In this in-depth discussion, Tara and Lee unpack the leaked conversation suggesting Donald Trump proposed selling weapons to Ukraine rather than simply giving them away—an approach they argue would have saved U.S. taxpayers billions. They debate the wisdom of targeting Russian cities, warn against deeper entanglement in the conflict, and criticize Biden’s failure to enforce secondary sanctions on nations like India and China that secretly buy Russian oil. Highlighting the BRICS nations’ moves to undermine the dollar, they call for tough tariffs to curb adversaries without risking a direct military clash. The hosts argue America should profit from arms sales while avoiding boots on the ground—and remind listeners that behind the scenes, the U.S. has been running the war effort from Europe all along.