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May 08, 2020Episode 232: Amazon’s doing OK
AWS and Azure announce earnings, Backblaze takes on Amazon, Cloud Native Survey Results and Fortnite takes our suggestions. Plus, Matt updates us on his quest to turn a smartphone into a webcam.
The Rundown
Tech Giant Earnings
AWS tops $10 billion in quarterly revenue for the first time
Microsoft Azure update
The Immunity of the Tech Giant
The Small-Business Die-Off Is Here
Backblaze challenges AWS by making its cloud storage S3 compatible
The State of Cloud Native Development: A new survey report! - Cloud Native Computing Foundation
Salesforce will help businesses return to work with a new set of tools it just announced
Fortnite's no-combat mode is its next bold step towards creating a metaverse
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M&A
DocuSign acquires Seal Software for $188M to enhance its AI chops
Hot On The Heels Of Mellanox, Nvidia Snaps Up Cumulus Networks
Intel's Mobileye targets urban mobility growth with Moovit deal
Keybase joins Zoom
Announcements
IBM Cloud Satellite
Abby Kearns takes over as Puppet CTO
Microsoft to establish first datacenter region in New Zealand
SaltStack Security
Critical Salt Vulnerability: Thousands Exposed, Bug Gives Full RCE as Root
Hackers are Running Rampant Exploiting the SaltStack Vulnerability
Departures
VMware Confirms Employee Salary Freeze, CEO Pay Cut
A Message from Co-Founder and CEO Brian Chesky
Tim Bray, Goodbye
Nutanix cuts 1,500
Google
Google Cloud training available at no cost for 30 days
Google Authenticator’s first Android update in years lets you move your account between devices
Google tells employees they can't expense food or other perks when working from home
Google unifies all of its messaging and communication apps into a single team
Nonsense
Fortnite hosted a Diplo concert in its new party mode
About Those Asian Giant Hornets...
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Chef Tools & Terraform: Better Together from Matt Ray
Michael Coté - Intro - Spring Live
FlylessConf May 27
ChefConf 2020 June 2, 2020 All Digital.
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Brandon: American Factory on Netflix
Matt Ray: Small Victories: The True Story Of Faith No More
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1 hr 2 min
May 01, 2020Episode 231: Now Oracle has their Spotify
Google (maybe) acquiring D2IQ, Zoom picks Oracle, Chef’s latest release and more Fortnite discussion. Plus, Matt Ray updates us on his quest to turn an old camera into a Webcam.
The Rundown
Google Negotiating to Buy Enterprise Cloud Software Company D2iQ
Ubuntu
Mark Shuttleworth on Ubuntu popularity and Canonical profitability
Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Focal Fossa Released | ServeTheHome
Chef Updates Tool for Managing IT Infrastructure as Code
Zoom
Zoom CFO explains how the company is grappling with increased demand
Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft
Why Zoom Chose Oracle Cloud Over AWS and Maybe You Should Too - Last Week in AWS
Digitial Ocean: It's all about the bandwidth
Zoom’s Biggest Rivals Are Coming for It
Google Meet video conferencing is now free for anybody
Fortnite
Travis Scott Fortnite Twitter Thread
Fortnite Stats
Rapid7 is acquiring DivvyCloud for $145M to beef up cloud security
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Deploy Cloud Foundry to Google Kubernetes in 10 minutes
Red Hat Expands OpenShift to Ease Developer Use
Cote.pizza
Google is shutting down Shoelace, the social app you’ve probably never heard of
Why we can’t build
It’s Time To Learn
Amazon Scooped Up Data From Its Own Sellers to Launch Competing Products’
How the Department of Defense Moved to Kubernetes and Istio - Nicolas Chaillan
AT&T CEO retiring as telco plans for three years of cost cuts and layoffs
Apple and Google update joint coronavirus tracing tech to improve user privacy and developer flexibility
Nonsense
What if you could control Kubernetes with Excel?
