Recorded the day after the Sensory Intelligence Summit wrapped, a few hours before Josh's red-eye back to New York, and he spends most of it in a pedicure chair. Sisters Maria and Elizabeth Oloyede run Born to Splay, the only barefoot shoe store in Arizona, alongside their Ethereal foot care and skin studios in Old Town Scottsdale. The conversation covers how they fit people into barefoot shoes without rushing the transition, why a medical pedicure is done dry, and what to ask any salon before it touches your feet.
The marquee moment is Josh opening the kimono on his own feet: every toe broken at least once, a corn he tried to handle himself, and bunions from years of basketball shoes a size too small. What it opens onto is Maria's rule for the whole building, no toefanity, and the idea that foot care has to go along with footwear.
5 Key Takeaways
Foot care has to go along with footwear. Maria's point is that the barefoot community puts real work into foot strength and mobility and then forgets the skin. Skin's first job is protection, and it can only do that job when it's intact.
Don't rush into barefoot shoes. They feel great on day one, which is exactly why people overdo it. The store guides first-timers toward transition-friendly options, and a trainer on their own camera crew learned the hard way that fit athletes still have untrained feet.
Toes are acquaintances, not twins. Each one has its own job, which is why the sisters push toe socks and toe spacers, and why they check that a barefoot shoe isn't still too snug for the toes to spread.
Ask where the autoclave is. Their standard is heat-and-pressure sterilization, with a sterilization pouch whose indicator changes color after processing. If a salon can't answer, Maria suggests asking what product they use to disinfect tools and looking it up yourself.
Stop talking badly about your feet. No toefanity is the house rule. The feet are carrying you everywhere, and Elizabeth closes on the line that ties the whole visit together: self-care is wellness, and wellness is self-care.
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Timestamps
00:00 Walking into the only barefoot shoe store in Arizona
01:00 Meeting at a summit booth and noticing the Vivobarefoot on the wall
01:30 A fit session that ends with a functional podiatrist's review
03:30 Barefoot shoes only work if people will actually wear them
05:00 Why first-timers don't start in the most minimal shoe
06:00 Toes are acquaintances, not twins
07:30 Why a medical pedicure is done dry
09:00 Autoclaves, single-use tools, and a place you'd bring your grandmother
10:00 Opening the kimono on a corn I tried to handle myself
11:30 Foot care has to go along with footwear
13:00 No toefanity
15:30 Why a barefoot educator stopped getting pedicures in New York
16:30 Every toe broken at least once
18:00 How to tell whether the tools were sterilized
26:00 The retainer argument for toe spacers every day
27:00 The double bunion surgery that didn't happen
30:30 Questions to ask any salon before they touch your feet
34:00 From cracked heels to podology school
36:00 Why the sisters say faith is what lets them work together
37:30 Running LA to Vegas in barefoot shoes
40:30 "Is that the guy on TV?"
47:30 Why 40 percent of their clients are now men
50:30 Toe socks, merino wool, and repurposed socks
52:00 Ten years, three buildings on 67th Place
54:00 Elizabeth on the skin barrier as the foundation
57:30 Self-care is wellness, and wellness is self-care
59:00 Thank you to Dr. Emily Splichal
Resources Mentioned
Born to Splay (barefoot shoe store and signature fit sessions, Scottsdale AZ) — https://borntosplay.com — Instagram @borntosplay
Ethereal Medi-Pedi & Handcare (Maria's dry medical pedicures) — https://medi-pedi.etherealwe.com — Instagram @etherealmedipedi
Ethereal Wellness & Esthetics (Elizabeth's skin care studio) — https://etherealwe.com — Instagram @etherealwellnessandesthetics
Dr. Emily Splichal (functional podiatrist, Born to Splay's clinical partner) — https://dremilysplichal.com
Naboso (Neuro Ball, sensory insoles, Splay toe spacers; host of the Sensory Intelligence Summit) — https://www.naboso.com
Vivobarefoot — https://www.vivobarefoot.com
Xero Shoes — https://xeroshoes.com
Lems — https://www.lemsshoes.com
Be Lenka — https://www.belenka.com
Koel — https://koel.shoes
Bridge Soles by P.R. Gear (transition insoles) — https://prgear.com/products/bridgesoles
Creepers (merino toe socks) — https://www.creeperssocks.com
Podoexpert (the hydrating foot foam Maria uses) — https://www.podoexpert.com/us-en
The North American School of Podology (where Maria trained) — https://northamericanschoolofpodology.com
The Speed Project (LA to Las Vegas relay Josh ran with a Vivobarefoot team) — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Speed_Project
This episode is for educational purposes and is not medical advice. Talk to a qualified provider before changing anything about your health routine.
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