This week, Steve performs some more updates of the code base using Aider, while some skeuomorphic UI updates from Kotaro have us excited, and Aaron is a little tired after gathering real-world data by running a marathon at an impressive pace.

## Show Notes

Introductions

Bento Fit: The Story So Far

Bento Fit: Refactoring the data model with Aider

Tangent: Xcode + Claude

Bento Fit: Skeuomorphic UI update

Next Steps

- Two column bento cards

- Persistence of bento card settings

- Remaining HealthKit metrics

Wrap-Up: http://phillycocoa.org

Side Project Shoutout: https://bleep.is

## Chapters

00:00 Introductions

07:10 Bento Fit: The Story So Far

12:29 Bento Fit: Refactoring the data model with Aider

24:27 Tangent: Xcode + Claude Rumor

27:26 Bento Fit: Refactoring the data model with Aider (cont.)

28:45 Bento Fit: Skeuomorphic UI update

50:16 Wrap-Up

50:35 Side Project Shoutout: Bleep.is

52:31 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

The Trio is back together with Bento Fit updates and more fun with "AI!" First up, Aaron is back from his trip to Jamaica and explains how you bring a bike on an airplane. Meanwhile, Kotaro has been sketching up a storm with some cool UI designs that you can't see because this is audio! Then, Steve continues down the path towards madness as he tries yet another "AI" tool combo this week with Aider/OpenRouter/Google Gemini 2.5 Flash. The live coding on the pod goes about as well as previous attempts.

## Show Notes

- Introductions & Aaron’s Jamaica trip

- Vibe Coding Follow-up

- Bento Fit: The Story So Far

- Bento Fit Update

- UI concept is coming along

- Experimenting with Aider/OpenRouter/Gemini 2.5 Flash

- https://aider.chat

- https://openrouter.ai

- Next Time

- UI implementation

- Charts

- Domain model as we go along

- More “Fun with AI”

- Wrap-up

- http://phillycocoa.org

- Side Project Shout Out

- https://bleep.is

## Chapters

00:00 Introductions & Aaron's Jamaica Trip

04:38 Vibe Coding Follow-up

06:47 Bento Fit: The Story So Far

09:39 Bento Fit Data Modeling Update

21:14 Bento Fit UI Update

30:20 Experimenting with Aider/OpenRouter/Gemini 2.5 Flash

37:58 Aider Live Demo Fail

51:14 Next Time

52:00 Wrap-up

52:20 Side Project Shout Out: Bleep.is

53:54 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

Aaron is enjoying a much deserved vacation, but Kotaro and Steve are still here with Bento Fit updates and Kotaro's experience "vibe coding" with Cursor.

## Show Notes

- Bento Fit Update

- Kotaro UI updates

- We may be doing HealthKit wrong

- Next

- UI flow

- HealthKit performance

- Kotaro’s Vibe Coding Experience

- Wrap-Up

- http://phillycocoa.org

- Side Project Shout Out

- https://getclipdish.com

## Chapters

00:00 Introductions

01:28 Bento Fit: The Story So Far

04:21 Bento Fit: Updates & Discussion

23:27 Bento Fit: Next Time

23:50 Kotaro Goes Full Vibe

36:30 Trade-offs in Using "AI" Tools

38:27 The Future of Development with "AI"

40:59 Kotaro Tries to Vibe Code Bento Fit

42:35 Vibe Coding Lessons Learned

44:53 Final Thoughts on Vibe Coding

46:08 Wrap-Up

46:28 Side Project Shout Out: Clip Dish App

48:38 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

In this extra long episode, we review progress made in domain modeling, Swift Charts, and a Tron-esque UI! Plus, Steve discusses his experiences using the ChatGPT macOS app and Cursor with Xcode before we try to do some "vibe coding" ourselves to add a small UI feature. There are a lot of quotable moments in this episode. It's a fun one!

## Show Notes

- BentoFit: The Road So Far…

- Kotaro: UI Updates including Dark Mode!

- Aaron: Swift Chart!

- Steve: More metrics, refactored HealthKit, domain modeling begun!

- How to Use Cursor and Xcode Together

- Vibe Coding Demo with Cursor and Xcode

- Next Time

- Use up Cursor tokens and get more domain modeling done and caching of HealthKit data

- Add/remove bento items in the UI

- Bento zoom transition to detail screen

- Basic settings we can configure

- More charts, maybe even configurable!