Room Rater (@ratemyskyperoom) | Twitter
All-day happy hour? Americans drinking while working at home in pandemic, surveys say
Microservices Video — why we can’t add the users birthday to the profile
Old french safe
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Chef Tools & Terraform: Better Together from Matt Ray
Michael Coté - Intro - Spring Live
ChefConf 2020 June 2, 2020 All Digital.
MongoDB’s virtual event http://MongoDB.Live on June 9-10, 2020
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Brandon: Sony X950G
Matt Ray: Privacy Redirect
Auto Close Zoom Tab
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1 hr 3 min
April 24, 2020Episode 230: Who is Travis Scott?
On this week’s episode: Andreessen says it’s time build, Verizon buys Bluejeans, Splunk maybe watching and Google is giving Istio to a foundation. Plus, we offer informed opinions on Travis Scott and Fortnite.
The Rundown
Hot Take — IT'S TIME TO BUILD - Andreessen Horowitz
Conferencing
Verizon will buy video conferencing company BlueJeans
The Zoom fatigue is real
Google Meet launches improved Zoom-like tiled layout, low-light mode and more
Introducing Splunk Remote Work Insights: Our Solution for the New Work-from-Home Reality
Apollo readies IPO of cloud company Rackspace
Alibaba Cloud will invest $28 billion more into its infrastructure over the next three years
Zhao KaiXian x86 CPU Tested: The Rise of China's Chips
AWS announces new single-purpose on-prem hardware and tie-in storage tier
AWS launches Amazon AppFlow, its new SaaS integration service
Google Cloud CEO: Istio is going to a foundation
Google Cloud’s fully managed Anthos is now generally available for AWS
Over the past 20 years, IBM has bought back $140 billion of its stock. Its current market cap: $105 billion. $IBM
Apple will reportedly use 12-core 5nm ARM processor in a 2021 Mac
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University of Sydney using cloud to prevent the Tasmanian devil from extinction
Facebook employees won't return to offices until at least the end of May, and is cancelling events until June 2021
Hundreds of asylum seekers' names made public in government data breach
Top virtual tech conferences to attend in 2020
Who Makes the Best CPUs? Intel vs. AMD CPUs | Tom's Hardware
Bezos Takes Back the Wheel at Amazon
Confluent lands another big round with $250M Series E on $4.5B valuation
I Took a COBOL Course and It Wasn't The Worst | Hacker Noon
Nonsense
Emacs way to listen podcasts
How to watch Travis Scott’s Fortnite concerts
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Chef Tools & Terraform: Better Together from Matt Ray
Michael Coté - Intro - Spring Live
ChefConf 2020 June 2, 2020 All Digital.
MongoDB’s virtual event http://MongoDB.Live on June 9-10, 2020
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Recommendations
Brandon: HBO’s Westworld
Matt Ray: Yeti cups/mugs
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1 hr 5 min
April 17, 2020Episode 229: Does it work with JSON? That’s what I do
On this episode: Apple and Google team up, AWS Fargate has a new release, Github gives stuff away, Coder gets funding and Matt offers his advice to college students. Plus, the definitive iPhone SE review.
The Rundown
Contact Tracing
Apple, Google Will Require Case Verification for Coronavirus Contact Tracing Tech
How Google Plans to Push Its Coronavirus Tracing Feature to Android Phones
Apple and Google launch a joint contact-tracing system for iOS and Android
Answering the 12 biggest questions about Apple and Google’s new coronavirus tracking project
Fargate
AWS revamps Fargate serverless containers, but wait – where's Docker Engine? Ah, 'deemed unnecessary'
Under the hood: AWS Fargate data plane
Coding
Austin Startup Coder Gets $30M from GGV Capital and In-Q-Tel
GitHub is now free for teams
Pentagon Watchdog Clears Microsoft’s Cloud Win Over Amazon
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Google is rebranding Hangouts Chat as just Google Chat
Zoom is now 'the Facebook of video apps'
The Thing With Zoom
A perfect alternative to Zoom doesn't exist
IBM scrambles to find or train more COBOL programmers to help states
7 cobol examples with explanations.
