In one of his first interviews since joining Six Nations Rugby, chief executive Tom Harrison joins Sam Carp and Steve McCaskill on this week's episode for an in-depth conversation at a pivotal moment for rugby union.

With this season's Six Nations underway, Harrison assesses the health of the competition, discusses whether the tournament going behind a paywall was ever a genuine possibility, and explains why in-game ads have been introduced for the first time.

There's also time to look ahead to the inaugural edition of the new Nations Championship and explore the challenges of calendar reform, while Harrison also offers his view on what rugby needs to do to stay relevant and predicts what the sport could look like in ten years.

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