- Wrap-Up

- http://phillycocoa.org

- Side Project Shout Out

- https://stylebookapp.com

## Chapters

00:00:00 Introductions

00:02:08 BentoFit: The Road So Far...

00:10:28 Kotaro Fixed Dark Mode!

00:18:25 Aaron Made a Chart!

00:22:00 Steve Started Domain Modeling!

00:24:11 Using ChatGPT macOS App with Xcode

00:26:10 Using Cursor with Xcode

00:35:32 Reviewing the Cursor Chat Log

00:40:50 The Trio Vibe Code with Cursor and Xcode

00:50:06 How to Avoid Shooting Yourself in the Foot

00:58:16 Next Time

01:07:26 Wrap-Up

01:07:44 Side Project Shout Out: Stylebook App

01:11:48 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

Sometimes life gets in the way of a side project. That's what happened to us this sprint and so progress on Bento Fit has been extra slow. But, this is a good opportunity to discuss strategies for getting back on track when life throws you a detour on your developer journey.

## Show Notes

- Bento Fit Update

- Steve is working on HealthKit metrics and domain modeling, but progress is slow.

- Rolling with the Punches

- Kotaro has been busy with work.

- Aaron helps run Philly Bike Expo!

- Goals for Next Time: MVP!

- UI updates to ease dogfooding

- HealthKit metrics / domain modeling

- Swift Charts implementation for visualizing trends

- Wrap-Up & Side Project Shout Out

- https://stylebookapp.com

## Chapters

00:00 Introductions

01:27 Bento Fit: The Story So Far

19:00 Bento Fit: UI Transitions

20:25 Rolling with the Punches

24:44 Tangent: The Beauty of 90s Video Game Manuals

25:55 Rolling with the Punches (cont.)

34:05 Bento Fit: Reviewing GitHub Issues

42:29 Wrap-Up

42:51 Side Project Shout Out: Stylebook App

48:39 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

We continue to make slow progress developing our HealthKit dashboard app, codenamed "Bento Fit." In this episode, our update includes more HealthKit metrics discussion, Xcode Cloud configurations, a discussion on Git workflows, implementing basic logging, using Grok to write bad HealthKit code, and Kotaro's "Full Dieter Rams" UI designs. Plus, it looks like we need a persistence strategy, maybe SwiftData, maybe something else?

## Show Notes

- Bento Fit Update

- How to manage your time on a side project

- Metrics discussion from Side Project Saturday

- Xcode Cloud is setup

- Steve learned Swift Testing

- Git workflows

- HealthKit metric updates

- Using LLMs for HealthKit code generation

- Kotaro’s UI update & discussion

- Prototype Driven Development

- Next Time

- Add/Remove bento boxes dynamically

- More HealthKit metrics to implement

- Data model / caching strategy?

- Learn Swift Charts?

- Wrap-Up

- http://phillycocoa.org

- Not a Sponsor

- https://miovino.app

## Chapters

00:00 Introductions & The Story So Far

04:55 Bento Fit Update: Setting Expectations

06:12 Bento Fit Update: SPS Metrics Discussion

09:30 Bento Fit Update: Xcode Cloud & Git Workflow

14:52 Bento Fit Update: Logging

17:20 Bento Fit Update: Implementing HealthKit Metrics

18:27 Bento Fit Update: Using Grok to Generate HealthKit Code

21:53 Bento Fit Update: Kotaro's UI Update & Discussion

27:28 HealthKit Data Persistence Strategy

33:06 Prototype Driven Development

35:58 Next Sprint

51:10 Wrap-Up

53:07 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

We have made progress on our new fitness app, currently codenamed, "Bento Fit." This week we provide an update about the UI, using local Swift Packages for modularization of the codebase, creating custom HealthKit metrics, thoughts on data persistence and syncing, and next steps. Plus, tangents about running local LLMs, the fortunes of COBOL programmers, and some really bad monetization ideas. If you want to get into the headspace of some developers working on a side project, this was basically our project meeting recorded, so enjoy, tangents and all!

## Show Notes

- Bento Fit Progress Report

- https://9to5mac.com/2025/02/08/indie-app-spotlight-bentocraft/

- Temp App Icon

- Very basic layout for home view

- Settings view placeholder

- Add view placeholder

- HealthKit permissions

- WatchKit integration

- SPM refactor

- https://www.swiftystack.com

- Aaron running miles by week adventure

- Stats we want to focus on

- Heart metrics

- Running miles per week

- Caffeine / nutrients consumed

- Impromptu monetization discussion

- Customized metrics for IAP

- How to save preference data

- Shared keychain items

- Swift Data / CloudKit

- NSUbiquitousKeyValueStore

- Tangents on Cobol, PS5, etc.

