Selema Masekela is a legend in the board sports community. When there were very few Black voices in skate, snow, and surf, he was there–hosting shows for Vice, ESPN, ABC and more. Now that the action sports world is growing more inclusive, Selema is a central figure in the conversation, pushing the industries he loves while also launching his own label, Mami Wata, the nation’s first Afrocentric surf brand.

In this deep-dive convo with Kweli and Jasmin, Selema shares memories of his world renowned father, jazz impresario Hugh Masekela, gets raw about how race is handled on the snow and in the surf, and talks about his new company. He also discusses his music, his recent viral tweet about vigilante justice, and so much more. This is a much needed interview with an icon in action sports and one of the best TV sportscasters in the game.