Art Bell speaks with Dr. Jon Klimo, author of the definitive study on channeling and co-author of Suicide: What Really Happens in the Afterlife, about what 120 years of channeled material reveals regarding the fate of those who take their own lives. Dr. Klimo explains that his scholarly research examined hundreds of sources claiming to convey messages from people who died by suicide, distilling common themes about the afterlife consequences they describe.

The discussion addresses whether consciousness survives physical death, with Dr. Klimo drawing on his four years of privately funded EVP research and study of mediumship. He describes the consistent message that suicide does not result in eternal punishment, but rather a self-directed life review where individuals must confront the repercussions of cutting short their soul growth. Art shares his own deeply personal experience of nearly taking his life after losing his wife Ramona.

Dr. Klimo also addresses the fate of suicide bombers, explaining that seances were conducted specifically to contact them since Islamic tradition lacks a mediumistic framework. He discusses karma, reincarnation, and the surprising scarcity of afterlife references to returning for another lifetime, while maintaining that the universe operates as a learning system designed for spiritual evolution.