Norton Critical Edition, 4th Edition, 2021)

Jerome Loving, Mark Twain: The Adventures of Samuel L. Clemens (University of California Press, 2010)

William Dean Howells,  My Mark Twain (Dover, 1997, reprint of 1910 edition)

Rachel Cohen, A Chance Meeting, ( NYRB reprints, 2024)

Richard White, The Republic for Which It Stands - The United States during Reconstruction and the Gilded Age, 1865-1896 (Oxford, 2017)

There’s a great forthcoming biography of Mark Twain by the celebrated Ron Chernow, publishing May 2025.

Percival Everett, James (Doubleday 2024)

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Ever wonder what Shakespeare got up to in the bedroom? Well, whether you do or not, you’ll find out - along with many other things - in this episode devoted to Maggie O’Farrell’s superb novel Hamnet (spoiler alert: it involves a shed, a kestrel and shelves of bouncing apples, rather than an actual bedroom). 

Hamnet was published to critical acclaim in 2020. It brings Shakespeare’s wife - Anne Hathaway (called Agnes in this telling) - out of the shadows, recounting her relationship with a Latin tutor who has an urge to write, the fraught birth of their children, the death of their son Hamnet, the impact this tragedy has on their marriage and, finally, how all this informed the creation of said Latin Tutor’s masterpiece. A play titled - you guessed it - Hamlet. 

Most daringly of all, O’Farrell gives Anne/Agnes supernatural powers and suggests that Shakespeare’s meanness in leaving her only his second best bed in his will was in fact an affectionate reminder of the sexy time they had together in said bed. 

Sophie and Jonty talk about the long road that brought O’Farrell to this story; the difficulty of bringing historical characters to life; the unique light that O’Farrell’s novel casts on the creation of a literary landmark; and finally ask:does this book about the making of a classic have the potential to become one? 

Jonty also confronts Sophie about the sex scenes in her 2007 novel Scandal of the Season, implying a certain gratuitousness, but Sophie ably defends herself on purely intellectual grounds.

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Further reading: 

Maggie O’Farrell, Hamnet (Tinder Press, 2020) 

Maggie O’Farrell, I Am, I Am, I Am: Seventeen Brushes With Death (Tinder Press, 2018) 

James Shapiro, A Year in the Life of William Shakespeare: 1599 (Harper Collins, 2005)

Stephen Greenblatt, Will In The World (WW Norton, 2004)

Sophie Gee, Scandal of the Season (Chatto & Windus, 2007)

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Hamlet is jammed with famous quotes like “to be or not to be,” “something is rotten in the state of Denmark,” “time is out of joint,” “the play’s the thing,” “get thee to a nunnery,” and “the rest is silence.” But who really knows what happens in the world’s most famous play? And why is it so damn long? Jonty confides the intense boredom induced by the unabridged 5.5 hour Kenneth Branagh marathon Hamlet during the 90s.

Jonty and Sophie are in heated agreement that Hamlet is not a nice guy but a bit of an over privileged brat. The Ghost, not Hamlet, gets SLOB’s prize this week for MVP. not to mention lovely Ophelia, the play’s most moving and sympathetic character.  

There many unanswered questions in Hamlet and Sophie argues that “to be or not to be?” isn’t even in the Top 10. And also, why do actors speak so slowly when delivering the “to be or not to be” speech? Jonty - at last - concedes that the Protestant Reformation is at the heart of this text! Plus we get a quick primer on political and religious life under Queen Elizabeth I, who was in crisis with a threatened rebellion from the Earl of Essex. The queen wasn’t the only one in a career slump in the late 1590s - Shakespeare was having problems with his work-life balance  too. 

Why — and how — did he and his business partners dismantle their theater and carry it across the Thames one frosty December night in 1598? Hear why Shakespeare played the Ghost in the first performances of Hamlet, and how this very adult play is also about the death of Shakespeare’s 11 year old son named Hamnet, a few years earlier. 

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Further Reading:

William Shakespeare, Hamlet, Folger Shakespeare Library edition. https://www.folger.edu/explore/shakespeares-works/hamlet/read/

James Shapiro, A Year in the Life of William Shakespeare: 1599 (Harper Collins, 2005)

Stephen Greenblatt, Hamlet in Purgatory (Princeton UP, 2014)

Rhodri Lewis, Hamlet and the Vision of Darkness (Princeton UP, 2017)

T. S. Eliot, “Hamlet  and His Problems.” In The Sacred Wood (Dover Publications, reprint edition 1997).

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“The course of true love never did run smooth.” 