- Next Steps

- Explore app’s personality using Sketch

- Add HealthKit metrics

- Add tests

- Xcode Cloud setup

- Add ability to add/remove cards from UI

- Wrap-Up

- http://phillycocoa.org

- Not a Sponsor: https://miovino.app

## Chapters

00:00 Introductions

01:09 Catch-up on Bento Fit History

07:12 Bento Fit Progress Update

09:03 Bento Fit Progress: Local Swift Package Refactor

14:22 Bento Fit Progress: Custom HealthKit Metric

17:26 Exploring HealthKit Metrics

24:03 Tangent: Bad Monetization Ideas

26:07 Tangent: Studio Display is Still Expensive!

27:24 Tangent: More Realistic Monetization Strategies

28:50 Dogfooding the Prototype

31:04 Data Persistence and Syncing Strategies

39:33 Tangent: Local LLMs

44:48 Tangent: The Fortunes of COBOL Developers

47:40 Bento Fit Next Steps

01:00:53 Wrap-Up: http://phillycocoa.org

01:01:14 Not a Sponsor: https://miovino.app

01:03:56 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

The Trio begin a new fitness app project to surface HealthKit data. Learn about some of the discarded app ideas, then listen in on a live project kickoff planning session along with some asides about learning to be consistent, the challenges of HealthKit, what a "bento box" UI means, and more!

## Chapters

00:00 Intro Music

00:08 Introductions

01:34 Fitness App Ideas

08:41 "Sleep, Walk, Run" HealthKit Dashboard Idea

11:26 Designing the User Interface and Widgets

14:12 Features Discussion & Challenges

23:43 Surfacing HealthKit Data in Widgets

25:09 Designing a Bento Box UI

25:57 Project Goals and Learning Opportunities

27:10 Consistency and Progress in Side Projects

28:58 Live Project Planning Session

37:48 Stretch Goals

39:48 Project Planning Wrap-Up

45:25 Wrap-Up & Jokes

46:18 Not a Sponsor: MioVino.app

47:22 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

The Trio is back after an extended winter break to prognosticate about the future of Apple development going into 2025. We discuss our hopes and dreams for the future of Apple Intelligence, Vision OS, and local LLM models on Apple Silicon. We also return to the topic of the “Universal UI” before discussing some personal projects, learning backend development, and the idea of creating a dumb, but simple, fitness app of some sort.

## Chapters

00:00 Introductions

01:15 Apple Development & Apple Intelligence in 2025

09:37 Exploring Voice Command Workflows and User Experience

15:09 ChatGPT Object Detection and Vision OS

17:17 Vision Pro and 3D Development Challenges

21:58 The Future of AI and Local Model Development

27:35 Exploring Cost-Effective Backend Solutions

32:21 Small App Development and Personal Projects

38:44 Fitness App Goals and Challenges

42:31 Game Development Aspirations

46:59 Wrap-Up

47:59 Tag

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.

The Trio is going on Winter Break, but before we do, one final pod to end the year! In this season finale episode, we look back on some of the hardware, software, and developer trends of 2024 before looking forward to the possibilities to come in the new year. Have a happy holiday season! The Trio will return in 2025.

## Topics Discussed

- Favorite Apple Stuff of the Year

- iPhone 16 Pro Max (Kotaro)

- iPad mini refresh (Steve)

- Vision Pro (Aaron)

- Vision Pro: Flop or the Future?

- https://podcast.phillycocoa.org/episodes/75-visionos-epiphanies

- Favorite Apps of 2024-ish

- Pixquare

- https://www.pixquare.art

- OmniFocus 4

- https://www.omnigroup.com/omnifocus/

- “AI” Hype Cycle / Apple Intelligence

- Looking Forward to 2025

- More Indie Vibes (Kotaro)

- Apple Intelligence / Siri Integration (Steve)

- iPhone 17 (Aaron)

- Wrap-Up

- http://phillycocoa.org

- One More Thing…

- https://happyscale.com/

Intro music: "When I Hit the Floor", © 2021 Lorne Behrman. Used with permission of the artist.