Visions of supernatural beings or places are relatively common in the bible and early Christian writings - from wheels within wheels, to visions of the risen Jesus, to trips to the afterlife, writers record a whole array of fascinating experiences. Today, Dr. Bart Ehrman joins me to talk about one of the less flamboyant, but nonetheless intriguing visions - Paul's trip to the "third heaven". We'll get into the role of visions in ancient communities, what exactly a "third heaven" is, and why Paul chose to write about it.