It certainly did not in Shakespeare’s psychedelic fantasy about cross-dressing, polyamory, speaking truth to power and tik-tok – centuries before the internet. A Midsummer Night’s Dream is endlessly adapted and readapted. At its heart, it’s a play about the madness and thrill of attraction and love; about how strange it is when one human spots another human to spend their life with. 

In this episode there are green fairies who fight and turn flowers into love-potions. Is falling in love always this random and inexplicable? But the really big question is: are the faeries Incredible Hulk Green, or Fungus the Bogeyman Green? Help us decide. 

Will you side with Jonty that the “Rude Mechanicals” are hilarious and the young lovers are a tedious bore – or do you agree with Sophie that Bottom, Snug and Flute are unfunny and that Hermia and Helena are internet influencers before their time? A queen falls in love with a donkey, and the Duke of Athens compares lovers, poets and madmen. 

Join the SLOB team in a moonlit Athenian wood for love and laughs, and a moment of nostalgia for Robert Sean Leonard as Puck in the 1980s hit film Dead Poets’ Society. 

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Further Reading:

William Shakespeare, A Midsummer Night’s Dream, “The New Cambridge Shakespeare.” (2003).

Stephen Greenblatt, Will in the World, (Norton, 2004).

Jonathan Bate, How the Classics Made Shakespeare, Princeton University Press, 2019.

Leonard Barkan, Reading Shakespeare, Reading Me, (Fordham UP, 2024)

Bart van Es, “Captive children: John Lyly, A Midsummer Night's Dream, and child impressment on the early modern stage,” Renaissance Studies, 33;2, 2019.

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Go Tell It On The Mountain is one of the great incendiary debuts of the 20th Century. Published in 1953, James Baldwin’s autobiographical novel follows a fictionalised avatar of his younger self as he navigates his way through an ordinary day in 1930s Harlem. Baldwin showed readers life as he knew it as a black, working-class gay teenager in a racist society. 

Baldwin disliked what he called ‘protest’ novels. His interests ranged from classic white writers like Charles Dickens and Henry James to many of the giants of Harlem Renaissance, like Countee Cullen and Richard Wright. He counted Miles Davis and Toni Morrison amongst his friends, but also Norman Mailer and ultimate playboy Hugh Hefner. To write a book about New York, he ultimately needed to leave America - first to Paris, then to a Swiss village, where he - against a backdrop of Alpine hills and the tinkling of cowbells - he brought it to a close. 

Go Tell It On the Mountain was respected on publication, but hardly sold like hotcakes. Sophie and Jonty ask why it is that Baldwin, who wrote his greatest works in the 1950s and 1960s, and died in 1987, has become only more relevant in the last decade, with  intellectuals, novelists and film-makers adapting or responding to his work. 

Content warning: discussion of violence, domestic abuse, racism; mention of rape.

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Further Reading and Watching:

James Baldwin, Go Tell It on the Mountain, (Penguin, 2002 edition, first pub. 1953)

James Baldwin, “Notes of a Native Son,” in Notes of a Native Son (Beacon Classics 2015)

David Leeming, James Baldwin: A Biography, (Skyhorse, 2015)

Rachel Cohen, A Chance Meeting: American Encounters, (New York Review of Books Classics, 2024) 

Colm Tóibín, On James Baldwin (Brandeis University Press, 2024)

Eddie Glaude, Begin Again: James Baldwin’s America and its Urgent Lessons for Our Own, (Crown, 2020)

New Yorker article about Baldwin and Richard Avedon’s collaboration Nothing Personal: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/13/richard-avedon-and-james-baldwins-joint-examination-of-american-identity

Barry Jenkins’s film adaptation of “If Beale Street Could Talk” 

Raoul Peck’s documentary “I Am Not Your Negro”

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Few novels capture a moment and place in time as The Great Gatsby. F Scott Fitzgerald’s 1925 masterpiece captures a generation determined to live and party hard in the aftermath of the First World War. There are love affairs, exotic cocktails (a ‘gin rickey’ anyone?), no less than three car crashes and, of course, the famous party scenes. It has been adapted at least eight times for film and television, yet the road from publication to becoming considered one of Great American Novels was a slow burn. Fitzgerald died believing his life a failure. 

