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  • Ep. 45: Hyperpop w/ E

    Hyperpop is a music genre that is noted for its hyperfeminine, artificial, and childlike sound. The term “hyperpop” came into popular use after Spotify staff created a hyperpop playlist in 2019. The music the term described emerged much earlier however, with the earliest examples coming out of the renowned UK record label PC Music starting in 2013. This week Nathan is joined by his friend E to delineate the three main subgenres of hyperpop: future pop, internet pop and digicore. They discuss music by Danny L Harle, A. G. Cook, Hannah Diamond, QT, SOPHIE, Charli XCX, 100 Gecs, Alice Gas, Food House, and others. Amongst other things they discuss how how they first came to find PC Music, how digicore is NEET music, and how both Hannah Diamond and Dis Magazine used “superreal” aesthetics. 

    Links:

    Nathan and E’s Hyperpop Spotify Playlist
    GFOTY vs. LITTLE MIX - The Interview
    PC Music’s GFOTY criticised after calling Toumani & Sidiki Diabaté “Bombay Bicycle Club blacked up”
    Why did GFOTY leave PC Music? Reddit post
    THE 3 PILLARS OF HYPERPOP Reddit post
    Two Bloods Called by I’m so Popular
    https://studio.hannahdiamond.com/
    MEAT’s AW12 I LUV U campaign
    MEAT’s AW13 Believe campaign
    Ur Not a Baller by Serious Thugs
    Alis Pelleschi’s Instagram
    Hey QT - The Story of a Popstar Who Never Existed
    Baby Bubbles by QT
    Hood By Air AW 2014 runway show
    Vroom vroom vine
    Hyperpop: How Charli XCX Created a New Genre
    100 Gecs opening for Deftones video
    404 Error, Genre Not Found: The Life Cycle of Internet Scenes by Sophie Walker 
    Alice Gas, Alice Glass, 100 gecs Drama Explained Reddit post 
    Dis Magazine/ PC Music collaborations

    Artwork:

    Artwork for Pink and Blue by Hannah Diamond

    Recorded on 10/27/2024

    1 hr 30 min
  • Ep. 44: Net Art w/ Kevin Heckart

    Kevin Heckart is a Kansas City based artist who created the artwork behind seapunk’s original aesthetic. This special episode coincides with both the one year anniversary of Silent Generation and the relaunch of the seapunk clothing line Mainframe, which features many of Heckart’s designs. The first half of episode is an interview with Heckart that serves as a spiritual threequel to Silent Generation’s prior two seapunk episodes while the later half is a broader conversation about net art and net artists such as Brad Troemel, Hito Steyerl, Laturbo Avendon, and Lorna Mills. Amongst other things they discuss how Heckart has gone viral on Tiktok for hacking animatronic fish and furby toys, how Nathan and Brad Troemel did the same undergrad program, how Hito Steyerl incorporated real life biographies into Factory of the Sun, and how Skibbidy Toilet shows how thoroughly post-internet aesthetics have permeated popular culture. 

     

    Links:

    mainframehq.net

    Mainframe’s Instagram

    Kevin Heckart’s Instagram

    Kevin Heckart’s Tiktok 

    I hacked a singing fish. - Kevin Heckart

    “and yet a trace of the true self exists in the false self” meme

    HIS BRAIN? NO. HIS HEART Brad Troemel meme

    The Post-internet Culture Report by Brad Troemel

    Untitled, 2016 by Laura Owens

    Trojan Horses: Activist Art and Power by Lucy R. Lippard

    Color(ed) Theory Series by Amanda Williams 

    Rhizome’s Net Art Anthology

    My Boyfriend Came Back from the War by Olia Lialina 

    Madison Beer #NoFilter by Dis Magazine

    I was Raised on the Internet exhibition at the MCA

    Transdimensional Serpent by Jon Rafman

    The Jogging Tumblr blog

    Army of Ants by Brad Troemel

    Giant Arthropods Eating Doritos early meme

    Liquidity Inc. by Hito Steyerl screenshot

    Factory of the Sun by Hito Steyerl

    takeSomeCrime Youtube channel 

    In Defense of the Poor Image by Hito Steyerl

    In Defense of the Poor Image-esque Instagram post

    GIFS by Lorna Mills

    Repetition Mindset: Artists as Snowflakes by Brad Troemel


    Artwork:

    Provided by Kevin Heckart


    Recorded on 10/16/2024

    1 hr 34 min
  • Ep. 43: Megalopolis [TEASER]

    Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration 

     

    For this week’s episode Joseph and Nathan watched Francis Coppola’s latest (and likely final) film, Megalopolis. The film draws parallels between Ancient Rome and modern day New York City and has been met with widespread confusion. The boys discuss the film in the first half of the episode, detailing the performance of several actors (notably Aubrey Plaza’s role as the brilliantly named Wow Platinum) and the film's various references to Ancient Rome. In the second half of the episode the boys discuss megalopolises more broadly, including ones in real life (the Northeast Megalopolis, the European Megalopolis, Japan's Taiheiyo Belt, and China’s various megalopolises) and fictional examples (the megalopolis depicted in the 1927 film Metropolis, Mega-City One in Judge Dredd, and Coruscant in Star Wars). 

