While Ellie Hiller was raised in a beautiful home of faith and memorized Scripture, she wondered if her faith should be so much in her head. Something was missing.

Until God converted her heart.

When Ellie's husband became Catholic and they lost their shared non-denominational practice, Ellie struggled. She armored herself in defensiveness and even listened to Matt Fradd's podcast "Pints with Aquinas," just so she could gain intellectual ammunition to defend her non-denominational viewpoints.

Only God changed her. Ellie was touched by Saint Pope John Paul II's Theology of the Body, the Sacraments and physicality of the Catholic faith.

Listen to this joy-filled podcast and allow God to help you move out of your head and into your heart, too.