Secret Sonics

In this second part of our interview with Nick Nagurka, we dive deeper into the human side of Nick’s approach to live band recording. Nick shares insights on creating a comfortable environment for artists, managing the pressure of performance, and maintaining the delicate balance between technical excellence and capturing raw, authentic moments. From fostering trust to handling unexpected challenges, this episode offers a candid look at the interpersonal dynamics that shape the recording process.

Topics we discuss:

• Creating a comfortable and trusting environment for artists
• Balancing the casual vibe of a "retreat" with the focus needed for recording
• Managing the pressure of performance, especially with video recording
• The importance of flexibility and taking chances in the recording process
• Techniques for transitioning from rehearsal mode to performance mode
• The value of capturing continuous takes and handling unexpected moments
• Balancing old-school recording techniques with modern post-production tools

To learn more about Nick - https://www.nicknagurkamusic.com/

Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


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Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/
Nick - https://www.instagram.com/thenick

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This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

Welcome to the first interview episode of Secret Sonics 2.0! We're kicking off our revamped format with a bang, pulling back the curtain on the art and science of live band recording with engineer extraordinaire Nick Nagurka.

Known for his work with Theo Katzman and Vulfpeck, Nick brings a fresh perspective to the age-old challenge of capturing lightning in a bottle.

Nick's approach turns conventional wisdom on its head, embracing the chaos of bleed and prioritizing the vibe over technical perfection. He shares his unique methods for achieving that elusive "band in a room" sound, from unconventional mic placements to the strategic use of cutting-edge technology.

This episode is a masterclass in balancing old-school techniques with modern tools, demonstrating how to capture the raw energy of a live performance while maintaining the polish expected in professional recordings. Whether you're a bedroom producer or a seasoned studio vet, Nick's insights will challenge your assumptions and inspire you to push the boundaries of your craft.


Topics we discuss:

• Techniques for recording drums in a live setting
• ⁠Microphone choices and placement strategies
• Balancing musician comfort with technical requirements
• ⁠The use of modern tools like iZotope RX in conjunction with traditional recording techniques
• ⁠The importance of committing to sounds during tracking

To learn more about Nick - https://www.nicknagurkamusic.com/

Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


Connect with us:

Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/
Nick - https://www.instagram.com/thenick

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This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

Ben and Carl discuss key strategies for creating a sustainable and future-proof music production business. They explore topics like consistent lead generation, maintaining client relationships, adapting to industry trends, and differentiating yourself in a crowded market.


Topics we discuss:

• The power of consistent lead generation, even during busy periods
• How to nurture client relationships through simple, genuine check-ins
• Strategies for staying informed on industry trends without getting overwhelmed
• Why differentiating yourself is crucial in today's global market
• The importance of investing in relationships over gear

Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


Connect with us:

Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

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This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

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Ben and Carl discuss their professional evolution since their first podcast encounter four years ago. They explore significant changes in equipment, mindset, and industry practices that have shaped their careers in music production and mixing.

Topics we discuss:

• How better equipment revealed Ben's bad mixing habits
• Carl's journey in self-confidence and adaptability
• Adapting to post-COVID industry changes
• Crafting a sustainable career in music production
• The importance of personal connection with clients
• Learning to decline projects that aren't a good fit

Connect with us:

Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

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Learn more:

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Listen to our Ultimate Mix Reference Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3KNQgSPwNoRaNadSYvc65E?si=d2876096fe7141ae



This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

Have a listen to the very first episode of Secret Sonics featuring Carl Bahner! Back in August 2020, during the height of the pandemic, Ben and Carl formed a friendship. We thought it would be fun to revisit this episode and explore Carl's origin story while we take a break to prepare for bringing new guests onto the show. Enjoy!

Original Show Notes - https://www.benwallick.com/podcast-episodes/2020/8/9/secret-sonics-058-carl-bahner

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Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

Thanks to our sponsors!