     

    Links:

    Martin Scorsese Had a Cinema Epiphany ‘Too Late’ 

    Megalopolis Plot meme

    Megalopolis Movie Clip - Cesar is Mine (Wow Platinum elevator scene)

    Nymphet Alumni’s Ep. 90: The Baby Name Game with Sophie Kim

    Francis Ford Coppola Didn’t Want ‘Megalopolis’ To Be “Some Woke Hollywood Production,” Casting “Canceled” Actors from Deadline

    Tell Your Children by Alex Berensen 

    Megalopolis: The Urbanized Northeastern Seaboard of the United States by Jean Gottman

    What if the cities of Jersey City, Elizabeth, Union, Newark, Hoboken, and others became one larger city like NYC? Reddit post 

    Why is there no major city here? (Boroughitis) by Urban Jersey Guy

    The location of Gotham city

    Cars.destroyed.our.cities Hartford, Connecticut post

    Blue Java Banana Review by Weird Explorer

     

    Artwork:

    From Megalopolis' Interactive Scene Explained: What Happens In It

     

    Recorded on 10/6/2024

    6 min
  • Ep.42: Chautauqua

    What is Chautauqua? Chautauqua began in 1874 in Chautauqua, New York as a Summer camp that trained laymen to be Sunday school teachers. President Ulyses S Grant visited the assembly shortly after its founding in 1875, which gave Chautauqua widespread attention and engendered a national movement; the original Chautauqua (now known in the modern day as the Chautauqua Institution) gave rise to hundreds of “daughter” Chautauquas. They offered week long or month long retreats to religiously minded vacationers who wanted to enjoy nature but also wanted to stay productive by watching edifying sermons, lectures, historical impersonations, and concerts. 

     

    On this week’s episode the boys discuss how the popular Chautauqua speech Acres of Diamonds resembles the 21st century self help book The Secret, how Chautauqua acts differed from vaudeville acts, and how a specific type of historical impersonation popular in circuit Chautauquas became synonymous with Chautauqua in the modern day. This is the third and final installment of a three part series that explores interconnected topics that deal with American culture and the outdoors. 

     

    Links:

    The Chautauqua Institution

    Chautauqua: An American Narrative (2011)

    The History of the Chautauqua Movement

    Acres of Diamonds by Russell Conwell

    Bohumir Kryl

    The height of assassins versus that of their targets Reddit post

     

    Artwork:

    Participants of a Circuit Chautauqua at Gurdon (Clark County); circa 1919.


    Recorded on 9/22/2024

    1 hr 24 min
  • Ep. 41: American Summer Camps

    In a more anecdotal direction, this week’s episode is on American Summer camps. The boys detail how camping was first developed in 1861 by Frederick Gunn before discussing their own experiences as campers and counselors at American Summer camps. Amongst other things they discuss how modern Summer camps have felt the need to hyperspecialize and give parents an ROI, how Summer camp aesthetics are 1970’s by default, how Summer camps were depicted as WASPy in Addams Family Values, and how Summer camps were depicted as somewhat utopian in the 1964 Soviet film Welcome, or No Trespassing. This is the second installment of a three part series that explores interconnected topics that deal with American culture and the outdoors. 

     

    Links:

    The Not So Happy Campers by Mimi Swartz

    About our Founder - The Frederick Gunn School

    Summer Camp Capitalism

    The History of American Jewish Summer Camps

    I can tell from her tweets that she had to go live with grandma for a lil bit meme

    Wednesday’s revolt from The Addams Family Values

    Long accused of Indigenous misappropriation, Boy Scouts ask if it’s time to change

    Welcome, or No Trespassing (1964)  

     

    Artwork:

    Photograph by Andy Sweet

     

    Recorded on 9/15/2023

    1 hr 31 min
  • Ep. 40: The Scouting Movement [TEASER]

    Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration 


    Scouting is a grassroots, child-led movement that began in the early 1900’s after children discovered Robert Baden-Powell’s written accounts of his time working as a scout for the British Army. After learning of children’s interest in his work, Baden-Powell conducted an experimental scout camp at Brownsea Island in 1907 and subsequently published his seminal work Scouting for Boys in 1908. Dozens and hundreds of official scouting organizations followed, most of which still exist today. 

     

    On this week’s episode the boys detail the history of various figures and organizations in the scouting movement. Amongst other things they discuss how arbitrary it was that the scouting movement was inspired by scouting, how scout badges and scouting uniforms create an archive of people’s childhoods, how Cub Scouts truthfully don’t create their own pinewood derby cars, and how the TTI industry and wilderness therapy are “dark scouting.” This is the first installment of a three part series that explores interconnected topics that deal with American culture and the outdoors. 

