Steve discusses GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy's recent comments regarding Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and why either they're stupid or something more nefarious is afoot. Then, former Satanist John Ramirez joins the program to provide an inside look at what physical, real paganism looks like. In Hour Two, Theology Thursday reviews the penultimate chapter of Steve's book, "A Nefarious Plot." To wrap the show, Ana Hibbs steps in as the new host of three non-political questions.

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