The Great Gatsby has some of the most famous final lines in literary history. But what exactly is the ‘green light’ and can the future really be ‘orgastic’ or did Fitzgerald make a typo? Sophie and Jonty wrestle with these questions while asking how a book so specifically rooted in the 1920s has proven so timeless. In the process, Sophie shows off her detailed knowledge of the landscape between Manhattan and Long Island, and Jonty confirms Tom Buchanan’s claim that Jay Gatsby can’t be an Oxford man because ‘he wears a pink suit’. 

We also look at Fitzgerald’s life. His determination not to end up a failure like his father (a former salesman at Proctor & Gamble), his turbulent relationship with Zelda Sayre and the long road to Gatsby via a disastrous play called The Vegetable.  

Content warning: discusses alcoholism, racism, scenes of violence. And Sophie uses a swear word.

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Further reading: 

F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby, Norton Critical Edition, ed. David Alworth (2022)

Some Sort of Epic Grandeur: The Life of F Scott Fitzgerald by Matthew J Bruccoli (Open Road Media, 2022) 

Cambridge Companion to F. Scott Fitzgerald, (Cambridge UP, 2023).

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Within a year of its publication in 1960, Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mockingbird sold 2.5 million copies and has remained a much-loved classic by adults and children alike. What was it about this book that captured the public imagination at the time - and to this day? 

Harper Lee mined her own childhood in Alabama for this coming-of-age story of personal and social justice against a backdrop of Depression-era America. She worked and reworked several earlier drafts before achieving the crystal precision of what would prove her masterpiece. Harper imagined the book would be just the first in an illustrious career; that she would fulfil her dream of becoming, in her own words, ‘the Jane Austen of South Alabama’. But she never wrote another novel. 

Sophie and Jonty argue that the success of To Kill A Mockingbird rested on the way it optimistically presented a path of reconciliation through what was, at the time, a subject of deep national division - segregation and civil rights. Harper’s Mockingbird, like Martin Luther King’s famous dream, contained a message of hope. But was it a realistic one? 

At the very end of her life, and in controversial circumstances, an earlier draft of what became To Kill A Mockingbird was published. Titled Go Set A Watchman, this book presented a more pessimistic view of American society. It’s less convincing as a work of art, but - in many ways - a more truthful one. 

Content warning: discusses gun violence, racism, domestic and sexual violence.

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Further Reading:

Harper Lee, To Kill A Mockingbird, (Harper, 2010)

Harper Lee, Go Set a Watchman, (Harper, 2015)

Charles J Shields, I Am Scout (Square Fish, 2008) 

The Cambridge Companion to the Literature of the American South, ed. Sharon Monteith, (Cambridge UP, 2022)

Neal Dolan, “The Class Dynamics of Antiracism in Go Set a Watchman.” (Twentieth Century Literature, [s. l.], v. 69, n. 2, p. 121–146, 2023)

W.D. Kim,  "Animal Imagery in Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mockingbird," (ANQ: A Quarterly Journal of Short Articles, Notes, and Reviews, [s. l.], v. 35, n. 2, p. 161–166, 2022)

 J. C. Ford, “Birds of a Feather: Gay Uncle Jack and Queer Cousin Francis in To Kill a Mockingbird,” (ANQ: A Quarterly Journal of Short Articles, Notes, and Reviews, [s. l.], v. 36, n. 3, p. 418–433, 2023).