     

    Links:

    Scouting for Boys by Robert Baden-Powell

    The Zoomer Question by Isaac Wilkes 

    Remembering the Wandervogel by John Savage & Johnny Ryan

    David Hahn, The ‘Radioactive Boy Scout’ Who Tried To Build A Nuclear Reactor In His Backyard

    Joseph as a Cub Scout

    Nanook of the North (1922)

    Scouts Honor: The Secret Files of The Boy Scouts of America (2023)

     

    Artwork:

    Scouts with canoe - National Parks Gallery

    Creative Commons CC0 License

     

    Recorded on 9/9/2024

    6 min
  • Ep. 39: Rio de Janeiro

    Why was Nathan in Rio de Janeiro last week? Why was he there in 2018? What did he do there? What new fruits did he try? These are some of the important questions Joseph asked Nathan on this week’s episode. 

     

    Links:

    Brazil with a Z vs Brasil with an S - example 1

    Brazil with a Z vs Brasil with an S - example 2

     

    Artwork:

    Picture of Rio de Janeiro taken by Nathan from Pão de Açúcar

     

    Recorded on 9/2/2024

    1 hr 36 min
  • Ep. 38: Espionage & Spy-fi

    How did the spy-fi literary and cinematic genre come to be? This week Joseph and Nathan chronicle how detective fiction authors took inspiration from sensational espionage cases such as The Dreyfus Affair and The Rosenberg Trial to imagine what the front lines of The Cold War might look like. The boys cover “realistic” spy movies such as James Bond’s Dr. No, Three Days of the Condor, and The Bourne Trilogy before going into fantastical depictions of spies in Children’s media like The Spy Kids, Kim Possible, and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Amongst other things they discuss the difference between state and industrial espionage, Austria’s constitutionally mandated status of neutrality, and Edward Snowden’s modeling portfolio. 

    Links:

    Nathan’s Instagram
    Was the Rosenberg trial America’s Dreyfus Affair
    The Scarlet Pimpernel by Baroness Orczy
    The Thirty-Nine Steps by Charles Buchan
    Ep. 53: Bond Girl Summer by Nymphet Alumni
    Photos from young Edward Snowden’s brief modeling career
    Trying to Make Sense of Hannah Diamond and Post-Ringtone Music by VICE
    The Real Life Spy Behind Charlie And The Chocolate Factory
    Children of undercover Russian spy couple only learned their nationality on flight to Moscow
    Exclusive: Suspected Chinese spy targeted California politicians

    Artwork:

    Sean Connery playing James Bond in From Russia With Love

    Recorded on 8/16/2024

    1 hr 27 min
  • Ep. 37: Male Desire w/ Charles Livingston [TEASER]

    Full episode available on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/SilentGeneration 

     

    This week the boys are joined by local filmmaker Charles Livingston to discuss male desire. They begin by first discussing straight male desire (the derision of the male gaze, male jealousy and possessiveness, and gender performance) before going into a deep exploration of Nathan’s thesis that yearning is the most universal and inexorable difficulty experienced by gay men. Amongst other things they discuss how the Ancient Romans conflated sexual conquest with imperial conquest, how Cleopatra in Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra weaponized mens’ desire, and how straight men and gay men seem to equally match each other in terms of desire.  

     

    Links:

    Charles Livingston’s Instagram

    Wings by Charles Livingston

    Oscars 2018: Facts and figures about the members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Orange County Register 

    The VICE Guide to Being Gay

    Armond and Mark scene from the White Lotus

     

    Artwork: Germanic Warrior with Helmet, Osmar Schindler, 1902

     

    Recorded on 8/11/2024

    5 min
  • Ep. 36: Antiques w/ Kamara

    On this week’s (sans Joseph) episode of Silent Generation, Nathan is joined by his friend Kamara to discuss antiques. They talk about how they first got into antiques, the best antiques that they own, and the defining characteristics of several antique furniture styles (Victorian, Arts & Crafts Movement, Art Nouveau, Art Deco, and Mid-century Modern). Amongst other things they discuss how Victorian antiques and houses are construed as being haunted, how antiques seem to be most popular in rural areas, and how the antiques industry acts as a point of intergenerational exchange between different generations of gay men. 

     

    Links:

    Antiques Pinterest Board (Nathan’s antiques are at the bottom)

    A Lamp & Fixture Corp 

    Tighlman Chicago 

    Justanswer Antiques

    The Blue Fairy Book edited by Andrew Lang 

    Campbell House Museum

    The Slav Epic by Alphonse Mucha

    THREATENED: Hector Guimard’s Art Nouveau Metra Entrance

    Restor-A-Finish Youtube demo

    The Roger Brown Study Collection

     

    Artwork:

    Art Deco Cubist Armchair in Vermilion Mohair Velvet and Maple, Belgium, 1920s


    Recorded on 8/4/2024

    1 hr 31 min

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