We’re back with another Sidebar conversation and since we are closing out another year and looking ahead to 2025 we return to a topic that always gets us talking (debating? disagreeing?)...GOALS. Listen to hear Kate discuss her hesitant feelings about goal setting, but then how she gets led down the dark path by goals-fanatic Carinn by the end!

We’re back with another Sidebar conversation and since we are closing out another year and looking ahead to 2025 we return to a topic that always gets us talking (debating? disagreeing?)...GOALS. Listen to hear Kate discuss her hesitant feelings about goal setting, but then how she gets led down the dark path by goals-fanatic Carinn by the end!

We’re back with another Sidebar conversation and since we are closing out another year and looking ahead to 2025 we return to a topic that always gets us talking (debating? disagreeing?)...GOALS. Listen to hear Kate discuss her hesitant feelings about goal setting, but then how she gets led down the dark path by goals-fanatic Carinn by the end!

Side Bar on Goals, in which Kate allows herself to be lead down the dark path of goal setting by goals-fanatic Carinn

In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you squirm. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process of becoming our complicated selves. * Play arm-chair therapist in What’s Your Damage, Heather? An homage to the iconic line in Winona Ryder’s Heathers, we discuss how these characters got to be the way they are. * “What She Said” - the segment where we scour every essay and interview with the women behind the scenes and share some of our favorite first person quotes. Real life is as interesting as fiction here. * Look into our crystal ball and ponder where these characters are six months later and five years later. Typically, Kate gets very real and Carinn gets buck wild. * Provide a takeaway, aka that part in the podcast where we try to sound deep. We leave you with some parting wisdom, challenge each other with thought-provoking questions inspired by the work, and urge you to “stay complicated.”

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