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Hello Thomas Cromwell. And Hello Lev Grossman, best-selling author of The Magicians trilogy, the Silver Arrow children’s books, and now The Bright Sword, who joins Sophie and Jonty as THEIR FIRST EVER GUEST to talk about Hilary Mantel’s Wolf Hall.
Published in 2009 to immediate acclaim, Wolf Hall reinvented historical fiction and changed the way we see Henry VIII and the Tudor court of 16th Century England. Mantel’s idea was to tell the story of Henry VIII and his disastrous marriages through the eyes of his right-hand man Thomas Cromwell. Traditionally thought of as mysterious and Machievallian, Cromwell, in Mantel’s hands, becomes a heroic survivor, navigating his way through a treacherous world.
Behind this irresistible story lies Mantel’s own unique philosophy of history, her belief in ghosts and her experience of chronic pain (through endemetriosis). Lev Grossman shares his insights as an author profoundly influenced by Mantel’s use of character, dialogue and perspective; an author who is also, in his view, a master of ‘the title-drop’. 
Personal revelations abound too. In a shock reveal, Sophie discloses that she is married to Lev, while Jonty manages to trace his personal ancestry back to Thomas Cromwell’s brutal father Walter - raising the alarming possibility of a Putney-style rampage through the SLOB studio.

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Further Reading:

• Hilary Mantel, Wolf Hall (Fourth Estate, 2009)
• Hilary Mantel, A Place of Greater Safety (Harper Perennial, 2009)
• Hilary Mantel, Giving Up the Ghost (Harper Perennial, 2009) 

Listen: 

• The Reith Lectures, Hilary Mantel (BBC) 

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Twenty-first century vampires are the brooding, sparkly anti-heroes of Twilight and Ann Rice— all pointy teeth and hair-product. But they used to be much weirder, scarier and sexier than that. Bram Stoker’s world-changing 1897 novel Dracula is one of the most erotic and thrilling novels in English literature—despite having the most boring opening pages—and it’s crammed with secrets, including the fact that Dracula had a long white mustache, and he made the beds and did the cooking at his at his ultra-scary castle in Transylvania. Stoker himself was a brilliant dancer, a champion fast-walker and a theatrical impresario who was married to—wait for it—Oscar Wilde’s ex-girlfriend.

So whatever you’re imagining, we promise you, you’re not ready for this. Join Jonty and Sophie as they dig up the story behind the story of Dracula, which includes Jack the Ripper, Wilde’s trials for homosexuality, Kodak cameras, immigration, industrialization, decapitation, Macbeth, gobs of sex, King James’s Demonologie and a serious case of Victorian-era trainspotting.

Oh, and vampires caused World War I. You’ve been warned!

Content warning: some references to emotional and physical abuse, mental illness and suicide.

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Further Reading:

• Bram Stoker, Dracula, Penguin Classics, (2011)
• David J. Skal, Something in the Blood: The Untold Story of Bram Stoker, the Man Who Wrote Dracula (Liveright, 2016)
• Elizabeth Miller & Dacre Stoker, The Lost Journal of Bram Stoker: The Dublin Years (Hellbound Books 2024)
• Philip Ball, The Modern Myths, Adventures in the Machinery of the Popular Imagination (Chicago UP 2021).
• Luckhurst R, ed. The Cambridge Companion to Dracula. Cambridge University Press; 2017.

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Frankenstein is English literature’s great myth about Artificial Intelligence, 200 years before A.I. existed.
But the world’s most famous monster is nothing like you imagine. Who knew that he chops wood and reads Milton’s Paradise Lost? And who remembers if Frankenstein is the name of the monster, or the mad inventor who made him? Sophie and Jonty explain how and why a brilliant scientist's breakthrough in creating artificial life ends in high drama and rare seabird-sightings in the Arctic circle.
Frankenstein’s own creator, the young Mary Shelley, was English literature’s first nepo-baby. She was the daughter of two celebrity intellectuals, the feminist Mary Wollstonecraft and the radical William Godwin. At age 8, hiding behind the sofa in her parents' living room, Mary heard Samuel Taylor Coleridge read aloud The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. She and her husband Percy Bysshe Shelley would become the Brad and Angelina of Regency England, entangled with Lord Byron's circle. Come for the insightful literary analysis – stay for the sex scandals and family dramas.

Content warning: references to emotional and physical violence, incest, mental illness and suicide.

Further Reading:

• Mary Shelley, Frankenstein, Penguin Classics, 2018.
• Daisy Hay, Young Romantics: The Tangled Lives of English Poetry's Greatest Generation (Farrah, Strauss and Giroux, 2010).
• Charlotte Gordon, Romantic Outlaws: The Extraordinary Lives of Mary Wollstonecraft & Mary Shelley (Random House, 2015)
• The Cambridge Companion to Frankenstein, ed. Andrew Smith, (Cambridge UP, 2016)

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