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Learn more:

https://www.benwallick.com/
https://www.carlbahner.com/

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Listen to our Ultimate Mix Reference Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3KNQgSPwNoRaNadSYvc65E?si=d2876096fe7141ae

In this episode, Carl shares his recent experience creating a backing track for a high-stakes live event. Discover how mixing for a live venue requires a complete shift in priorities and techniques compared to crafting tracks for streaming platforms. From exaggerating dynamics to strategically reinforcing rhythmic elements, you'll learn about how to empower performers and electrify live audiences. Get ready to expand your mixing toolkit and approach your next project with a whole new perspective!


Topics we discuss:

• Why standard mixing techniques can fall flat in a live arena
• The counterintuitive approach to dynamics that makes backing tracks pop in a huge venue
• How to strategically reinforce rhythmic elements to keep performers locked in, even in chaotic live conditions
• The secret-sauce of great gang vocals
• Why clear communication about mix decisions is crucial when working with non-audio professionals

Connect with us:

Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

Thanks to our sponsors!

Progressions with Travis Ference - https://www.progressionspodcast.com/listen

Learn more:

https://www.benwallick.com/
https://www.carlbahner.com/

370 Social Media Ideas for Studio Pros - https://branding.carlbahner.com/free-social-media-prompts


Listen to our Ultimate Mix Reference Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3KNQgSPwNoRaNadSYvc65E?si=d2876096fe7141ae



This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

In this episode, Ben and Carl discuss how their respective backgrounds as a bassist and a drummer shape their approach to music production and mixing. They delve into the influence of their live performance experiences and traditional training on their production techniques, emphasizing intentionality and minimalism. 

Topics we discuss:

• Intentionality and minimalism
• Pacing and instrumentation
• Simplicity in arrangements - adding character, not clutter 
• The physicality of low end in mixing

Connect with us:

Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

Thanks to our sponsors!

Progressions with Travis Ference - https://www.progressionspodcast.com/listen

Learn more:

https://www.benwallick.com/
https://www.carlbahner.com/

370 Social Media Ideas for Studio Pros - https://branding.carlbahner.com/free-social-media-prompts


Listen to our Ultimate Mix Reference Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3KNQgSPwNoRaNadSYvc65E?si=d2876096fe7141ae



This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

In this episode, Ben and Carl discuss the transition from being live performers to working in the studio. They share personal anecdotes and insights into the skills and experiences that have informed their studio work, such as checking egos, understanding tempo, effective communication, conflict resolution, and the importance of arrangement. They also highlight the unique nuances of live versus studio performances and how knowing many songs can expand creative possibilities.



Topics we discuss:

• Serving the song and checking the ego at the door
• The importance of tempo 
• Interpersonal skills and conflict resolution
• Live arrangements and studio adaptations
• Learning songs efficiently

Connect with us:

Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

Thanks to our sponsors!

Progressions with Travis Ference - https://www.progressionspodcast.com/listen

Learn more:

https://www.benwallick.com/
https://www.carlbahner.com/

370 Social Media Ideas for Studio Pros - https://branding.carlbahner.com/free-social-media-prompts


Listen to our Ultimate Mix Reference Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3KNQgSPwNoRaNadSYvc65E?si=d2876096fe7141ae



This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

Join Ben and Carl for a peek behind the podcast curtain as they reflect on the journey of Secret Sonics and explore exciting new directions for the show. In this candid conversation, they share their vision for weaving in fresh perspectives through guest interviews while preserving the magic of their duo dynamic. Discover the thought process behind the show's evolution and learn how you, the listener, can help shape the future of Secret Sonics. Get ready for an insider's look at building a podcast that educates, entertains, and empowers the music community.

Connect with us:

Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

Thanks to our sponsors!

Progressions with Travis Ference - https://www.progressionspodcast.com/listen

Learn more:

https://www.benwallick.com/
https://www.carlbahner.com/

370 Social Media Ideas for Studio Pros - https://branding.carlbahner.com/free-social-media-prompts


Listen to our Ultimate Mix Reference Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3KNQgSPwNoRaNadSYvc65E?si=d2876096fe7141ae



This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/