No new emojis in 2021 because of coronavirus
Microsoft Teams has 20% adoption rate, says Slack CEO
How IBM’s New CEO Plans to Beat Microsoft, Amazon & Google in Cloud
Non Sense
Invite a Ilma or goat to your next corporate Zoom meeting or video call for under $100
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Conferences, Videos et. al.
Chef Tools & Terraform: Better Together from Matt Ray
Michael Coté - Intro - Spring Live
ChefConf 2020 June 2, 2020 All Digital.
MongoDB’s virtual event http://MongoDB.Live on June 9-10, 2020
DevOpsDays Minneapolis, August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration.
THAT Conference August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells®.
SDT news & hype
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Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
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Brandon: Facebook The Inside Story
Matt Ray: Iriun Webcam
QEMU Raspberry Pi postmortem
A New Statistic Reveals Why America’s COVID-19 Numbers Are Flat
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1 hr 1 min
April 14, 2020Episode 228: Professor Jeremy Hajek on IT Education
Brandon interviews Professor Jeremy Hajek from Illinois Tech about what it's like to teach Information Technology in today's rapidy changing IT landscape. Plus, we offer advice to new grads on how to get a job and what cloud certifications are most valuable.
Jermey's Links:
Twitter: @JeremyHajek
Illinois Tech Contact
Illinois Tech Admissions Information
Photo by Vasily Koloda on Unsplash
Special Guest: Jeremy Hajek.
1 hr 8 min
April 11, 2020Episode 227: The Hot Take Episode
This week we offer hot takes on a whole bunch of topics including: COBOL, Unikernels, AWS Bottlerocket, Zoom, Slack, Circle CI, Marketplaces and IBM.
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Unikernels are unfit for production
Knative Crowds out Other Serverless Software (and Other CNCF Survey Takeaways)
Bottlerocket: a special-purpose container operating system
Slack, Teams and Conferencing
Slack is working on integrating with rival Microsoft Teams for calls, says CEO Stewart Butterfield
DHH is not happy with Zoom
Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all
Microsoft’s Skype struggles have created a Zoom moment
Zoom responds with a Blog Post
Google Has Banned Zoom Software From Employees' Computers, Citing Security Vulnerabilities
Zoom isn’t Malware.
IBM
New IBM CEO Arvind Krishna says hybrid cloud will be bigger than mainframes, services, middleware
IBM Taps Former Bank of America CTO to Oversee Cloud Business
My first day as CEO - our journey together
RHEL pusher Paul Cormier appointed CEO to lead Red Hat into the IBM era
Email to associates from Red Hat president and CEO, Paul Cormier
CircleCI
CircleCI Raises $100M Series E
CircleCI raises $100 million for automated app testing and deployment
Apple
Apple acquires popular weather app Dark Sky and will shut down the Android version
Apple's SMS one-time passcode proposal moves forward with help from Google
Apple to Buy Virtual Reality Streaming Company NextVR for $100 Million
iOS 14: Keychain password manager to gain new 1Password-like features
The a16z Marketplace 100 - Andreessen Horowitz
Simplified global game management: Introducing Game Servers
Forrester’s Surprising Discovery About Robotic Process Automation
Next frontier in Microsoft, Google, Amazon cloud battle is over a world without code
Booz Allen analyzed 200+ Russian hacking operations to better understand their tactics
Update #2 on Microsoft cloud services continuity
The Next Chapter of Meetup
SoftBank May Not Buy $3 Billion in WeWork Shares
Portland technology companies lay off dozens amid coronavirus outbreak
OneWeb goes bankrupt, lays off staff, will sell satellite-broadband business
HashiCorp Joins the CNCF
Welcoming 3D Spatial Mapping Leader 6D.ai to Niantic: Accelerating Real-World AR Innovation - Niantic
MongoDB’s field-level encryption protects private data—even from DBAs
Medtronic Shares Ventilation Design Specifications to Accelerate Efforts to Increase Global Ventilator Production
Microsoft announces agreement to acquire Affirmed Networks to deliver new opportunities for a global 5G ecosystem
Founded by Ex-Googlers, Tailscale Launches to Secure and Simplify Remote Network Access With $3M
Kpt: Packaging up your Kubernetes configuration with git and YAML since 2014
Why Covid-19 has resulted in New Jersey desperately needing COBOL programmers
Don’t Mute, Get a Better Headset
Non Sense
Inside the Story of How H-E-B Planned for the Pandemic
Lobsters given seats on coronavirus rescue flights...
