This week on Soccerish, Christine and Lori unpack the season’s most explosive penalty moment Thomas Muller's overtime goal for the Vancouver Whitecaps —was it actually clear and obvious or just really, really unlucky for St Louis City? We dive into the referee world, where one decision can trigger a cascade of group texts, Monday-morning blowups, and reassessments that make you second-guess everything.

Then there's 40,000+ fans cramming into Oracle Park for Bay FC vs. Washington Spirit—proof the NWSL isn’t just growing, it's booming.

And finally: Jill Loyden joins the mic. Yes, the former USWNT keeper and founder of The Keeper Institute, but also one of the sharpest analysts in the booth—heard everywhere from ESPN and CBS to ION and NWSL. She’s here to dismantle how goalkeeping is actually being taught—science-backed, coach-first, and built to make every kid think, “Yeah, I want to be that last line.”

Refereeing chaos. Stadium-shaking crowds. A kicker (in the literal and metaphorical sense). That’s your episode.

⏱️ Time-Coded Highlights

00:00 – Welcome back: Christina vs. Lori on a controversial Vancouver penalty call 🎥

00:54 – Oracle Park packs 40,000 fans for Bay FC vs. Washington Spirit ⚽🔥

02:40 – Women’s sports boom: rugby shout-out & Christina’s unlucky sports weekend

04:30 – The penalty breakdown: was it clear & obvious or just “unfortunate”? 🤔

06:10 – Lori: “It doesn’t look like a penalty to me” → Christina confirms no-penalty

08:15 – VAR debate: who initiated contact and was the defender allowed that space?

12:20 – Christina on “robot referees” vs. refs who feel the game 🧠

14:02 – Inside the referee world: one mistake sets off a storm of texts & calls 📱

16:30 – Education over punishment: how refs review clips every Monday/Wednesday

19:20 – Why NWSL & USL refs need full-time status (and still aren’t paid like it)

20:25 – Jill Loyden joins: from USWNT keeper to world domination at TKI 🧤

24:00 – Jill’s path: small-town NJ → Hope Solo’s teammate → coach & founder

27:10 – Building The Keeper Institute: from South Jersey to a national brand 🌍

29:45 – The evolution of goalkeeping: shot-stopper era is over, playmakers rise

32:10 – Why England is ahead in keeper development & what the U.S. must fix

33:45 – Jill on training coaches, not just kids: a science-based “coaching college”

37:50 – Success markers: curiosity, bravery, and goalies who want to learn more

40:17 – “Rising tide lifts all ships” – how better coaching raises everyone’s level

42:09 – Who played in every U.S. pro league? Lori reveals the short list 📜

43:30 – Heather Mitts vs. Marta: Christina’s unforgettable yellow-card story 😅

45:01 – Jill’s big picture: building coaches early to change U.S. goalkeeping

46:37 – Would you toss the penalty cheat-sheet water bottle into the stands? 💦

48:09 – Jill: “I don’t care about winning anymore, only development”

49:15 – Farewell to Jill: “One of the best humans in the game” ❤️

50:30 – Christina on goalkeeper initiatives & corporate partners fueling change

51:56 – Looking ahead: Labor Day matches, CBS game, and the grind of ticket sales

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