50,000 Microsoft employees are currently replying all to a company-wide email.
My boss turned herself into a potato on our Microsoft teams meeting
HP TouchPad History: A Fire Sale 49 Days After Release
Trump order encourages US to mine the moon
CNCF Puzzle
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Chef Tools & Terraform: Better Together from Matt Ray
Michael Coté - Intro - Spring Live
Mykel Alvis is speaking at All Day DevOps Virtual Conference on April 17, 2020
ChefConf 2020 June 2, 2020 All Digital.
MongoDB’s virtual event MongoDB.Live on June 9-10, 2020
DevOpsDays Minneapolis, August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration.
THAT Conference August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells®.
SDT news & hype
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Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: Ozark and Tiger King
Matt Ray:
The Memory Palace Music to Wash Hands By
Disunited Nations
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1 hr 7 min
April 03, 2020 Episode 226: Justin Garrison on Cloud Native Infrastructure
This week Coté interviews Justin Garrison coauthor of Cloud Native Infrastructure. They discuss all things "Cloud Native" and what it's like to be a software engineer who helps make movies.
Photo by David Brooke Martin on Unsplash
Special Guest: Justin Garrison .
43 min
March 27, 2020Episode 225: All my kids have opinions on Scratch
We discuss micoVMs vs. Containers and Intel vs. ARM. Plus, Matt offers advice on when to teach your children about Github. Big congrats to Coté and his wife on their new baby!!!
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Containers are Not the Future
Observations on ARM64 & AWS’s Amazon EC2 M6g Instances - Honeycomb
No more O’Reilly Conferences
Lightspeed-backed WorkOS launches to help startup services become enterprise-ready
The Demise Of Symantec
Ex-Uber engineer pleads guilty to trade secret theft from Google
Non Sense
These are the hotels and airlines offering elite status extensions for those impacted by coronavirus
Peak Cory Doctrow! Pluralistic: 24 Mar 2020
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Request Metrics from TrackJS Request Metrics is a web performance tool that records how fast your production Page and API endpoints are from your users' perspective.
Chef Tools & Terraform: Better Together from Matt Ray
ChefConf 2020 June 2, All Digital.
DevOpsDays Minneapolis, August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration.
THAT Conference August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells®.
SDT news & hype
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to [email protected] and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: The Rewatchables
Matt Ray: Generation Kill
Reggae: Toots & The Maytals, Jimmy Cliff
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1 hr
March 24, 2020Episode 224: Miles Matthias on getting started with Containers and Kubernetes
Brandon interviews Miles Matthias from Container Heroes and they discuss how to get started with Containers, Kubernetes, Envoy, Istio and Spinnaker. Plus, Miles tells us a story about Warren Buffet.
Links:
Container Hereos
@miles_matthias
Miles talk at Spinnaker Summit 2019
Photo by Sebastian Herrmann on Unsplash
Special Guest: Miles Matthias.
1 hr 5 min
March 19, 2020Episode 223: What’s a Terraform?
Coté finally learns what HashiCorp does. Also, yellow rubber gloves.
Mood Board:
Blur my foreground, that’s what I want.
No Yodas
Lot of rubber gloves in your youth?
I have never really enjoyed a Steven King book.
Maybe it’s for the Rip Van Winkle set
You watch Netflix, you should watch more Netflix.
I don’t need your recommendations, don’t tell me how to live my life.
It was like a bunch of Duplo blocks in a junior high theater class.
As someone said: teams is like a front-end to Sharepoint
The screenshot they showed was kind of like Teams.
Why can’t they make it 100% OK?
You’ve got a big TV, put me on it!
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Microsoft Teams vs. Zoom vs. Skype
Does anyone really know what the deal is with this JEDI thing? - The Pentagon says it 'wishes to reconsider' the award to Microsoft of the $10 billion JEDI cloud computing contract
HashiCorp - Vagrant sure is valuable!
HashiCorp Scores $175M Funding Round, $5B Valuation
Exclusive: DevOps unicorn HashiCorp could be valued at $5.25B in new round
Rancher - EDGE, BABY!
Rancher Labs Raises $40 Million Series D Round to Accelerate Growth of Its Kubernetes Management Platform
Platform9 Announces Freedom for Kubernetes Users with New, 'Freedom' and 'Growth' SaaS-Managed Kubernetes Plans
npm is joining GitHub - The GitHub Blog
Next Phase Montage
CNCF starts new artifact hub - “pre-alpha stadium.”
Using 6 Page and 2 Page Documents To Make Organizational Decisions
Book review: The Real Deal - technology deal making in the 2020's
Apple announces online-only WWDC 2020 due to coronavirus spread
Righting a Wrong: IBM is a Leader in the Cloud...
Trump Surprised Google With a Bogus Coronavirus Site Claim
Google: G Suite now has 2 billion users
Coronavirus quarantine enforced for all people entering Australia, lockdowns on the table
Coronavirus Will Change How We Shop, Travel and Work for Years
Microsoft Teams goes down just as Europe logs on to work remotely
NSW govt pledges to introduce mandatory data breach reporting
What’s in a Name? How Pivotal’s Products Are Being Renamed as Part of VMware Tanzu
Announcing OpenShift Serverless 1.5.0 Tech Preview - A sneak peek of our GA
Google indefinitely delays the digital version of its Cloud Next conference
Microsoft starts a grand unification attempt with .NET 5
Apple unveils new iPad Pro with LiDAR Scanner and trackpad support in iPadOS
Spectro Cloud Launches With $7.5 Million to Help Enterprises Realize the Promise of Kubernetes
Not just video-conferencing apps taking a dive: IBM Cloud hit by partial Tuesday outage
Ansible DevOps comes to the mainframe
Mainframe Developers Get Boost From BMC Acquisition Of Compuware
Non Sense
How Much Toilet Paper?! The Coronavirus Toilet Paper Calculator
You can now get alcohol delivered with your food when you order from Texas restaurants, Gov. Abbott says
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DevOpsDays Austin 2020 — Cancelled or Postponed.
ChefConf 2020 June 2, All Digital.
DevOpsDays Minneapolis, August 4 - 5, 2020 use code SDT for 10% off registration.
THAT Conference August 3 - 6 in Wisconsin Dells®.
SDT news & hype
Join us in Slack.
Send your postal address to [email protected] and we will send you free laptop stickers!
Follow us on Twitter, Instagram or LinkedIn
Listen to the Software Defined Interviews Podcast. Check out the back catalog.
Brandon built the Quick Concall iPhone App and he wants you to buy it for $0.99.
Use the code SDT to get $20 off Coté’s book, Digital WTF, so $5 total.
Recommendations
Brandon: Devs on FX/Hulu .
A mind-bending, reality-warping conversation with John Higgs
Matt Ray: KLF: Chaos Magic Music Money.
Tim Hartford’s Cautionary Tales podcast.
Coté: Look Up.
Outro: “They’ll work until the very last minute,” Dune.
1 hr 14 min

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